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Topic: The Progressed Ascendant
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Heart--Shaped Cross unregistered
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posted September 20, 2007 03:05 PM
There is surprisingly little information about this on the internet. I would think that when the Progressed Ascendant changes sign it would be a very big deal, as this appears to happen very infrequently. If anyone could share some links or articles about this, or personal stories of when your own Progressed Ascendant changed sign, that would be appreciated. I've read that there is such a thing as a Progressed Ascendant (or Chart) Ruler, so, I would imagine that the planet ruling the Progressed Ascendant, including its placement and aspects, would also figure prominently in any interpretation of this. My own Progressed Ascendant is at 29' Aquarius, and I'm very curious to learn about the significance of the coming transition into Pisces. thanx IP: Logged |
tuxedo meow Knowflake Posts: 1109 From: Third Coast Registered: Aug 2009
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posted September 20, 2007 07:33 PM
In my astrodienst progressed chart my ASC is now in Libra from LEO and my Sun in Taurus from Pisces, Venus from Aquarius to Taurus. Mars from Pisces to Aries-A lot of Taurus in my chart. However i had found some articles on the internet just cannot remember where. When I do I'll add onIP: Logged |
Seeing Stars 7.21 Knowflake Posts: 194 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 21, 2007 03:07 AM
I have a question what exactly is the significance of the progressed chart anyway? I thought I was going to be a Cancer my whole life? but the progressed says Im going to be a leo? is that right? at some point we will be a different sign with different placements? am I understanding this correctly ??? I like my chart the way it is! IP: Logged |
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posted September 21, 2007 06:26 AM
Its a progression, not a replacement. For example, the Cancer sign points, when progressed into Leo, start getting over their terminal shyness and begin to shine more confidently. They are still Cancerian at the core, they just adapt to the next energy. In my experience the progressed ascendant is not a big deal. It can just represent a minor change of image and a need to change the way you look (e.g. starting a new job, you have to get your first tie). The progressed Sun and Moon are the main deal. IP: Logged |
MysticMelody Knowflake Posts: 1066 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 21, 2007 10:31 PM
Nice explanation, dj, makes sense. Now I am interesting in knowing more. When does the Sun and Moon "progress"? IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross unregistered
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posted September 22, 2007 03:23 PM
Melody, the Sun and Moon progress always, just as they transit always. One year of life is equal to one day of progressions. So, if you were born on the 22nd of October, and are now 6 years of age, the progressed planets would be where they were transiting on October 28th, six years ago.I wrote to astrologer Celeste Teal, and this is what she had to say (reprinted with permission): "Well, hmm, maybe this could be an idea for an article. It is rather a very important factor in doing readings or interpretations. During the time frame of a particular progressed Ascendant, an individual is attracted to the kinds of things associated with the sign - for instance with Aquarius rising, the person is more outgoing than when the P Asc. was in Capricorn, and they join clubs, etc., love their freedom, and so on. The actual change from Cap to Aq would see the biggest difference - they might become restless, rebellious, make unusual friends, etc. Each sign has its three decans as well, so as the P Asc. moves from one to the next, there are slight changes to account for the new decan. Going from Aq to Pisces, which is the sign of escapism, ruled by Neptune, there is usually a desire to take up some activity that allows an escape and this is often through art, music or some creative outlet. The intuition may become more pronounced. And so on. There are actually many associations that go along with each sign rising and with all the signs there are some less appealing traits and handicaps to be sensitive to (for instance with Pisces - possibility of increased sensitivity to drugs, alcohol and medications). The way to judge whether a person is going to experience the positive or the challenging characteristics and tendencies of a sign is to take into account the condition of the planet ruling the P Asc. The aspects this planet is involved in at any one time tells much about how life is going, how the person is doing and the kinds of experiences he is meeting up with. Where the ruler goes, you go. The planet ruling the decan of the P Asc. is also important. For you right now, it would be Uranus and Venus. Soon it will be Neptune. This is why it's a big deal, because when your Asc changes, your planetary ruler changes also and the condition of that new ruler is all-important. Also, aspects directly to the P Asc. are very important. You can also use the old rulers to further define and assess the situation - Jupiter for Pisces, Saturn for Aquarius and so forth." http://www.moonvalleyastrologer.com/ IP: Logged |
MysticMelody Knowflake Posts: 1066 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 22, 2007 05:41 PM
Thanks S! I think I get it now... I can take my age and add it to date/day of the month I was born, and then do a "natal" report to look at where my planets have progressed to? Although there are probably progressed charts on Astro. So, hmmm... the moon must progress quickly... and how are you figuring your AC? Won't it change/progress multiple times throughout the day? Oops, but you said it happens infrequently. Interesting. ****************************
Found it Have I told you lately how excellent, awesome and amazing you are? But, hey, I'm a SCORPIO Venus now so I should be smoldering instead of flirty... hmmmm... I'll have to practice that... I have a Taurus moon too. What do you want to know about Pisces AC, seems I'm an expert now.
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MysticMelody Knowflake Posts: 1066 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 22, 2007 06:11 PM
Wait, I'm a big liar. Looks like I am still an Aqua AC. It looked like Pisces on the natal/progression chart but the Progression only chart says Aqua. Thanks again, this is fun and interesting!IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross unregistered
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posted September 22, 2007 07:01 PM
Thanks! You're awesome, too!!! Hey, you've got some planets aspecting your Progressed Ascendant! That means you will probably be meeting people who correspond to the energies signified by those planets. Mars conjunct Venus and Neptune Square Looks like: Venus just happened, Mars is due any minute, and Neptune will happen in a year or two. How sure are you about your birth time? http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/002901.html
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MysticMelody Knowflake Posts: 1066 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 22, 2007 07:40 PM
Mom had my birth-time written down and she has a Virgo moon so it should be at least somewhat accurate, although she was not aware of the importance of the exact minute. Where is Mars? No sign of him anywhere or maybe things have been set into motion by some actions I have taken. I have read a few boards, and maybe I read a response from someone I hadn't read a response from before and that means I "met" them? Sounds like a reach. hehe Seriously though... do you mean Venus over the last few days or you actually mean today? And by any minute, did you really mean any "minute"? So, if I was hiding in my house at the computer, I missed my transits until Neptune comes in 2 years? WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ! Fiddlestix
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alanabelle86 Knowflake Posts: 88 From: somewhere over the rainbow Registered: May 2009
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posted September 22, 2007 07:53 PM
My AC just progressed from Sagittarius to 0' Capricorn.------------------ Sagittarius AC, Sun in Scorpio, Moon in Leo IP: Logged |
appleberry Moderator Posts: 2987 From: Venusian Registered: Jun 2011
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posted November 01, 2011 05:35 AM
My Progressed Ascendant entered Scorpio (from Natal Libra)in the beginning of November 2010... just when a newer intense relationship started hitting the rocks. I have yet to let go of this relationship even though it has been pretty much off for almost a year now.I have read about others finding they become a little obsessed with relationships with this happening. This is happening to me. I never stop thinking about this relationship and wanting it back. He too has had some difficulties but only when he sees me. He continues to say how perfect I am for him, and how we never had any problems (our only being that we have never been able to conquer long distance), that no one has been as good for him as me. As well with this Ascendant change I wonder how much I will change. My natal Libra was already Pluto conjunct, so I think I already had a lot of Scorpio influence in me... I guess it will be stronger now in the first decanate of Scorpio? IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 13559 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 01, 2011 11:20 AM
Mine is due to change within a year, along with progressed sun, to sadge/gemini.solar arc ascendant moved signs several years back. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 12797 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted February 15, 2020 10:43 PM
OMG yes there is so little information on this is incredible.Mine entered aquarius this year and it feels like been reborn so yes it feels like a big deal, your attitude changes, your values change (what is important to you and interests you), how you interact with others...I feel more open to socializing and group dynamics now and less interested in romance and relationships and more interested in friendship and just enjoying my own company, I need more space than before to spend time with myself, the idea of doing things alone is something I need and welcome more. IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 12730 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted February 16, 2020 10:13 AM
Heart--Shaped Cross!! Eloquent person. I had some great interactions with him at LL. Had an image of him as a dignified Noble Knight in Armor. I must have known him in that capacity in other lifetime? He is missed. IP: Logged |
vansio Knowflake Posts: 801 From: ICQ# = discord# Registered: Dec 2017
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posted February 16, 2020 11:56 AM
I’m looking forward to my progressed chart rising change. I’ll be a Leo rising, with Sun conjunct Venus for almost a decade portion of my life. hope it is a blessing, the very least a relief? Am born Cancer Rising, with Capricorn Moon in 8th (not bad but highly sensitive)The progressed Ascendant changes to Leo in 2025. That year progressed Sun-Moon-MC are conjunct from 9th, (new moon, new start) with VenusRx moving toward in sign from the 10th. progressed Sun-Venus conjunction starts 2028–2041 (overlay will conjunct my natal Venus) I figure this progression is a testament to my investment in the arts... I don’t expect it to be life changing but aligned. Odd to look forward to something fairly imaginative in my forties. Better yet, mindset-wise, I assure myself 20-30s should NOT be *the best years* of my life. Always esteemed to that—live in the moment but build in character for the future, either way, enjoy. In a few years, 2023, closing in with 0° conjunctions all at the same time, transiting Saturn will be conjunct my natal Sun (moments after my Saturn Return), tr. Pluto is conjunct my Moon, tr. Chiron/Jupiter conjunct my Venus, sooooo rough ride until then. Maybe my progressed grave is Leo Rising with Sun/Moon/Venus near the MC 😅✝️🆘😜 IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 4222 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted February 16, 2020 08:48 PM
Wth the exception of this statement ... quote: Originally posted by dj: Its a progression, not a replacement.
... virtually all the commentary on this page is misleading or outright false. That is because astrologers have been using mistaken or misleading notions of 'progression' for a long time. The secondary progressions that show the Asc, MC, house cusps slowly inching an average of a degree per year through the signs does not occur in nature as progression is based on how the Earth rotates.. Like most astrologers I used the common method for years until it dawned on me that this moves Asc, MC, house cusps by a kind of direction, replacing how they actually progress with an arbitrarily slower movement. The Asc ALWAYS moves through the entire zodiac every 24 hours (about 361°). So in secondary progression it moves the same distance every year. ------------------ Soul Stars Astrology by The Declinations Guy Expert birth chart rectification IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 13559 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 19, 2020 07:32 PM
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