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Got Gemini?
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posted October 10, 2007 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know how to read charts yet. When I check cafeastrology, my natal chart score is like 1780 something. I dunno is that is good or bad.

I particularly want to know if I have a debilitated Venus.

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Got Gemini?
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posted October 10, 2007 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone?

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AcousticGod
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posted October 10, 2007 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Venus is unaspected, so it might have trouble connecting in with the rest of your chart. There are opposing theories as to whether a planet being unaspected is a detriment, or whether the unaspected planet garners more strength and focus since it is an oddball in your chart. You could do a search on unaspected planets. Include "LindaLand" in the search (at Google or a similar site), and you can find previous threads about it.

Unaspected Venus- Venus unaspected in a chart is very rare and those who have it are very passive, peaceful and lazy ones. Very few of them become famous or successful. Such people are loving and giving and often well-loved and pampered in childhood. But they should take care that the materialistic side of Venus does not preceed the love element of Venus. http://astrology.findyourfate.com/astrology-unaspectedplanets.htm

Or, to give an example of Venus: A couple of years ago a couple consulted me and asked for an astrological analysis of their relationship. They had been married almost thirty years, but the woman was in a kind of crisis. She didn't know if she loved her husband, or if she had ever loved him, and claimed she didn't really know what love actually was. Her husband didn't take this personally. His commentary was simple and honest, "We've gotten along very well together all these years, and I just know she loves me, and I love her. So something else must be going on, and that's why we're here." His wife, however, had gotten hold of the nagging thought that she didn't know what love was, and therefore also didn't know if she loved her husband.

Her Venus created no aspects whatsoever! After I had explained what an unaspected planet meant in general, and how an unaspected Venus works in particular, something finally clicked in her. She understood that the unfulfilled and searching feeling was inside herself and had nothing to do with her marriage. "If I look back at it that way," she said, "then we have in fact gotten along very well together all these years, and I wouldn't want to be without my husband." There was a moment of silence, and then she said, "Maybe that's what love is. Maybe I shouldn't be getting myself so worked up about it anymore, and accept that I can't catch or grasp it all." This is a nice example of how, with an unaspected planet, we can run the risk of misjudging a situation because with all that "searching" we begin to mull and fret. Just as often, though, all that searching has yet another result, namely the idea that we "aren't there yet," or can't do certain things. In the case of the unaspected Venus, this can express itself in a feeling that others don't think we're nice, or that we weren't cut out for love, or that we feel inferior because of our looks and/or emotions. In every instance this feeling does not corroborate the real situation or talents and capabilities. Once again though, the fact is that we don't see it at first. And even with an unaspected Venus, we can be very sweet, mediate very well, and have a finely tuned sense of harmony! Hidden in an unaspected planet like this is a great talent waiting to be discovered. http://www.angelfire.com/stars5/unaspectedplanets/

Here's a great and positive article about planets not making aspects: http://www.astromarkt.net/artabscence.htm

Unaspected Planets
Occasionally, you will see a planet that is not aspected by another planet. This means that the major aspects listed above (and planets not in a parallel/contra parallel relationship- a term having to do with their north-south latitude positioning, known as declination) are not aspected with another planet. It is almost as if that planet does not know how to relate in the world. A person with an Unaspected planet must learn to integrate the nature of that planet into their life. An example of an Unaspected Venus is a person who seems to have this magnetic charm and beauty, yet is oblivious to the reaction they receive from people who are attracted to them.
https://www.wstardesigns.com/Horoscopes/aspects.html

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted October 10, 2007 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ascendent Conjunct Mars - lots of energy and active.. maybe sports buff or military man

Moon conjunct Pluto - Emotionally intense and dominated by feelings.. transformed by relationships..

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AcousticGod
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posted October 10, 2007 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also (I thought about this at lunch) look into Least Aspected Planets. That might bring another world of information to guide you toward your answer.

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lalalinda
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posted October 10, 2007 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You do not have a debilitated Venus.
It is on an aneretic or "fated" degree.

you also have the Moon and Venus in mutual reception.

start your astro journey by looking them up
good luck

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Got Gemini?
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posted October 10, 2007 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks you all, I guess i'll check these out now. Thanks for taking time out to check it for me.

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amisha121877
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posted October 12, 2007 12:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Got Gemini? I agree with lala, look into your chart some more. it's the sesquiquadrate to neptune and the semisextile to mars that stood out to me, as far as venus contacts are concerned.

I think your venus brings an air of adventure and the sense that it's "ok" to pursue one's dreams no matter where you are or who you are with but you must also see and embrace the same for yourself. the messages you may receive are not a muddle of unclear information - you get methodical, step-by-step insight into the how, sometimes out of pity rather than love for others but you are also susceptible to unsavory characters since you seem to be able to pick up on "the best of" qualities about an individual but you must be careful that you aren't taken advantage of. this could cause issues to arise between yourself and who you let into your life. boundaries and conditions seem to crop up in your life from time to time but this is all par for the course. one of the points of an adventure is the ability to lay your restrictions down every now and then whether it’s a person, place or thing in order to get to the "heart" of the matter because having a fulfilling relationship is important to you - remember that you can have a fulfilling relationship with yourself as well, not just with someone else. In wanting a truly fulfilling relationship, you must recognize that your presence ignites inspiration and encouragement, it encourages adventure and supports the pursuit of one's dreams, the pursuit of happiness - this IS part of your life's journey. Absolutely be careful and stay true to your center.

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lalalinda
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posted October 12, 2007 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi amisha

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Got Gemini?
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posted October 12, 2007 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You guys are pretty much right on the nose in descrinbing my personality as relates to Venus. Wow, relationships play an important role in my life. I just ended a 4.5 year marriage because I idealized too much.

My Venus influence is very strong in that having a successful relationship is very important to me. At times in my past, I acted like a hopeless romantic.

I guess with my Libra moon and Venus in Cancer, it makes me want "true love" more than most I guess (not taking anything away from anyone else).

I really do appreciate you guys helping me out on this. I do not know how to read a chart very well. I'm picking up the basics as I go along.

And hey Amisha, how would you interpret the sesquiguadrate to neptune and the semisextile to mars? The rest of your reply is extremely accurate.

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posted October 12, 2007 10:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi got gemini,

i had never heard of an aneretic degree until now and couldn't find much on it, but i did find this article if you are curious. i am not sure how accurate it is, but i will be studying it myself since my venus is also aneretic!
http://www.astrologersapprentice.co.za/category/chart-interpretations/

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Azalaksh
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posted October 12, 2007 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's lots of info here at LL on the Anaretic Degree:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/004650.html

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heart cakes
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posted October 13, 2007 04:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks for that link! there is tons of info there. very intriguing little degree..

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted October 13, 2007 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Got Gemini?,

I learned that when someone has an un-aspected planet in their chart, it is called “Peregrine” which means pilgrim.

I also learned that a peregrine planet runs away with the chart, it is an ultra focus on the symbols of that planet. You already mentioned several keywords describing Venus and a Venus-Neptune connection. Idealism, a strong focus on relationships and romance. Neptune is also idealism and the you have a sesquiquadrate between those two planets, and that is a tense aspect. Idealism can be used as a defense mechanism, and could be why your marriage ended, which is what you have already disclosed.

The chart suggests that you are self-protecting, defensive. There’s also a possibility that you may have been pushed around by life circumstances, feeling victimized by life. Because Venus rules your 2nd house of self-worth and is located in the 11th house of love received, your Venus is working overtime in terms of how you feel within relationships, what you feel that you deserve within relationships and somehow it is related to your mother and competition between you and your mother. There is the suggestion that she competes with you and that she causes you to feel tremendously guilty, especially in terms of your value around relationship.

The chart also suggests that something is not as it appeared to me in your early home life or with your mother and it caused you to suppress yourself or your Dad or something secret concerning who you are. There is also the suggestion of great hidden anger around a matter that could be brutal concerning Dad and the anger may have surfaced around age 6 or 7.

I won’t go on because this is about Venus, but it all ties into your Venus running away with your chart because it has no anchor it is literally beaming out all over the place. That Venus is teaching you a lot. Venus and Neptune want me to ask if you are an artistic writer or singer of some sort?

Geocosmic Valentine

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Got Gemini?
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posted October 14, 2007 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello GC! Your accurate for the most part except the part about my mom. I never experienced what you described with my mother. My father did return and leave when I was 6 though, so you were right on the nose with that one.

And I do like to make music sometimes. I am a party DJ.

Wow, I guess I need to learn to control this venus in cancer of mine because I feel its prominence in my life.

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