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Mama Mia
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posted October 24, 2007 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had this huge misundersatnding with a close friend of mind (matter of the heart) and I vowed to never speak to him again. However this fight took place over email, and after some time I feel like it was a misunderstanding and it keeps kind of nagging at me. I just wonder if its two things that is causing me to feel this way the full moon tomorrow(true feelings) or does it have something to do with Mercury going back in about a week..I am not going to take all the blame for this but I do feel that some things were not expressed right..

Did anyone else have this happen to them during this period, I have never had this happen to me around this time..

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted October 24, 2007 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi MamaMia,

It's happened to me and I'm a person who constantly preaches not to fear Mercury Retrograde. I believe it is a built in time of review and repair that God gives us 3 times a year.

The most interesting thing you repeated more than once in your post is that you are now beginning to believe that this was an understanding (edit-MISUNDERSTANDING). See, it just happened to me, I'm in edit mode now. LLOOLLL!!!

I have a suggestion for "REVIEWING" the situation:

Re-read the emails again as if you were an emotionless robot. I'm not kidding. Strip the emotion from them with a monotone voice and take the literal meanings of the words and you might see that you are correct, that there was a mis-understanding.

I think your inner voice is urging you to look at the exchange again. Also, you might want to take some time away from the emails just to let your brain breath a little. Listen to some music or immerse yourself in some very mindless stupid television, nothing emotionally triggering, then come back to the emails and see what you think.

I hope the situation comes out positive for you.

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villy
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posted October 24, 2007 09:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, misunderstanding or miscommunication .. since yesterday evening talking to my manager has been quiet difficult :| .. sigh, didn't realize Mercury is in retrograde.

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Lucia23
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posted October 24, 2007 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've noticed that the house Mercury is transiting when it retros, and the aspects to it in my chart, make a huge difference in how it effects me.

This one is in my ninth house, square my Venus and conjunct my Uranus. The Venus thing has sucked--basically, things falling apart in my home, and miscommunications about them, delaying getting them fixed. The ninth house rules publication and, as a writer, I've been through the ringer with editors during this retro.

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posted October 25, 2007 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From a daily horoscope newsletter:

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Venus Opposes Uranus
What do you think, Melody? Consider yourself warned! Tomorrow, lovely Venus opposes impetuous Uranus, making for a difficult day when it comes to matters of the heart. Unruly and unpredictable, it's a day for lovers to expect the unexpected... or at least be prepared for the not so pleasant surprises that arise with this aspect. The good news is, as long as you keep your wits about you, there's nothing you can't handle. As the Full Moon approaches, it's time for things to come to a head anyway. So take whatever comes your way as a blessing. Simply make "clear the air" your mantra.

Unexpected Issues in Love
How to deal when Venus opposes Uranus
by Red Published: 10/23/2007
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When you hear that the planet of love and beauty (Venus) is in opposition with the planet of intuition and expression (Uranus), most people think that they need to brace themselves for the worst. That's not necessarily a bad idea, but a clearer understanding of the planetary forces at work could help you avoid repeating old mistakes, as well as new ones.

The term "opposition" usually triggers a negative definition - one usually indicative of hostility. In astrology, when two heavenly bodies are separated 180 degrees "opposing" each other, it doesn't always mean that doom and gloom is about to ensue. It does bring about the opportunity to gain deeper understanding and learn a lesson or two.

Venus rules our attractions, our sense of beauty, our romances, and attracts our money and possessions. She is key to how we respond to people and situations. Uranus, the eccentric in our charts, brings us the unexpected. He rules our insight and intuition, how we express ourselves and seek new relationships and experiences.

This emotionally charged time can herald amazing breakthroughs or incredible challenges. When these two planetary forces are in harmony with each other, things flow free and easily - but when they are opposed… sometimes forewarned is fore-armed.

As Venus comes into opposition with Uranus, you may want to take a moment to evaluate your own emotional balance and get clear with yourself regarding objectives and goals. Because this can be an erratic and emotionally charged time, the more clarity you have, the better you can navigate situations that may arise with those who surround you.

For many, feelings of insecurity and rebelliousness will run high - others will find themselves uncomfortably more wishy-washy than usual. Disagreements may spiral out of control, ending some relationships in order to seek much needed change and freedom - while chance encounters may spark new relationships or whirlwind experiences for those who choose not to resist taking a walk on the wild side.

This chaotic time teaches many of us the value of compromise. In matters of the heart, it underlines the importance of cherishing what we love, and lends a deeper understanding to what truly matters to us, even if we come to realize that our priorities have changed. See how this time will influence your particular sign below:

Fire Signs: Aries, Leo and Sagittarius
Be careful not to let your ego and willful spirit lead you down a path you may regret. Choose your battles wisely and if you must fight, at least try to be fair. Words are weapons that can penetrate more quickly and deeply than the sharpest blade.

Earth Signs: Taurus, Virgo and Capricorn
You may feel far less grounded than what you are familiar with, and it may take you a minute or two to get your feet back on the floor. Creativity and inspiration are heightened around you now. Be careful not to get so caught up in your own ideas that you fail to hear out those close to you.

Air Signs: Gemini, Libra and Aquarius
Don't think yourself into a place filled with doubt and insecurities. Likewise, you need to guard against getting too wrapped up in your latest cause or mission. Set aside some time to nurture the relationships you cherish - and have a little fun.

Water Signs: Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces
The intuition that usually guides you so well, is likely to lead you astray into depression and suspicion - if you let it. This is a good time for you to measure your interactions. If you recognize the emotional roller-coaster you are riding, you can save yourself and those you care about from a whole lot of drama.

Learn lessons the celestial way
As with all celestial activity taking place now, the current events may impact you more or less, depending on their relationship to your birth chart. We look to the heavens to guide us and make sense of the things we don't understand. Astrology brings order from chaos, stability from fluctuation, and the understanding that negative situations usually end with positive growth.

http://www.californiapsychics.com/articles/Newsletter/1774/Unex pected_Issues_in_Love.aspx?origin=WE_US_20071024
I'm not pro-mo'ing the psychics, I've never called a psychic. I just like the daily horoscope and many of the articles.

Related Articles
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Spontaneous Combustion!
Venus trines Uranus on Sunday, creating the perfect opportunity for impromptu romance. Try these 5 ways to generate some heat without going far from home!
Venus Conjuncts Uranus
Understand this planetary combo - and how it affects your chart!
Fighting Fair
As Venus Squares Uranus, learn to duke it out sensibly


Now you know what extra fun is on the way...


I was wondering if Merc was retro. I've been tempted to take a hammer to my computer lately. Well, not really, but I did stand up once and take a few imaginary swings.

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Mama Mia
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posted October 25, 2007 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah GV, I get you and I have thought about what was said went back and read what was said and I do believe that we had some miscommunication and stuff, but its done and well, since I have no idea how to turn it around, I am gonna just let it be and if its meant to be cleared up fate will have its way..

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annaf
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posted October 25, 2007 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for annaf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Mama Mia,

I had a similar experience - huge misunderstanding through email with one of my longest / closest friends. It DID concern a touchy subject, but I'm completely shocked how my email could have been as misinterpreted as it turned out to be. We have been having a tough time lately, and havent spoken since this email misunderstanding last week. I feel it was the last straw and may mean even the end of our friendship. (not that the misunderstanding by itself, but this misunderstanding seems to have been the last straw...)

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Mama Mia
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posted October 25, 2007 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Annf: ******** big sigh***********


What can you do...

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CrabbyKitty
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posted October 25, 2007 02:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mama Mia, Merc retro has never had any significant effect on me in the years since I've known to watch for it. Except this month.

I'd been dating this guy for about a month, and things were great in every way. We had spent the whole weekend together and had a fantastic time. Came back to his house, and right before I left, got into a huge ... misunderstanding! It wasn't even a fight, but things were said and all of a sudden it just blew up into this gigantic mess. On the 23rd (haha...what was that Mystic quoted about Venus opposing Uranus?) we tried to talk one more time and wound up just ending it. It was bizarre! I've never been that close to someone and then had it turn into such a mess at the speed of light!

I've also lost my debit card, and this morning my car's warning lights - check engine soon, blah blah...were lit up like a freakin' Christmas tree. I think I'll just stay home and curl up in my blankie and wait for things to lighten up! Sheesh.

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Isolaede
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posted October 25, 2007 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isolaede     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mercury rx experiences have varied. Sometimes I experience a lot of mechanical / technology issues, other times I feel that no one can understand what I’m saying, which is frustrating but it doesn’t necessarily lead to arguments, and of course there are the times when misunderstandings and arguments abound.

The beginning part of this Rx passed with barely a whisper, but the latter part has been challenging. My finance and I got into not one but two huge arguments on none other than October 23rd. Both fights were silly, simple misunderstandings got blown in huge issues and were immediately met with great anger. Harsh things were said, neither one of us could manage to see the other persons perspective. Fortunately we’re worked through everything, but I still feel pretty beat up and sad.

Perhaps those of us that are water signs or have scorpio / 8th house placements are really feeling this one. And our shared bad experiences on the 23rd definitely seem tied to the Venus Opposed to Uranus issue.

So recognizing the pattern here, I encourage you Mamma, CrabKitty and everyone else experiencing sadness and misunderstanding to hold off any final judgments and decisions on your relationships/friendships until after the Rx. Right now our mental judgment and ability to truly understand others’ is weaker. Once the fog of the Rx clears up, go back and really analyze the situations conversations that left you hurt. Hopefully you’ll be more able to see the other person’s perspective, and will be able to re-establish your friendship / relationship.

*hugs* My thoughts and prayers are with you all.

Isolaede

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CrabbyKitty
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posted October 25, 2007 07:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Isolaede.

I've never been on such a runaway train of mis-steps and misunderstanding. Every word spoken just escalated it. I'm very intuitive and he's a soft spoken Virgo, but once it started it was a thing of its own.

It's made me very sad, but I don't know if it can be fixed. I will take your suggestion, though, to look at it later just to see if I can be clearer in my own mind about each of our actions, especially my own. It's hard to see something that was full of hope just fly completely out of reach.

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Mama Mia
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posted October 26, 2007 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isolaede: I understand and that is what I decided to do was wait until all this blows over and see how I feel. The day Mercury went retro was the day this big fight took place and he and I have not spoken since. I told him I would never contact him again and well I actually told him what I thought of him as well...Uh lets just say it wasn't a pretty picture, I know that it hurt his Cancer moon in the 1st house and he is Cancer rising, I know I hurt his feelings but he stung me too..


CrabbyK: The man that I had this big fight with is Virgo as well and you know when things get out of hand and stuff start flying and mean things are being said and emotion is being flung around they duck out for awhile they are so sensetive..Mines has Venus in Libra so you know he was like I am out of here...

So all we can do is chill..

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CrabbyKitty
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posted October 26, 2007 12:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mama Mia, mine has Venus in Libra as well, Aqua Asc, and Moon in Pisces. Sensitivity in great abundance, but sometimes it's sensitivity about his own feelings without a lot of understanding for someone else.

As for me, I have a Cancer sun, Leo running rampant throughout my chart (incl asc), with a Virgo Moon. I go along pretty easily until something happens that makes me feel disrespected or put down, and then I can get pretty fired up. In this case it was, in my mind, not respecting physical boundaries. In his mind I overreacted, which made him uncomfortable, etc. and it just went from there.

Now he says my anger scared him, he can never be comfortable around me again, and doesn't want to see me. I don't think I have any argument with that - obviously there is something not right between us. Synastry between us didn't look good, but everything was going so smoothly I just ignored it. There are 12 squares between us - kind of hard for that not to rear its ugly head at some point, I guess.

Sorry to go on about all of this - I've strayed from the original post - but it's made all the more weird that this one day has had such a similar affect on all of us. Thanks, Mama Mia, for helping make some sense of it.

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Mama Mia
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posted October 26, 2007 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And they say us Water signs are cry babies..

You and your Virgo have similar charts like me and my Virgo..He has Cancer moon and I have Pisces sun..Is the other way around with you guys..You guys have sun conjunct moon whichis good..We only have 2 bad aspect I think. 1 I know is Moon conjunct Saturn..We tend to make more out of the negative then it is( like this) and Moon conjunct Asc. Barriers are put up not being open and honest about feelings..(thats him) thats what started the argument..I don't know if we will speak again CrabbyK, we have alot of history though been know him 21 years..I care but don't care if he is mad if you get that, it is not all my fault I won't take all the blame..He told me before this blow up that he does not think that there is anything that I could possibly do to end his love for me, we will see won't we..We have Sun/conjunct Venus so thats prolly why he feels this way..


Hope you feel better CrabbyK, its the weekend go hang out see a funny movie do something nice for your self its all you can do..

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CrabbyKitty
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posted October 26, 2007 01:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep - I was planning on a movie, a nice walk on a sunny fall day, and getting my house organized. Maybe dinner out as an added bonus!

I'm sorry about you and your Virgo - it sounds like you two just need some thinking time, though - 21 years is a long time. Maybe he just needs to go to the Cancer "cave" for awhile to recharge.

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