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BlueMeenee
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libraschoice7
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posted October 02, 2007 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Bluemeenee...just want to welcome you to the board(in Arizona too)!

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
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first thing from his list is apparent ..
transiting Uranus will be trining his ascendant ..
( applying by retrograde movement ..
( it's at 15 deg. pisces at the moment ..
so ditto for his Jupiter placement ..

and t.Uranus would be squaring his natal Saturn ..

t.Pluto would be trining his natal Venus
probably has been doing so for quite a long time ( 2 years maybe on and off )
and t.Pluto has been squaring his natal Sun ..

various bits of astrology info ..
~ http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jkbx/audiofls.html ~

off topic .. but ..
~ http://www.gombergkites.com/plynn2.html#devil ~

ps .. maybe check out where lies his Chiron and Lillith placements .. and check transits to them ..

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Great Topic, BlueMeenie! I'd certainly like to learn more about that myself!

From one newbie to another...which site did you use to get ALL your planetary placements? I've used one that provided me with my natal chart but no blueprint as to how to read it!

Oh, and welcome!

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hi! i'm new here too..

don't feel bad. i've been studying astrology for like 8 years maybe an hour a week and i STILL feel like i hardly know enough to fit on the tip of the iceburg!!

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posted October 03, 2007 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Bluemeenee,

If his Midheaven/IC Axis is 19 degrees Leo/Aquarius, then this is suggesting that some kind of ego wipe-out for him. And I want to ask if there is a geographic relocation in the works for you or him or both of you?

Neptune is transiting the IC which is the 4th house cusp. The 4th house suggests the mother, the early home life and environment. His Uranus is also there tightly conjunct the IC. In the chart that also represents the mother. Is there constant relocation for him or you? Also, Uranus suggests rebellious energy and that is definitely being activated now with the transit of Neptune there. He's experiencing some kind of suppression and/or ego wipe-out.

I can't say much more without confirming that his MC/IC Axis crosses Leo/Aquarius 19 degrees. Please let me know and if you can, confirm any of the other information suggested by the chart.

One other thing, he also seems to be experiencing extreme pressures in terms of his father or other parent/authority figure.

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posted October 03, 2007 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey BlueMeenee, I am around the same area of the city, I almost moved to Dobson and Mesa...

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posted October 03, 2007 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Bluemeenee,

The way to find the Midheaven (MC) Axis is this: The line that splits the zodiac circle in half from top to bottom is the Midheaven or MC axis. From the top, it is the beginning of the 10th house representing the father.

From the bottom, it is the beginning of the 4th house representing the mother and early home life experience.

There is much more going on here than just his behavior, I could see YOUR relationship experiences with your spouse or former spouse just by looking at his chart, I haven't even taken a look at yours yet. I'd like to look at yours and then his and let you know what I the charts suggest in a little more detail, however, your son is definitely reacting to the separation and his behavior is one of the symptoms.

Neptune can represent suppression as well and your explaining that his father is ignoring him, treating him as if he's invisible (Neptune vanishes things as well), he's going to have a HUGE reaction to that. Any human being would.

When someone has Pluto square Sun already in their chart, they usually feel another kind of suppression. It usually expresses itself as a feeling of your life energy being blanketed, like a pall over a handgrenade. He may be experiencing that same feeling around his relationship with his father, especially because his Sun rules his 10th house (Midheaven) which is the father. Pluto is pressure, intense focus, magnification, destruction for renewal. When Pluto transits the Sun by square or opposition at anytime in a person's life, it is a huge and stressful event. It breaks down who you are then you are someone new when the process is over.

Unfortunately, I have to stop here to leave work, but I'll look at his chart again when I get home.

It's interesting, by experiment I figured out his birthtime as 10:05 just by your telling me his Ascendent, so I was 1 minute off. Well, I've adjusted it and I'll continue this either tonight or tomorrow, but I just want to say God bless you and your family at this most difficult time.

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posted October 03, 2007 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi BlueMeeNee,

I didn't forget about u, but I'll have to respond at some point tomorrow. I think I bit off more than I could chew 4 one day. Thanks 4 confirming so far. Have a good night.

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have just been looking at your sons' chart ..
without b.time as summer time is not mentioned .. and i never know without double checking when s.t. is active in the uk or usa .. secondly my astro programme works out the asc. and mc/ic differently .. and natal uranus sits either in 3rd or 4th house depending on house system used ..
Lillith sits in his 4th house here ( on this comp. programme ) .. and Transiting Saturn has been opposing his natal Lillith

anyhow just want to clear something up ..

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**The most striking being his Pluto squaring his Sun.**
not nataly .. but by *transit* ..
so Pluto would have aslo squared your natal Saturn .. ( given that they are both at the same position within a degree)

be back later once i've figured the time differences ..

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posted October 05, 2007 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi BlueMeeNee,

It's so funny you responded now, I was just looking at his chart, so now I can adjust it again. I also wanted to ask if you are 100% sure that his brother was born only 1 minute before. That is rare for twins, usually there is at least 5 to 10 minutes or more difference which is what mainly shows the differences in personality and experience when reading charts for twins. Unless they were born by C-Section which is definitely a possibility. Would you let me know if you can? I'll be ready with some insight soon for both of you.

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posted October 05, 2007 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi BlueMeeNee,

I'd like to begin by saying that I don't think he will always be a mystery to you. When I look at your chart, the first thing that pops up is the suggestion that you have been experiencing confusion and loss over the last few years, probably since 2003, maybe even some illness or addiction issues. Addiction is not always drugs, it can be food and other type things. It looks like the focus could be on career, your father; romance, children; I suspect that the things I'm seeing is the disolving of your marriage. There may have been some deception involved.

The suggestion of confusion around your children or this son is very strong right now due to transiting Neptune sitting on your Mercury in Aquarius. Mercury co-rules your 5th house of children and that suggests the very question you began with, which was focused on not understanding your son's behavior. Neptune is confusion, fog, toxins, gases, suppression, deception, porous, murky.

Neptune may be the reason why I feel so confused about writing this with some semblence of clarity.

To continue, this loss that I was talking about for you isn't just loss, it's incredible hard work, possibly around education and/or long distance travel. Ahh, legal issues is what I'm thinking with child custody and all that, only you can clarify this but those are some of the issues that the hard work is around also.

Never the less, it appears that you have been in the tall grass about a great many things over the last few years.

As far as your son in concerned, you are represented by the planet Uranus in his chart. Uranus rules the 4th house and it sits right there on the 4th cusp. Uranus is intensity, freedom and rebellion. It can also be modernism, genius, electricity and insanity. Only you and he can confirm this but is it possible that he is experiencing you and his home life as unstable right now. At the tender age of 6, that is an awful lot of freedom and it is being triggered by Neptune. His homelife is confused and most importantly THINGS ARE NOT AS THEY APPEAR TO BE. You don't have to clarify any of this if you don't want, some of it may just be obvious because of the issues that pop up within marriage break ups when children are involved.

I can only suggest being as clear with him as possible, set clear boundaries with him and for him, structure is desperately needed for him right now and from what you explain about his relationship with his Dad, he may not be getting it with him.

I think I repeated a lot of what I already said, but mainly the charts are just reflecting the situation. It won't be like this forever and it appears that at some point within the next 4, 5, or 6 months, some type of arts will enter his life or he may have a little girlfriend (lol). Six years old is a little early, but he did just start 1st grade and some children do have a little crush.

Once again, clarify what you can, but if it is too personal, it's alright to just let it sit. God bless all of you and I hope you have a nice weekend.

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posted October 05, 2007 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi BlueMeeNee,

May I just say God Bless you and your family many times over and thank you for your clarification and disclosure. Your explaining about your older son's diagnosis actually clarified why your your younger son is being ignored by his father or why it feels that way. Your older son probably has special needs in reference to his cerebral palsy (correct me if I'm wrong) and Dad is worried about all kinds of things.

You and your family have definitely been through the mill over the last few years and it's no wonder that your son is reacting now.

And in the middle of all of this, dare I say Congratulations again on your new pregnancy. You can always worry about the negative but sometimes you need to take time out to say, "You know what? It is a blessing." That Neptune crossing your Mercury could simply be indicating your confusion due to the hormones and what happens frequently in the charts of children, early on it signifies experiences the parents are having..

I'm glad to hear that you take advantage of counseling, I don't know anyone who could go through what you've gone through over the last few years without having some kind of counseling and guidance.

Here in New York, I like to say, "You're nobody unless you have an analyst LOL!!" or some kind of psychological help. It's all the rage here in the city LOL!!

You really are dealing with soooo much. Every free second, I'd just do a tiny meditation or a prayer or a deep breath.

May God bless you yet again, and thanks for letting me learn through your experience, it is my honor.

Have a good weekend.

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