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scorpluv
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posted October 15, 2007 04:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Guys,
It's been a really long time since I've posted last but I have some serious issues that have been popping up lately. Over the weekend I celebrated with a couple of girlfriends my friends birthday... To make a long story short, the birthday girl brought along some friends and I brought a friend of mine... Well, apparently my friend and her friends didn't exactly see eye to eye and got into a fist fight... The fight escalated so bad that we almost were arrested... Now, I have several people upset at me for bringing my friend, saying she was the one that started the fight... In actually it was not my friend but the other girls that started the whole thing.. My question is, dispite my best efforts my friend continues to think in an immature way, though she is 25 years old and my other friends are truly judgmental people that had less than savory things to say about my friend... Unfortunately I am stuck in the middle of these fiasco and none of it is my fault nor the birthday girls fault... but obviously everyone is upset at us... What should I do? My instinct is to cut everyone out but I've known them all for so long... Can anyone look at my chart to see if there are some changes up ahead as far as friendships go? Lately I've just had the feeling that all the people I considered friends aren't exactly what I thought they were... I NEED HELP!!!


Nov. 2, 1979
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MysticMelody
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posted October 15, 2007 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in Cancer
Fighting on the home front. The solution is to redirect that Mars energy in a productive fashion. Next time you hang out with whatever friend, plan an activity that uses some aggressive energy like hiking or biking or going to the gym. Or use the energy to get something done together. Along those lines.
I've been getting things done around the house that I have put off for a long time, and doing lots of cooking.

My thoughts on the subject anyway...

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lolamonroe
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posted October 15, 2007 05:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If everyone is over 18 then each is responsible for their own actions. I have friends for 10+ years and if they don't like each other, TOUGH. It's not my responsibilty to kiss their a$$, tell them to either respect each other or just don't bring them around...u can be friends with both, remember it's you life and it doesn't matter what other's opinions are, be firm..scorpios are usually the center of the friendship circle...whoever wants to stay as a close friend to you, should not hold you accountable for other's competitive attitudes..they'll get over it but make sure they understand the role they play in your life, not the other way around.

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Lola Monroe

"...the darkness is coming...do not weep as you have sown what you now shall reap..."

ASC - Virgo
Sun,Mercury,Venus: Aries
Moon: Cancer
Mars: Pisces

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Scorpio3x
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posted October 15, 2007 08:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have found that when there are fights and misunderstandings even in my own family, sometimes it's good just to take a temporary time out and let things settle. right now, everyone's tempers and feelings are still hot. Let things cool down, go off on your own for a while and then, in time everyone will forget and pick up where they left off.

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted October 15, 2007 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Scorpluv,

While reading your post I noticed a few key things you said. You said:

1. Serious issues have been popping up lately.

2. Your friend continues to think in an immature fashion.

3. Your other friends are truly judgemental.

You can correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like you rightfully just judged your 25 year old friend as thinking in an immature way and she probably behaves that way as well. It doesn't mean you don't love her or still want to hang out with her, but you must consider how she's going to speak or behave in a crowd of more mature friends of yours. There's nothing wrong with being judgemental, it's actually necessary within reason in order to protect oneself. No matter who started the fight, apparantly her presence caused enough stress for someone to pop their cork. So that's just one thing to consider when socializing with your friend or the other friends.

You also mentioned serious issues popping up. I noticed that your birthday is 1979, so you are 28 and without even looking at your chart, I know that between 28 and 30 people experience their Saturn Return. Some key words for Saturn are:

serious
maturity
responsibility
truth
endings
boundaries
authority
rules

there's so much more, but I wanted to point out that part of being a friend is telling the truth to your friends. It's up to you but you could gently confront your immature friend and tell her how you feel. It sounds like you've already been trying to tell her that.

As far as the other friends, look at it from their perspective. You brought someone along to their social event who was not of their maturity level and this person made everyone feel uncomfortable. Not everyone can mix socially and it's not always a good idea to try.

If I'm just rehashing things you've already gone over, then please excuse my repeating it, but it seems that your Saturn Return is bringing up issues of maturity for you, at least the recognition of it right now and that's what a Saturn Return is all about, making you a fully matured responsible adult who faces responsibilities, etc.

I will look at your chart now and see if there is anything additional, but it's an interesting part of astrology that just by understanding the 28 year cycle of Saturn and what it represents, you were speaking your chart just by using those key words. I'm sure everything will work out for you, it's all a learning experience with a purpose.

Geocosmic Valentine

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posted October 15, 2007 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Scorpluv,

I'm back and it appears that your Saturn Return isn't here yet, but sometime within the next year and a half. But it is approaching and right now Saturn is transiting through your 11th house of friendship, love received, hopes and wishes, but it appears to be suggesting a focus on serious issues with friends.

There is another transit that is occuring now also, transiting Neptune is opposing your natal Mars located in your 11th house of friends, Neptune can cause confusion and deception and suggests your chart is reflecting a feeling of confusion about friends and relationships. Your Mars rules your 7th house of relationships so it may not just be friends but other kinds of relationships and partner ships as well. You may be feeling some deception and/or shame, it sounds a little like your judgemental friends may be shaming you about your immature friend and your immature friend may be feeling shamed by your bringing up the subject. The whole issue of a fight breaking out amongst grown women in general feels a little like a shameful issue and you are in the middle of it.

So without spelling out all the symbolism, because I'm starting to fade, the chart is basically suggesting that your self-worth is disolving somewhat around this issue and other. It's all mixed up within how you should give love, receive love and when you don't feel good about your own self-worth, it's hard to give or receive, whether it's friends or another relationship, there's just a feeling of confusion, deceptions and shame.

It's good that you're asking for possible clarity outside of yourself because this is all very strongly reflected in your chart right now.

It appears that you may need to beware of your temper, the chart suggests that you can get angry in a flash and that won't help in any of these situations.

Last but not least, there may be a loss of friendship or relationship at this time and the symbols I see are that transiting Saturn is semi-square your natal Pluto in Libra in your first house. Just the occurance of Pluto in Libra in your first house suggests that there is an all important focus on relationships for you in your life in general, social issues, being fair and balance.

Once again, it's all about learning, and you're seeking answers and I'm sure you'll find them.

Good luck to you and hopefully I'm not just blowing smoke here.

Geocosmic Valentine

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