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Venus De Milo
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posted September 08, 2007 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone experienced this?

What is it like? Were you bored? Was it blissful? Did you live happily ever after?

I'm doing a synastry analysis for a friend and I can't find one planetary square or opposition! The conjunctions are all positive too. His planets make no aspects to her angles, but I'm unsure of his birthtime, so maybe there is something going on there.

They have Venus/Moon double whammy trines, and Mars conjunct Venus and some nice Jupiter and North Node aspects (his Jupiter and Neptune conjunct her North Node).

Feed back on this topic would be greatly appreciated! I want to know if anyone has had something like this before.

What do you think?

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darkdreamer
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posted September 09, 2007 06:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Venus De Milo,

I don`t really know what I think.
I have never come across a synastry with no challenging aspects.

What orb do you use?

Are there quinkunxes? They could point to areas where they have to adapt to each other.

Are there only a few connections? (AGain, it depends on the orb you use of course).

Can it be, that important planets are not "hit" by the partner?
Imo it could mean that someone loves and likes certain traits of a personality, but somehow doesn`t register other areas of that personality.


You asked if I was bored with such a synastry, and I have to say, yes, I certainly would be bored. But then again, I have Moon quinkunx Saturn, Venus square Pluto / MC, Mars square Jupiter, Mars conjunct Neptune, Mars conjunct Ascendant, Jupiter square Neptune and ASC, Neptune conjunct ASC and Pluto conjunct MC, so I guess I need some tension in a synastry, because it is familiar energy from my own chart. Even without the square and conjunctions-aspects, there is a built in tension in my chart, because my Venus in Capricorn and my chartruler in Pisces are so different from my planets in Sagittarius and Aquarius.

I think I`d look to the individual charts, too. Are those very harmonious charts?
Well, it can be that there are no challenges in the natals, then I think, they would like the softer synastry, too.
But what if there are challenges (regarding signs, houses, aspects) in the natal chart?
Then I think they`d need some challenging in the synastry-chart, too.
Besides I have found that it`s mostly the challenging and polar aspects that make two people notice each other.
In your example there`s a Mars-Venus-conjunction, so I think this may have led them to notice each other.
I don`t think I would notice someone, or would feel touched, who has ONLY trnes and sextiles to my planets. I would probably think he is nice or okay, but nothing more than that.

But then again, it really depends on the individuals. A relationship with trines and sextiles can be rather harmonious, calm, peaceful and serene, I guess. But I don`t think there would be that much passion.
However, of course a Mars-Venus-conjunction changes that picture a bit. Also, if there are polar aspects in the individual charts like Sun-Venus and Sun-Mars, those may add some necessary spice.

But I think in such a relationship the real problems would arise, if transiting planets made hard squares to the planets. Those could easily break the relationship up, because the involved people wouldn`t be used to handle this square-energy, I guess.

Only my thoughts, of course, and I could be way off.

DD

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Venus De Milo
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posted September 16, 2007 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Dark Dreamer!

The only "challenging" aspects that they have is his Pluto conjunct her Moon and then again, his Moon depending on the birth time, is either opposing this conjunction or conjunct her Venus. I have no idea what his birth time is though. They have no Saturn, unless her Saturn is aspecting his angles.

Natally, she has Venus opposing her Moon and Venus opposed Pluto... and Saturn squaring Venus. He has A LOT of squares natally... holy crap, I can't see very many trines or sextiles at all. It's like... 60% squares 30% conjunctions and the other 10% is a trine or two.... poor guy! That must be tough. Maybe he craves harmony in his life because he has so much internal conflict?

I try to use quite strict orbs, almost always. So most things are 0 - 1, but sometimes I might toy with things that are 2 - 3 degrees out. 5 degrees for conjunctions. But you and I have discussed orbs and I'm not sure what to think when I felt so strongly that guy's mars conjunct my sun and his Mars is at 11 of Aquarius and my Sun is at 5 of Aqua! I would have thought that was out of orb But I feel it, I really feel it! So I don't know what to think about orbs, lol. I'm confused there.

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darkdreamer
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posted September 16, 2007 11:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus de Milo,

strange. How can it be that both have challenging natal aspects, but no synastric challenges?

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That must be tough. Maybe he craves harmony in his life because he has so much internal conflict?

That may be. But on the other hand, he`s used to these internal struggles. Doesn`t he get bored in an only soft relationship?
Even though I wouldn`t call a Venus-Mars-conjunction and MOon-Pluto-conjunction really a soft one. Maybe that is enough to provide some tension and passion.


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I try to use quite strict orbs, almost always. So most things are 0 - 1, but sometimes I might toy with things that are 2 - 3 degrees out. 5 degrees for conjunctions.

I remember our talk, and I am confused myself. But still I think of it like that:
the close orbed aspects reflect the main dynamic of a synastry, but if you dismiss some wider aspects, you might miss to see the big picture.
I`d also look out for planetary geometry like Yod, T-square, Grand Trine and such.
And what about solstice points? Or parallels and contraparallels? Those can be interesting, too.

BTW when you use an orb of 1° and 5° for conjunctions, how many aspects do oyu find in the average synastry then?

DD

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Lucia23
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posted September 17, 2007 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you're unsure of his birthtime, you really can't do a useful synastry analysis.

Aspects, signs and planets ultimately indicate the kind of energy that comes up between two people. Only the houses truly reveal how that will play out in their lives and which areas it will touch.

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miss_muffet
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posted September 17, 2007 11:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have never really seen a synastry without any negative aspects... however small and insignificant.

MM

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