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Vintry
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posted October 28, 2007 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carol Rushman (astrologer)states that this technique works in 90%.

SO,the number of potential marriages = the number of applying aspects the Sun (for women)or Moon (for men) makes before it leaves the sign.

Can somebody please help me with calculation! I am confused.. Do I count the number of aspects to my Sun in natal chart? I doubt it..

here are my planet placements:

Sun - 5 Cap
Moon - 29 Aqua
Mercury - 14 Sag
Venus - 20 Aqua
Mars - 1 Pis
Jupiter - 20 Cap
Saturn - 24 Sco
Uranus - 15 Sag
Neptune - 1 Cap
Pluto - 4 Sco

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posted October 28, 2007 01:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Vintry!
I think you have 2 aspects: with Jupiter and Saturn.

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Vintry
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posted October 28, 2007 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got a reply I got a reply :)

thank you!

but how did you calculate that? please share, I really want to know how to do that!

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posted October 28, 2007 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And something else, the aspects allowed are only sextile, trine, conjunction, opposition and square.

ONLY applying aspects and the strongest aspect will describe the first marriage.

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NeptuneLove
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posted October 28, 2007 01:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Sun in Virgo - 5 degrees

Mercury 8 Virgo
Jupiter 17 Virgo
Saturn 27 Virgo

Well, 3 marriages so far...

when Sun reaches 19 Virgo makes a square to Neptune
20 Virgo - sextile with Venus
21 Virgo - sextile with Uranus

now this is scaring !!

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posted October 28, 2007 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Our Suns are conjunct Vintry.

The way the equation is worded it's difficult to figure out what you're looking for. It sounds like it's talking about the Sun or Moon progressing, and how many aspects it makes before it gets out of it's home sign. In a way that doesn't make sense, though, because the Sun takes longer to leave it's sign [moves slower] than the Moon does, so women would potentially have a lot more aspects than guys would.

If it's just natal aspects, I've got three to my Moon, and I haven't married a single time yet. I'm 34. I guess I'd have to do that later in life.

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posted October 28, 2007 01:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
but how did you calculate that? please share, I really want to know how to do that!

Sun will conjunct Jupiter (20 Capricorn ) and then will make a sextile with Saturn (24 Capricorn)

lucky you

*sigh

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posted October 28, 2007 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"APPLYING/SEPARATING: An applying aspect is an aspect that is becoming stronger, while a separating aspect is one that is becoming weaker. For example, suppose that a person has the Moon 89 degrees ahead of the Sun in the birthchart. Because the Moon always travels faster than the Sun and it is 89 degrees ahead of the Sun, then we know that it is in the process of becoming more exact; in other words it is an applying aspect. On the other hand, if the Moon was 91 degrees of the Sun, the square aspect would be separating."
http://astrology.horoscope.com/horoscopes/astrological-aspects.html

...So then wouldn't an applying aspect have to be of a lesser degree than the Sun, if that's what you're looking at?

For example, if I have Sun at 10 degrees Libra, an applying aspect would be Venus at 3 deg Libra...and a seperating aspect would be Moon at 16 degrees Libra??? (Just want to clarify).

Thanks!
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posted October 28, 2007 02:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
5 Marriages? I have 5 aspects? Oh God. Well I do have Mercury in Gemini in the 7th but I respect myself too.

The first and closest is the opposition with Neptune and Sun. A pisces was my first love. Second is opposite Ascendant in Sag. Sag is my sister, and friend. Third is trine Pluto. Scorpio is my mother constant in my life. Fourth is Jupiter, again close connection to sister-Sag. Fifth is Uranus, Lots and Lots of Venus in Aquarius people, but no Aquarian Suns. Father was an Aquarian Sun but passed away.

Currently unmarried. The Uranus aspect is in the 10/11th houses in Libra, which is the empty house on a T-Square involving Venus. Libra was my first serious love.

So I see Neptune and Venus as the big ones. Currently all my friends are Scorpios, and Arians, and one Sag.

Pisces has to be all or nothing with me, Pisces men and women must be number 1. Same with Libras. Very difficult to build a life around either sign.

I don't know about the waxing aspects, I'm more inclined to believe in the closest aspects, the conjunctions, and the oppositions.

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posted October 28, 2007 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Missa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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...So then wouldn't an applying aspect have to be of a lesser degree than the Sun, if that's what you're looking at?

No, it depends of the planets. If Moon is 9 degrees Virgo, and Sun is 10 degrees Virgo, it is an applying aspect because Moon will reach Sun. If Pluto is 9 degrees Virgo, and Sun is 10 degrees, it is seperating aspect because Sun moves faster than Pluto and Pluto will never reach the Sun.

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posted October 28, 2007 02:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NeptuneLove,
You described it perfectly.
EightMoon,
it is correct. I mean, your example is correct.


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posted October 28, 2007 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhhhh, TY Missa and Jan.

So...If my sun is Pisces 26 deg, and it natally conjuncts Saturn at 1:45 deg Aries...that would be my first marriage. (Which makes sense...I was married to an Aries who was very restrictive in a Saturnine fashion!)

The next aspect I have is a trine to Jupiter/MC in Cancer at 24 deg...interestingly enough it's in the 9th house. Second marriage?

Then we're looking at a Uranus opposition, but it's 4 deg apart and finally a trine to Neptune in Scorpio 24 deg.

Hopefully, the second will happen and the buck will stop there!

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posted October 28, 2007 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
probably shouldn't be doing this but...
http://rapidshare.com/files/65845208/potential_number_of_marriages.jpg.html

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posted October 28, 2007 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Woah Nellie!

I just calculated my guy's using the moon method (he's never been married) and the first aspect is his Mars in Cancer...conjunct my Jupiter/MC aka second marriage!!!

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posted October 28, 2007 04:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have Sun in Virgo - 5 degrees
Mercury 8 Virgo
Jupiter 17 Virgo
Saturn 27 Virgo

What do you think ? Could i have a three in one guy instead of three different guys to marry with ??

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posted October 28, 2007 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NeptuneLove,

thanks for doing the math for me! :) so it is 2 times for me

follow the link I posted above and download the 2 pages from the book. Maybe it is just two marriages for you too because as you will read aspect to mercury and venus will indicate close alliances that do not lead to marriage.

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posted October 28, 2007 04:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you !!
Things got clearer to me
so are you thinking of a Sagittarius or some foreign Capricorn, eh ?

Well,now i have these two too and i can say
I`ve never ever dealt with a Sagittarius guy...

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posted October 28, 2007 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NeptuneLove,

you know, it might really come true! I am surrounded by foreigners because I live in UK but come from Ukraine ;)

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posted October 28, 2007 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for braveheart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FIY: on the aspect charts from astro they have an (a or s) in the box.

Do you count only the planets and angles, or the fixed starts al well?

My first Sun aspect is a conjunction to Saturn with an orb of 0. This seems right because my partner is a triple Capricorn. Saturn rules Capricorn.

My next aspect is a square to Lilith in Leo with an orb of 5. Does this count?

My last aspect is a square to the ASC in Aqua with an orb of 3.

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posted October 28, 2007 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Brave Heart!

There is a link that Vintry posted that tells you which planets to use. I know for a female, using the sun, she said to count only the aspects to the outer planets...from Mars on.

Thanks Vintry...fun post!

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posted October 28, 2007 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Moon is at 29 degrees Virgo. Because of this, wouldn't any applying aspects be my natal aspects?

Sun Square Moon 5°42
Moon Sextile Mars 2°07
Moon Sextile Neptune 6°29
Moon Conjunction Pluto 4°49
Moon Trine Ascendant 3°18

Here's the reference text:

It would appear that my square and conjunction would trump the rest of the aspects.

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posted October 28, 2007 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AcousticGod, this is for you.

"If there are no applying aspects to the Sun or Moon in the chart or if the luminary is in a late degree (27, 28 or 29), I have found that anything can happen when it comes to marriage. It's truly up to the person to realize the potential. I do conside 27, 28 and 29 to be very special degrees. I call them 'wild-card' degrees. I feel that clients can get anything out of this placement that they want if they are willing to go for it."

Once again, this is from Carol Rushman's book "The Art of Predictive Astrology". VERY interesting book! Everything this author writes is based on her 30 years experience as astrologer.

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posted October 28, 2007 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool! I get to choose then!

I think I will marry at least once, and if it turns out well it will be my only time. If not, then we'll see what happens.

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posted October 28, 2007 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what I understand, AG, that's correct. My sun is in the 26th degree...so I didn't have long to go before it went into that next house either!

Hope you're doing well!

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posted October 28, 2007 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope you're doing well as well!

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