posted August 17, 2007 02:47 PM            

Rising signs is the mask you wear; the supposable front you provide to people. So even though its what people see, its what people precieve you are .

Example:

I am a Leo rising. What's the first impression people get of me? Overconfident, Self-absorbed, and wayyy too expressive Lol!

I tend to see my rising sign as a shield; It naturally removes all the short sighted people away and allows those who want to look beyond the cover to come in the inner circle of Xie's friendship Lol!

posted August 17, 2007 02:53 PM            

With a Leo rising and the Sun in Libra, nice combo.

I'd get down with ya!

posted August 17, 2007 02:56 PM            

But remember, just as the Sun stays in the same sign for 30 days out of a year (and doesnt return for the rest of the year), each sign passes over the Ascendant in every 24 hour period - so, a person is born every single day (or night) with a Capricorn Ascendant, whereas, there are only 30 days out of the whole year in which a person is born with the Sun in that sign. Which is more common may be worked out by the mathematicians out there, but it would appear that the chances of having your Sun or Ascendant in Capricorn, respectively, are equal at approximately 12 to 1.

What a smart astrologer does is consider the combination of Sun, Moon, and Ascendant as a whole. The number of people sharing your Sun, Moon, and Ascendant combination is much smaller than the number of people sharing any of them separately. Simplifying any more than this only makes possible very general statements about a person. And its important to remember that anything we can say about a single placement (be it Sun, Moon, Ascendant, Part of Spirit, or whatever) is only a starting point in the greater process of chart interpretation.

posted August 17, 2007 03:04 PM            

Alanabelle:

Lol! The feeling's mutual babe .

Patrick:

posted August 17, 2007 03:09 PM            

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The Ascendant is much more than a "mask". I know this is the popular conception of what an Ascendant is, but many distinguished astrologers take exception to this so-called rule. The Ascendant is a complex part of your chart, largely determining your life path. It is how you approach the world.. and there is a lot of significance in that.

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Yes but IMO its still a shield; a protection of sorts to help a person get ahead in his/her selective field of opportunities and situations. However, it still fails to cover a person's inner principals and reasons as to what they want to accoplish.

posted August 17, 2007 03:09 PM            

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HSC hit the ball right out of the park.

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Thanks, Xodian.

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...it also comes down to dominant elements in a person's chart as well as aspects; i.e. Those with a huge amount of fire placements in their charts are naturally more individual minded and self-oriented then those who may happen to have water element as the dominating factor in their chart.

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Good point.

And the same may be said of the Modes (cardinal, fixed, and mutable).

posted August 17, 2007 03:14 PM            

But I'm reminded of what the great poets have said...

That philosophy and poetry are not distinct,
and how you say something is not to be divested
from what you are trying to say.

So, the tactics are not entirely distinct from the goal,
and the means are not entirely distinct from the ends.

How you fight says a lot about what you are fighting for.

If that makes sense.

posted August 17, 2007 03:15 PM            

In this regard, it is more personal and more powerful than the sun sign, when you take just that into consideration.

I once described it as our "skin" protecting all of our vital organs buried deep within (Sun, Moon, Mercury, etc.) The skin being the most obvious organ, the largest and most conspicuous, also what we've come to define ourselves through (race, skin color), thus the AC can be argued to be the most important aspect of the chart. (aspects included). Hell, ALL of the angles are.

If the chart represents our inner energies, battles, and potential...the Angles are like our hands. How we touch, experience, sense, perceive, and choose to share and express those inner qualities to the outside world.

However, don't demote the Sun sign in importance either. Like the heart in which it rules, it's function is vitally (no pun intented) important to human psychology development (in an astrological sense). The ego, the conscious, the vitality, the will and motivation. How we identify with our purpose and how we choose to express our most creative potential...

Doesn't sound like it wants to take a backseat to me!

posted August 17, 2007 03:18 PM            

Yes but notice that its still dictates your choice of front you use to confront life. However it doesn't show WHY you choose to use that front or what is your accomplishing goal in the end.

I tend to use one of my most fav. mythological characters as an example. I know that everyone has heard of Achillies and the tragedy that befell that Hero. All his life he was confronted with violence and death so he ends up becomming a great warrior to help him fulfill his goals. However, ironically, if you read the Illiad, you'll notice that he is so sick and tired of War and Violence and the stupidity of soldiers who follow orders and die on command for incompetent kings.

Yes he was Vengeful and arrogant but he wasn't a heartless killer .

posted August 17, 2007 03:19 PM            

Have you read "The Rising Sign" by Jeanne Avery?

posted August 17, 2007 03:26 PM            

Thaaaaaank you.