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Topic: Aries.....perplexed
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BlueRoamer
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posted August 08, 2007 01:38 PM
  
I don't really understand the aries energy. It is rare that I have been able to connect with any aries, especially the males, they often seem very minimal on eye contact, and are usually aloof. I've never met one that is very forthcoming with their emotions, they usually have this "tough guy" exterior, even the women. They usually seem to have an agenda, and if you are not on their agenda, they basically ignore you completely. They seem very passionate and focused on their goals, but not very willing to take little detours or meander about. I don't really FEEL their energy, it feels closed off to me, like a part of them is hidden, or like they are never really "all" there with you.IP: Logged |
Dreamybecca
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posted August 08, 2007 01:48 PM
As a member of the Aries club, I have to tell you a little secret... we are shy, we can be very shy... or maybe it is all my Pisces influences 
No, seriously, I become very shy when I am with people I don't know or in an enviroment in which I don't feel comfortable and then, I cannot be really spontaneous, etc
One of the people that nowadays is one of my best friends thought I was snooty  because I looked kind of cold, distant, as if I didn't want to get involved with the rest of people, as if I felt superior... when she confessed me this, she also told me that later she realised it was just the opposite, that I was quite shy, that I felt "small" next to other people, that I never wanted to be the centre of attention... I guess that can make a people to look aloof, distant...IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted August 08, 2007 01:48 PM
Sounds like the Cardinal quality to me. We're all like that to a certain degree, though some of us may learn to connect a little better.IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer
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posted August 08, 2007 01:50 PM
I see these qualities a bit in capricorn, and maybe cancer, but less pronounced in libra. I don't have trouble connecting with caps or libras, cancers can be difficult.Capricorns and cancers definitely have "the wall." IP: Logged |
CrankyCap
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posted August 08, 2007 02:17 PM
This is interesting to me. I'm kind of surprised that out of all the signs you have the most difficulty feeling the Aries engergy. I LOVE Aries. I love all the fire signs actually. Some of my best friends have been Aries, one of which was the best friend I ever had. Although, I'm sure, like any of the signs too much Aries can't be good. She had her moments when she could be shy and reserved too, but I loved her for her warmth, passion, and dynamic nature. She was the girl that could get me to bungee jump, or clean out my closet! LOL...Out with the old, in with the new! A good lesson for us stuffy Caps that keep things until they grow cobwebs!I also seem to do well in my romantic relationships when there is at LEAST a little Arian energy in there somewhere. Two of my ex's had Venus in Aries, and they are the only two that I have remained friends with. My current boyfriend has Mercury in Aries and I LOVE it! My Saggie Mercury is so greatful for it! I can be myself, and be sarcastic, goofy, honest, and bold without him getting offended at anything. He just fires right back and we have a blast with our verbal banter. Don't give up yet, give a good Aries a chance. I find them to be energizing, exciting, loyal, and caring friends. IP: Logged |
miss_muffet
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posted August 08, 2007 03:43 PM
Read this... from Linda Goodman. It actually fits very well.
http://mizian.com.ne.kr/englishwiz/library/names/zodiac/aries.htm Edited to add:
Aries always tend to look tough on the outside... lots of confidence. They will only show their soft side and uncertainty to those closest to them. You will never see that side of them unless they trust you 100%. IP: Logged |
libraschoice7
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posted August 08, 2007 03:51 PM
I love Aries energy, it's about the only energy now a days I seem to understand, I've known many Aries and alot of times they will just do things without a second thought...they do things on impulse and go with their desires, it's awesome.... is there an Aries guy around?! ------------------
Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer I "FEEL" therefor I am IP: Logged |
Astra
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posted August 08, 2007 06:21 PM
Joke around with them a bit. Put them at ease. Show that you're not overly sensitive. They're very blunt people and hate the feeling of "walking on egg shells" when speaking to overly sensitive people who get offended by anything they say. They need to be themselves at all times, so all you have to do to gain their trust is be honest and let them be themselves around you.
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BlueRoamer
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posted August 08, 2007 08:15 PM
Everyone has very different experiences with different signs, as every chart is unique and every person is unique.This being said there are things in the chart that give us difficulty in understanding certain signs and energies. All my signs and houses pile up mostly in the the 9th-12th houses, so I have trouble understanding people early in the zodiac. I always connect more deeply with scorpios, capricorns, pisceans...I often feel with aries and gemini that theres not much "there" to connect with, that they are mostly in their world, it is about their perceptions, they haven't moved beyond the self yet. Not to insult anyone. I know aries and geminis that are good listeners and care very much, but I feel, spiritually, their journey is more about the self, and that is ok! I just ultimately find them a bit lacking. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted August 08, 2007 11:23 PM
The "hidden" aspect of Aries may be the darker feelings they'd rather not deal with. It's like Aries will confront everything...except that which makes them feel insecure. Those feelings they will keep from you, unless you've caught them in a rare place, which is sometimes induced by drug (such as alcohol).IP: Logged |
babeefoxx
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posted August 09, 2007 03:56 AM
I admit, I am pretty shy for an Aries.
I kind of have a nervous energy around people I first meet and i'm not that outgoing Aries stereotype...I'm not necessarily that sheep type that Linda explains in Sun Signs but somewhere in the middle. I guess you could say i'm in between.Of course I have a Cancer moon, and I can put up a wall at times. It is by no means my Libra rising. IP: Logged |
CrankyCap
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posted August 09, 2007 08:45 AM
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The "hidden" aspect of Aries may be the darker feelings they'd rather not deal with. It's like Aries will confront everything...except that which makes them feel insecure.
AG, I think you hit the nail right on the head with that. My Aries friend that I mentioned before is doing that very thing right now. We used to be so unbelievably close, but now when we talk it's very superficial. I just figured it was because we're in very different places in our lives now and had grown apart. We've been emailing over the last week though, and it turns out that she's been keeping me at a distance because I "know so much" about her past. Things that she likes to pretend never happened, and things that she's ashamed of. Talking to me, and being around me is apparently too much of a reminder. For most of us, I think we realize after a while that we all make mistakes, and the past is the past, but she made a decision (long story) that basically forces her to face her past every day. Although, moving to the other side of the country did help her some. Still, I have never judged her or even brought it up. It was her decision and her life, but for some reason she feels threatened if she opens up to me. I don't think she wants to admit to me that her life isn't as perfect as she makes it out to be, or how she wants others to see it. It makes me sad though, because I really do miss her. IP: Logged |
miss_muffet
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posted August 09, 2007 01:59 PM
Wow...Sorry to hear about your friend CrankyCap. quote:
I don't think she wants to admit to me that her life isn't as perfect as she makes it out to be, or how she wants others to see it.
That maybe so in your friend's case, but not all Aries are like that. I appear to not open up to others simply because:
1. There isn't anything to open up on - I live for the moment. When I am upset at that moment and you are there, you will hear it and I will open up. But an hour later, I am no longer upset and have totally forgotten what I was upset about.
2. I can be snobbish at times. If I don't feel that you are intellectually my equal or superior, I feel that we have nothing to talk about.
3. I hate talking about feelings, and can't stand people who loves to psycho-analyze "feelings". For right or for wrong, I tend to associate feelings with weakness. I don't cry easily for that one reason.
4. I really couldn't care less what others think of me. As long as I know my life is perfect, everyone else can think differently, doesn't bother me one bit. Just another point of view, Miss Muffet IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
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posted August 09, 2007 02:20 PM
The aries girls I know are very nice, approachable, and friendly. The guys......
I was gonna ask if maybe you have aries on the 8th or 12th house cusp but then I remember you have a Cap Asc like me. I can't think of what it could be.
I have an aries mars and I can be like that but only when I want something done and after its done I cringe at how I was acting earlier. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted August 09, 2007 02:31 PM
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3. I hate talking about feelings, and can't stand people who loves to psycho-analyze "feelings". For right or for wrong, I tend to associate feelings with weakness. I don't cry easily for that one reason.
That's pretty much making the point I was making, and the point CrankyCap was agreeing with. IP: Logged |
miss_muffet
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posted August 09, 2007 02:48 PM
Hi Dulce,Generally speaking, I do want to help others and I will do everything I can to help someone that approached me for assistance, as long as I don't feel like they are taking advantage of me. I guess the problem is that it is very hard for people to actually approach me because they are never sure where they stand with me, since I tend to look aloof and don't "open up". Another thing too is that I have very little patience (which is quite contradictory with Moon in Taurus) and can't stand people who keeps going round and round, talking about the same thing over and over... just feel like yelling "GET OVER IT, for heaven's sake". I guess this is not a "friendly" thing to do. But oh well... I have Scorpio Asc., Aries Sun on the 5th house. Miss Muffet IP: Logged |
miss_muffet
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posted August 09, 2007 02:58 PM
Hi AG, quote:
It's like Aries will confront everything...except that which makes them feel insecure.
It's true that Aries likes to confront everything but I have to disagree about the "insecure" part of that statement. The thing is, to me, feelings are not tangible. What is not tangible does not make me feel insecure but rather a "waste of time"...? I dunno. It's a waste of time because:
1. I can't control it.
2. I can't explain it.
3. It is not going to make me rich (now that is my Taurus moon speaking) I mean, what's the point in talking about something that you have absolutely no control over? It sort of goes with "I don't like crying over split milk." type scenario. But to each his own... as long as it makes you happy... whatever goes.
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babeefoxx
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posted August 09, 2007 03:09 PM
^^^ EXACTLY!IP: Logged |
CrankyCap
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posted August 09, 2007 03:40 PM
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3. I hate talking about feelings, and can't stand people who loves to psycho-analyze "feelings". For right or for wrong, I tend to associate feelings with weakness. I don't cry easily for that one reason.
miss muffet - I think that is one trait that Aries shares with Capricorn. Although, every Aries female friend I've had, have been highly emotional. I don't think they like talking about feelings, but it never did seem difficult for them to cry in front of others. I think your Taurus moon could come into play there if you have a problem showing tears. That seems common with earth moons. I think you were on to something earlier when you were talking about how they don't like dealing with feelings because they aren't tangible. Even though Aries is the sign of the "self" I don't think they have much ability to self-reflect. In other words, look back on their mistakes, accept them, change their behavior if need be, and move on. My Aries friend has changed her behavior, but she hasn't faced what she is ashamed of, so she has been unable to move on, and I have a feeling that it's eating at her. The past seems to be haunting her terribly, so she prefers to pretend that it never happened at all. She seems willing to sacrifice a great friendship for a superficial one because of it. Although I haven't given up on her. I've noticed this trait in my mom and my ex too. Both of them are Taurus suns/moons but they have sharp venus/mars conjunctions in Aries. My mom spoiled my sister rotten as a child, now she is an unruly teen. My mom CANNOT accept or even face that she has herself to blame, at least partially for my sister's behavior. My ex calls me every couple months when he is depressed, and the call is always the same. "I hate myself." He says this over and over and over because he's ashamed of the way he lives his life. He only acts on impulse, no matter who it hurts, because he never thinks about consequences until it's too late. Then he goes through these massive depressions. He's ashamed of himself, but it's too painful to face what he's done, so it's easier to act as if he's great and nothing bad ever happened. Similar to my Aries sun friend.
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BlueRoamer
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posted August 09, 2007 03:43 PM
1. There isn't anything to open up on - I live for the moment. When I am upset at that moment and you are there, you will hear it and I will open up. But an hour later, I am no longer upset and have totally forgotten what I was upset about.
2. I can be snobbish at times. If I don't feel that you are intellectually my equal or superior, I feel that we have nothing to talk about.
3. I hate talking about feelings, and can't stand people who loves to psycho-analyze "feelings". For right or for wrong, I tend to associate feelings with weakness. I don't cry easily for that one reason.
4. I really couldn't care less what others think of me. As long as I know my life is perfect, everyone else can think differently, doesn't bother me one bit. This is my exact situation with this aries.....I love to talk about feelings, thoughts, perceptions, my 12th house sun and scorpio moon make it a constant topic. I once brought this up to this aries, and she/he clearly did not want to talk about her/his feelings. Also, most people are not her/his intellectual equal, this person is by far one of the most brilliant people I have ever met.....I feel like there's no way I could say anything that would interest her/him. Ugh, basically I should give up on forming a friendship with this person. I have other friends who are aries, who are more in touch with their feelings, are very psychological..I definitely get the impression that this person feels I am not really of interest, which is VERY rare for me, and kind of shocking to my ego. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted August 09, 2007 04:02 PM
Fire and water signs are known for their emotional natures, and I've never known an Aries not to talk about what they're p!ssed off about. Anger is an emotion.I think Aries love Aquarians, but I don't think Aries are the coldly logical type overall themselves. IP: Logged |
CrankyCap
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posted August 09, 2007 04:05 PM
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Another thing too is that I have very little patience (which is quite contradictory with Moon in Taurus) and can't stand people who keeps going round and round, talking about the same thing over and over... just feel like yelling "GET OVER IT, for heaven's sake". I guess this is not a "friendly" thing to do. But oh well...
By the way Miss Muffet...that sounds EXACTLY like my mom. Sometimes it's hard for her, having two Water Sun babies and one with a Water moon. "Get Over It!" Is one of her famous expressions. LOL... But, I know she means well, it's just her way. My Aries friend that I've talked about has a water grand trine, including mars in Pisces. She was very compassionate and sympathetic. She never understood my interest in astrology though...not "tangible." IP: Logged |
miss_muffet
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posted August 09, 2007 04:07 PM
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I've never known an Aries not to talk about what they're ****** off about. Anger is an emotion.
LOL... yup. But only for a few seconds. Anger comes and goes just as quickly. It's the intangibles! Miss Muffet IP: Logged |
miss_muffet
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posted August 09, 2007 04:09 PM
Weird... I just typed a long response to CrankyCap and BlueRoamer and it never registered.Oh well... I will retype when I get back but I gotta run somewhere for 2 hours now and I am late....
Yikes. GTG. TTFN.
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CoralFrequency
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posted August 09, 2007 06:06 PM
I do appear angry and disinterested at times.. but not really for the reasons mentioned so far.These are my reasons.. 1. I'm having a bad day and I am genuinely ticked off at something or someone. It may even be something that happened a week ago, that I just remembered for some reason (I might've bumped into the person for instance) 2. It's my natural facial expression. I don't know how else to look when it's the way I feel most comfortable. If you saw me walking around my own house, I'd 9/10 have the exact same facial expression and body language. 3. I have an issue with a particular person or situation that I feel threatened by or that someone around me is threatened by. This can be anything from a nasty teacher to someone who is behaving in an obnoxious way or hurting people, to someone throwing things around at the cinema etc.. Basically anything at all that I would see as inappropriate behaviour (Cap moon?)- could put me in attack mode. I have nothing against analyzing feelings or talking about feelings with anyone as long the conversation is real and has depth.. not a superficial conversation about the ex someone dated for a week who turned out to have a gf. Give me a break on those things.. That being said, feelings are a major part of my life.. maybe this is the Pisces in me and Neptune aspects. I do care a lot about people and I express affection.. but again my affection is very genuine and completely unbiased.. This is why I often have issues with people who are judgmental, even when it's on something as 'typical' as gender issues.. because I feel too genuinely for the people in my life to look at them as a penis on a stick or a certain nationality/race etc Miss_Muffet, quote:
I really couldn't care less what others think of me. As long as I know my life is perfect, everyone else can think differently, doesn't bother me one bit.
I pretty much feel this way also.
Cranky, what you were saying about her not wanting to admit her life isn't perfect. In my opinion (but I don't know her) this doesn't have much to do with other people at all. She wants to be happy for herself and move forward. As Miss_Muffet said, she probably genuinely sees her life as perfect. That's just how she feels about it. So if you see it otherwise, that's your take on it. We should all be happy and see our lives as perfect (regardless of the bad..) - The bad will always be there - it's only natural.. but why not enjoy your life and choose to see it in a positive way? I have only cut people out because I felt they were living in yesterday and did not understand my current personality. I like to keep moving in life. Other fire signs understand this perfectly. This is not because the past makes me sad, nor is it because I'm hiding from it. It's simply because life moves on.. I don't believe in living in the past. There's no room for change or growth there. Someone said on another thread that Sags tend to leave old friends and find new ones throughout their life. Aries comes close to this. There are a handful of people who I could be friends with for a life time, but they are very few.. Other than them I like meeting new ppl and I don't hang on to old ones.. mainly old ones who I feel are stagnating or not moving forward in their lives in any way.. because this is a dampener to me. It drags me back.. when I'm trying to run in the opposite direction.. and Aries doesn't usually like rocks tied to their ankles.. so they'll get rid of the rocks if they feel slowed down..
I see you're interpreting this as *fear*.. It isn't fear at all. They just don't care about the past. It doesn't matter to them. It's over. The present is *here*.. or anyways, that's the way I feel about it.
Capricorn is VERY different to this (probably why you are misinterpreting) Having a Capricorn moon I have my past spells every so often.. but the Aries side is all about moving forward. IP: Logged | |
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