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Topic: sun/moon midpoint conjunction in synastry
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Alia
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From: az
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 28, 2007 05:55 AM
  
hello... do you think having sun/moon midpoint conjunct to someone s sun/moon midpoint is a relevant element in synastry?what kind of energy is going to trigger? thank you  IP: Logged |
OzMeg222
Newflake Posts: 0
From: victoria, australia
Registered: Aug 2009
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posted August 28, 2007 06:09 AM
I asked this same question a while ago but nobody really had any answers. I hope we get some more now!The only man I've truly loved and I both have pisces suns and leo moons which weren't conjunct, but our sun/moon midpoints were. I always thought that was interesting. IP: Logged |
Alia
Knowflake Posts: 477
From: az
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 28, 2007 06:19 AM
hi...yeah lets hope someone will answer !
in cafe astrology. com is considered a + 4 [strongest aspects in synastry] but doesnt really explain how or the meaning of it...IP: Logged |
jupitersgirl
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Registered: Oct 2009
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posted August 28, 2007 06:29 AM
I've asked this too and somebody had said that it would make a very strong aspect if one of your planets (yours or your partner's) make an aspect to that midpoint conjunction.IP: Logged |
pearlized
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posted August 28, 2007 02:31 PM
I agree with Jupitersgirl, it has to make an aspect with a planet to cause energy.IP: Logged |
cristiname
Knowflake Posts: 66
From: Earth. Welcome!
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 29, 2007 04:38 AM
Midpoints don't have energy - they are calculated points. so they cannot aspect each-other. A planet/energy must activate the midpoint to get any effect at all. what that means is that the planet aspects both planets, and gets a cumulated effect. If you and ur bf have Sun and Moon in the same sign, it means you are alike. that can be great, if say... you have tau moons (you both need emotional security and enjoy comfort and food. or, it can be difficult - if, say...you both have leo moons - you'll be like two kids fighting for attention all the time - with no-one left to 'give' it. same works for having suns in the same sign; depending on the nature of the sign and... everything else  IP: Logged |
jane
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Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 29, 2007 04:49 AM
cristiname - Do you use composites? I've been wondering if it makes sense to interpret aspects in composites in the same way we interpret them in other charts, since a composite is a midpoint chart. My theory is that midpoints can interact, but to do so require the "loud" aspects...conjunction, square, & opposition.
But I'm curious if you've thought about this about composites. Since midpoints are receptive, how do you approach a composite which is nothing but a collection of receptive points?IP: Logged |
cristiname
Knowflake Posts: 66
From: Earth. Welcome!
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 29, 2007 05:39 AM
I've been observing transits to my cmposite chart to my bf. So far (one year) they've had no effect. the 'relationship' doesn't seem to respond. but that's not what you asked I played with the astro.com composite interpretations - and they do accurately describe my rel with diff ppl. in my life. eg: my man and I have a 7th house Sun- Venus; work coleague and I have a 10th Sun, 11th Venus (friends); a friend I talk philosophy with - a 9th Sun (and so on). - the Sun=the purpose of rel is easier. other planets, not so easy.(12th moon, venus should be repressed feelings for eachother.) so composites do seem to reflect the relationship, as far as planets in houses are concerned. now that I think about it... maybe only personal planets should matter - dunno. tension aspects should reflect tension within the rel. but in which way to interpret them - that's hard to say (I find it hard to re-define things so that they define an abstract i.e. the relationship.) I also can't figure out yet how signs reflect the rel. I can't see the leo in the moon in my rel. how does a rel have 'needs'? oh... not to mention that there r two kinds of composites. they both seem valid in a way- not sure which way that is IP: Logged |
Bucketrider
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posted August 29, 2007 03:05 PM
Midpoint composites are just the midpoints between two charts. They are often similar to the davison charts and inasmuch as they are similar, they tend to have elements of truth to them but their house systems make no sense theoretically or practically. The midpoint between two ASC signs is meaningless. It is a calculated point based on a calculated point. The house systems and sign assignments are often opposite that of the davison so they share a polarity. Midpoints require planets to trigger. Midpoints dont trigger each other. Tight conjunctions and oppositions may be significant, everything else is not. Unless the same planets are in aspect in the davison. In which case, its really the davison that is suggesting that relationship, not the midpoint compsosite.
After checking dozens of composites and davisons, I have come to the conclusion that the davison is the "real" story. I wrote a longer thread on this and I think astro.com is doing everyone a disservice by making the free stock partner interpretations, many people's first introduction to astrology, an inaccurate one. That said, tight hard transits, most notably conjunctions, effect both charts. The effect of a transit on a composite is not the same as a transit to a natal chart. A relationship is more abstract than a person and is effected more abstractly. In the end, synastry, and the natal transits to each partner will have more of an impact on any given relationship than transits to the composite. A transit to a person's venus, like an opp by saturn while in a relationship will have more of an impact on what happened in the relatinship during that period than a transit to the composite. IP: Logged |
Alia
Knowflake Posts: 477
From: az
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 29, 2007 04:29 PM
hi Bucketrider.. so do you think the Davison is way more significant than the composite?what about transits on the Davison?
less,more or equally indicative in comparison to synastry? thank you IP: Logged |
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