posted August 27, 2007 05:25 PM            

For example:

My Saturn squares her Mars... Yeah, its one of those "Gonna get on each other nerves to the point of destruciton" kinda aspect Lol!

To quote thinkastro.com: "It is impossible for such a union to happen but, if it does, it will be unbearable."

Oh yeah... them are fighthing words thinkastro Lol!

Yet at the same time in the same chart mind you, my Satrun conjucts her Sun. Supposably that means that this is gonna be one hell of a secure relationship.

posted August 27, 2007 05:32 PM            

Having said that, all aspects are *just* influences and each individual in a relationship will choose how, when and even if they will reflect or use those influences.

If you see a lot of secure aspects in a chart then that creates a binding feeling between two people which at first can seem nice and secure but later can maybe feel stifling. So sometimes having contradictory aspects (like ones that are binding versus ones that are Uranus-inspired, therefore more indicative of independence and less security) can help to make a relationship exciting but still stable.

posted August 28, 2007 11:50 AM            

That being true, however the only problem is the re-occuring theme in our chart is the same all over again; Its the two extremes of every relationship. The chart indicated that we supposably are in love to the point of being obessed with each other. (Well... A good thing in most cases ) but on the other hand the same chart also indicates in abundance that we are so gonna tear each other apart piece by piece.

posted August 28, 2007 02:19 PM            

I was re-watching The Matrix Reloaded lastnight (again) and my favourite line from it is when Neo is sitting with The Oracle in the courtyard before hundreds of Mr. Smiths show up. And he's asking her about fate and if she knows what his next choice will be. He's frustrated because if she does know, then it takes away the element of choice completely and it's all just an illusion.

So she says something like "you already chose it, now you have to try to understand WHY you chose it."

posted August 28, 2007 03:15 PM            

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posted August 28, 2007 09:06 PM            

Well looking at the brighter side of things (the Libra way Angry Lovemaking FTW! Lol! Oh the passion! ... what a way to go LOL!

Love:

Right on . You know the more I listen to people's EXTREMELY biased replies on this matter the more it becomes apparent to me that they really can't say anything constructive (negitive aspects included mind you) on this relationship. Why? Because its something people just aren't accustomed to. Me and my love are aggressively charged individuals who really understand each other to the point that we know that we can only co-exist if we gave each other the room we need to grow and prosper. Ain't that what relationships are all about? I am seriously tired of hearing things from her girlfriend and from my friends that "Oh X there is gonna flutter away if you do not do something to tie the guy down." or "You should really define where you are in the relationship right now." No! I do not wanna confine us to stupid pre-defined notions of love and partnership. You can't seal free-spirits with definations. So it sucks to be them.

Sorry about that rant Lol!

Teaologist:

Actually there is 2 years difference between us (she is 21, I am 23.) Hell she is the most mature 21 yr. old I have met in ages Lol! I was born in Sep. and she was born in November. So there is quite a bit of distance between our birthdates.

I am thinking meh... Compsites, Sysnasty, etc. are all programed under the pretence of relationships in the more... "traditional" sense. Don't know how it would work for the custom made senerios Lol!

posted August 28, 2007 11:07 PM              

Example: Girls Saturn squaring Boys mars.

The girl could be a "wet blanket "( Saturn) on the boys sense of "initiative" (mars) and that could cause friction between the both of them.
then you could use this information as a piece of a bigger puzzle that might accurately describe both the good AND the bad parts of the relationship.

Say if boys jupiter also trined girls sun then it would be easier for him to gloss over or forgive her for the irritiation of the saturn mars square..the irritation might never go away..but the boys sence of peace and forgiveness (jupiter) would always be in harmony with the girls sense of self ( Sun) and would help drastically in smoothing over the problems.

I think if you apply the appropriate planetary symbolism (even in a general way)to
the people involved in the comparison, it would be fairly simple to see the ins and outs of a certain relationship.

And if your looking for a "good fit" or easy relationship, find someone you have a lot of trines or conjuctions with ..if you want conflict, then bring on the squares and oppositions.

Of course no relationship is perfect, but I bet the smoother ones are very "triny"

But that's just my opinion.

posted August 28, 2007 11:12 PM            

But then again, one can question this since the very notion of trying to make connections could very well end up in making connections to aspects that really don't have anything in common with each other in the first place.

One would ultimately see a mirage if he/she wanted water so badly.

posted August 28, 2007 11:42 PM              

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But then again, one can question this since the very notion of trying to make connections could very well end up in making connections to aspects that really don't have anything in common with each other in the first place.

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I think this is a bogus statement
Here's why. If you already , in real life, have a relationship with someone, then you have astrological connections with them also. The theory here is, that the astrological connections would define or at least fall in the parameters of the already exisiting relationship..i.e. If you "really don't have anything in common" with the person, the reason could be, that all of the important parts of each others psyche are in conflict with one another(as in person A's planets "in conflict" with person B's planets)

Aspects don't relate to each other.
Planets relate to each other by "forming" aspects...
If you use the appropriate symbolism to interpret the aspects formed between 2 individuals charts, you should, theoretically , start to see an accurate picture of the dynamics of that relationship..as they really are (including all of the possible areas of deception or delusion on both sides of the relationship)

If your truly in tune with your destiny, then you could/would make the appropriate choices of partners at the appropriate times ( without the help of astrology)

posted August 28, 2007 11:55 PM            

Dynamics of a relationship go well beyond personality base and attraction factor. There is always a self-fulfillment factor. People usually here refer to it as a Karmic bond. I personally call it a personality puzzle piece; Something that one partner lacks that he/she makes up for it through the contibution of another. Planets? Well they can only define a personality ever so much. There is environmental factors, the human psyce, etc.

So I rather not just limit myself to astrology . Personal view anyway.

posted August 28, 2007 11:57 PM            

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Oh yeah... them are fighthing words thinkastro Lol!

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Lmao dont buy into that stuff. I learned that nothing is ever that fatalistic and i totally despise astrologers who make it so. Its unecessary and in their profession they should know better than to say anything is THAT bad...there are worse things...like Mars/PLuto opposition...it doesnt matter overall. Its in your own hands, its job is to tell you that is in fact one of the harder aspects but certainly it isnt win all/loose all kinda thing.

posted August 29, 2007 12:43 AM            

It's obvious to me that's there's nothing unusual about your relationship. Straight boy. Straight girl. Monogamous relationship. Pretty standard stuff really. You keep talking about bucking the system without realizing that every couple sets their own rules. There's nothing new about that.

posted August 29, 2007 12:45 AM            

But yes I do agree BUD when you say it really is in our hands. I don't think fate is about one choice or another but a whole intriquite web of choices, each with one begining but multiple ends and any of those ends do not have to follow a pre-defined path but a path of your own making. People could argue that a circumstance made a person choose one thing. Well my argument to that is, why is it that there is just one pre-defined choice to that circumstance? Tragedy wouldn't have happened if one person chose another one didn't they?

Hence you end up with a fork in a road which some would say that the choice is directed upon to take one route but I say its more of a test of our character by a divine power to make one choice over another.

posted August 29, 2007 12:54 AM            

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When I look at your age, though, and her age especially, I think I know where you're coming from. Not all young women have realistic ideas about love and partnership. When they come from money it's even worse, because they have certain "expectations," (based on a certain degree of having been spoiled) that might not be all that grounded in reason. Is this an accurate representation of what's going on?

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Lol! Ummm, now see you really went offcourse a lot (too bad though; You were steering somewhere close before ). Now what if I were to tell you that the so called "spoiled" notion would be totally false since us brothers insisted upon NO (I repeat NO financial help) from parents. What ever we earned, we earned on our own (well... not true; We all had to take the so called jump start; A small load of cash for the essentials for the first couple of years.)

However, seeing how we have all finally gotten grounded financially (on our own mind you ) dis it asking too much to actually go after what one wants rather then settling for half-good?

No... Not gonna happen. Its either all (for a perminent relationship) or no perminent relationship. Meh, maybe the outlook may change over the years (very not likely) but I do want to point this out; What ever I have right now, its only because I motivated myself to get it and I ain't stopping now; I still got my youth and a whole lotta ladders to climb .

posted August 29, 2007 01:03 AM            

Save the drama for a Soap Opera; God seriously you seem so objective the first time I met you. Now... Not even gonna comment.

Yes... strengths and weaknesses. Uh but one cannot have the same strength and same weakness in the SAME category.

E.g.

One can either have good communication or bad communication. Or one can have good communication in one area of a relationship and bad communication in another area. One cannot have both in the same area.

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actually using your intuition.

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posted August 29, 2007 01:28 AM            

Yes Acoustic, you're right on track actually. And is it so bad that I want those aspects in a relationship? Do they have be so, "disney" defined? I mean realsitically, a gal needs her space. She had dreams wayyy before Mr. Right supposably walks in her life and if Mr. Right is as reasonable but at the same time as changed about about his life as she is, then he would understand that she needs her room to be an individual.

Same applies to the gal's prespective as well. You can bet that the guy is gonna be there to back you up and support you when you need him, but why do you want to cling to him? Why can't you let him grow and prosper the same way he wants you to?

posted August 29, 2007 01:48 AM              

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Yes... strengths and weaknesses. Uh but one cannot have the same strength and same weakness in the SAME category.

E.g.

One can either have good communication or bad communication. Or one can have good communication in one area of a relationship and bad communication in another area. One cannot have both in the same area.

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What?!!!!

Could I not try to communicate successfully ( in the best way I know how) to you...
and you not understand it? ( perhaps my mercury is in conflict with your moon?)

But , inversely, you can communicate with me, and I TOTALLY get where your coming from? ( perhaps your mercury is trining my moon?)

Does this make ANY sense to you?

posted August 29, 2007 02:08 AM            

However, looking upon the example I gave (and the description that followed,) it still doesn't makes sense when you take into account the fact that the sysnasty is claming that there is such a strong connection there but chances are there (ie. Satrun conj. Sun) but there isn't a strong connection there (i.e. Satrun Square Mars.)

Mars govns. actions doesn't it? Well, pride aside for the moment, one would still know if there is enough resentment in a relationship to work or not work.

And its the same repeat though; There is a strong communication aspect bewteen you both. You understand eachother perfectly. Then it goes on and says that there ISN'T a strong communication aspect between you both. Huh?! Lol!