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writesomething
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posted October 29, 2007 01:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted October 29, 2007 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yea interesting synastry and composite.. but the actual you two getting together.. Forget about it.. just because we have stellar synastry or composite with someone doesnt mean were suppose to get with them.. and besides he is married and I dont even know what an open marriage is.. but it doesnt sound right.. move on.

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posted October 29, 2007 02:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well at the meeting i was at he admitted to everyone him and his wife have a open marriage, and she lost interest in sex years ago, etc etc...he didnt say it directly to me, which would of been weird if he did...heh...yeah well..its easy to say move on, but i was intrigued before i even looked at the composite/synastry.

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posted October 29, 2007 02:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That Neptune t-square is making me suspicious of something, like something's not right. If it's an open marriage and he has Uranus in the 7th, does that mean he would want an open relationship with any woman he meets? I dunno, I find the idea of open marriages a little creepy.

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posted October 29, 2007 12:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My heart goes out to you that you are even to this point of questioning...

I say you track down and get to know the wife. I'll bet you'll hear an entirely different version of thier marriage! Be discrete of course...
If after having spent a fair amount of time getting to know her and about him, through her, you are still attracted and so inclined... Go for it. -The guilt alone should supply you enough emotional drama to last a lifetime filled with shame and humiliation.

Does'nt he have a son or grandson to hook you up with?

Do you notice how everything screams 8th house? You might seriously take note of what the eighth house is all about.
Quick Reference Chart

The eighth house represents the release from personal limitations, (like age) it’s the house in astrology that curls your spine and the one everyone whispers about because of it’s taboo nature. It governs "forbidden" topics such as sex, death, the occult and other people’s money! In addition, it is the most profound of all of the houses. It represents extraction of essences, expenditures, mysteries, business corporations, the stock market, research, restoration, psychoanalysis, and taxes. In addition, the eighth house brings to mind transformation, reincarnation, removal, recycling,
*special note here: scandals and secrets.
Source

The eighth house represents a point in time or space where some significant transition or mutation takes place. It therefore represents some crisis or catastrophic event or happening, where one form of something stops or dies and another takes over. This can be a form of rebirth or a devastating revelation to the native. It can be triggered by an event or it can come from within. The eighth house is known as the house of death, and it generally describes the nature of the native's death. But it also describes important changes in the native's life and his/her reaction to them. + Virgo in control of 8th = Suggests a restrained or constrained sex life as well. Source

I hope some of this helps you...
I completely agree with "Seeing Stars 7.21" in assessing that interesting synastry does not mean we should hook up.
*Interesting synastry will be found between students/teachers and murderers/victims alike!

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posted October 29, 2007 12:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you go into it, go with with your eyes wide open and be realistic. I think just being friends with him would still pull you into something more. That chart looks like someone who could deceive themselves emotionally, and therefore others. I'd be careful too with all the 8th house dynamics there. There's a lot going on that is not apparent on the surface, lots of control issues more than likely - who knows how deep or dark they are. You are playing with fire IMO.

If a man that old is willing to get involved with you, chances are he thinks he can control/manipulate you into what he wants. I wouldn't trust it, but you have your own mind and your own intuition about it - you lack as much experience though which makes you vulnerable.

When I look at this chart, I feel bad about it, just my 2 cents.

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posted October 29, 2007 04:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 29, 2007 04:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
** I say you track down and get to know the wife.
I'll bet you'll hear an entirely different version of thier marriage! **

i take it that chart is the composite ???
whatever the case .. it's got a long run of transiting saturn conjunctions ahead ..

step one .. find out if he's filthy rich
step two .. make sure his wife is not the jealous type and not a homocidal maniac
step three .. get him to write out a will in your favour
step four .. shag him to death
step five .. collect the money and move on

alternatively .. become a nurse

.. just joking ~ writesomething ~ ..

.. but .. not joking about the saturn transits ..

" there is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so " .. shakespeare ..

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posted October 29, 2007 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Too funny, HD!!!

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posted October 30, 2007 12:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HD, i dont know if hes rich, he doesnt come off rich, but he comes off happy and comfortable. he doesnt dress "rich". that really doesnt concern me though, im not interested in getting anyone's money. to me, love would have to be in the picture.


hes a very nice man, he has been nothing but a gentleman thus far, he keeps a wise distance from me probably because he knows better, or hes scared id reject him.
either way, i get a feeling something will defintely play out between us, either friendship wise or romantically.

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Happy Dragon
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posted October 30, 2007 04:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
~ writes ~

honest .. i was just joking about with those remarks ..

am not quite sure what you meant by right or wrong ..
i.e. as in from an astro point of view .. or what society might think

ok i wrote out the outer transits to the composite ..
tried to post last night .. but the internet went down till this morning
but in retrospect does it really matter .. i.e. the transits ..
( if u want to know the trannys just let us know )

yeah i wrote out a ton last night but am going to rethink it all ..
need tea infusion right now .. sort of confused ..
went to bed really late ..4.am ..
have just been woken by screaming kiddies next door ..
thought it was 1 in the afternoon .. clock sais 8am something
am in a confused state right now .. :-))
( you can always email moi .. you are ~ eatbooks ~ .. no ??
( or am i suffering more confusion now :-))

i'll pop back later ..

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posted October 31, 2007 05:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You ARE interested in money writesomething. That's belony. I think sub-conciously you are looking for a father-figure / protector. You don't particualy like work, and like many Virgo Sun females tend towards being a bit of a 'leaner'. When i've spoken to you before you've stated that a man must be well set-up for you to be interested in them, and therefore you wouldn't go for someone like me regardless of the raw sex appeal there. If you weren't interested in the finacial status of a man (which you are) then you would obviously go for me because i tick all the other boxes. I make you laugh, i turn you on sexually, and i stimulate you mentally. Face it, i'm the best you could hope for. Unfortunately i'm looking for a sincere girl who's not afetr me for my money, and you're after a ''guy with a career who knows where he's going'', so i'm afraid i doubt anything will happen between us.
Apologies.

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Happy Dragon
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posted October 31, 2007 07:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
~ writes ~
here's the transit setup to that composite chart ..

transiting Pluto squaring that Virgo Saturn
( pluto will be moving off fairly soon i think )
transiting Uranus will be opposing the Virgo placements ..
( uranus now sits midway in the pisces sector )

transiting Saturn conjoining the Virgo placements ..
( and squaring the Jupiter placement at some stage )
Saturn will go retrograde this december at 8 deg. Virgo
untill may .. when it turnes direct again at 1 deg. Virgo

transiting Jupiter squaring the same
transiting Neptune and Chiron are in the Aquarian sector .. i.e. near composite Moon and opposite composite Chiron ..
Neptune is moving off ... i.e. it's passed that degree anyway
but Chiron will conjoin the composite Moon and oppose composite Chiron twice in 2008 ..

i've not observed many transit effects to composites ..
mainly just a breif glance when a freindship has gone through troubled times
and as with natal charts .. there's been a challenging influence ( aspect) ..
from one or more of the outer planets ..

so at a guess you might find while saturn is aspecting ..
that there be a few obstacles in the way .. i.e. all the regular saturn interps ..
self imposed fears and inhibitions etc .. or apparently from external influences
and with t.uranus i guess there will be a few awakening shocks to be had ..
disruptions and the like .. and some illuminating life observations to be had ..

( edited to add )
i guess the 8th house meanings shouldn't be ignored ..
if he's ok with open relationships ..
then there's the potential of other partners besides yourself ..
then there's the obvious possibility of 'shared' germs .. i.e. std's etc ..
i.e. given the transits .. it might transpire to be a potential saturn lesson for the relationship ..
but i guess you'll figure that in any case ..

Saturn will be in Virgo untill end June 2010
and will again retro/direct in the first half of 2009

i'd say look at the natal charts and see what transits lay ahead for both of you ..
saturn often presents a lesson in the guise of an oportunity ..
as for the age difference .. it's not all that uncommon ..

as for the rights and wrongs of it ..
well .. and just my personal opinion ..
as long as no gets hurt ..
and both parties are honest and there are no darker motivations .. hidden agendas ..
and they find happiness and companionship together ..
then it is their business and their business alone ..

i guess you'd have to expect other people making judgments ..
making baseless assumtions etc .. .. ce la vie ..

i used to have a similar couple as neighbours .. they've sinced moved ..
she was 30 .. and he in his early 60's .. he was a music professor at the university ..
they were quite happy together ..
and no doubt .. still are ..

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posted October 31, 2007 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What kind of meeting was it that he told all the attendees that he was in an open marriage?

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Happy Dragon
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posted October 31, 2007 10:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AG .. i'd been wondering the same ..

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posted October 31, 2007 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know, I think about this, and none of it seems particularly good.

He's in an open marriage, which he's staying in. Chances are that he wants to stay in that relationship. Otherwise, he'd ditch it. That means that if you get into a relationship with him, you will have to deal with and be subordinate to his other relationship forever. Heaven forbid you should fall in love or something, because there won't ever be a way to get him all to yourself.

So I guess my suggestion is that you play everything out ahead of time [in your head], and see the roads you may have to go down, and the tough decisions you are going to have to make. That way you can make a better informed decision.

If you want a good friends-with-benefits situation, this could be a very good opportunity for that. You could stay with him as long as it suits your desire, always knowing that eventually you're going to ditch him for a more suitable relationship. Older people are great for no-strings-attached kind of affairs. Just don't ever let your heart get too involved.

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posted October 31, 2007 12:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i can see some guy sitting at a meeting ..
and mentioning the ' wife aint interested in sex but is ok with open relationships' ..
intentionaly so he can be overheard by any nearby females .. :-)
i.e. ' lets' toss this one out 'n see if i get a reaction '
as in .. older folk can read younger folk like a book ..
e.g. re-active body language ..
it might be a way of re-affirming that he still 'has it' as a man ..
i.e. if he gets an appropriate reaction ..
maybe it's a tried 'n tested fishing technique ..

if his wife aint interested in nooky no more ..
maybe 'cause his technique is somewhat lacking ..

seriously though marje .. the scenerio as posted is somewhat lacking in detail ..
after all .. no one except ~ writes ~ really knows much about him
and re astrolgy .. the natal charts are an unknown as well ..

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posted October 31, 2007 03:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An open-marriage, to me, means that BOTH partners engage in sexual activity outside the marriage. In this case, since the wife isn't interested in sex, it seems like he's doing all the shagging on the side.

A married man will never marry you, because he's already married. I'd run for the hills.

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posted October 31, 2007 03:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you know what people's bodies are like at that age? It's disgusting - no offense to anyone! And don't tell me men are different...they're bods are equally disgusting at that age. I sincerely hope this attraction is not physical...otherwise he'll be hacking out phlegm while you O - if it's possible to O with the elderly

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Uranus conjunct his descendant... uncoventional partnerships. Maybe unstable ones. Moon opposite Uranus, it may be that he seeks out emotional excitement. Personally I wouldn't get too close.

Is Pluto in 8th a very sexual placement?

If this man is having sex with a lot of women, he could be a walking STD... yuck.

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posted November 01, 2007 05:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think the age difference is "wrong" at all.

However, I don't think we are designed to have "open" relationships. It may sound ok in theory, but most people need more than that....they need to feel secure, etc, and they need/ deserve the kind of loyalty that builds self-esteem and self respect.

Millions of years of evolution have made us need this loyalty, for the sake of survival, etc.

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posted November 01, 2007 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WriteSomething,

Your first question:

"is the age difference wrong? hes married but he admits to having an "open marriage"..(uranus/7th, and venus trine uranus)..."

An age difference is a matter of personal preference. Some may be into it, and others not...overall, not a huge deal.

However, the interesting thing is the way the question is stated. You didn't ask if an open marriage was wrong. This isn't a matter of preference, but a matter of principle. It's obvious that you think that you are OK with the concept, but as YFS mentioned, how does his wife feel about this? How about their children? Their grandchildren?

Right now you think you're OK with the concept because it gives you an open window to justify going for what you want. However, being involved in the experience will be much different. His wife is his love...you will be his sex. And if his wife is aware that you're in the picture, he'll tell you that he was honest with you from the beginning, and he can't offer you more...you knew what you were getting into.

It would be helpful if you posted your own chart or your synastry because from what I gather from your post:

"to me, love would have to be in the picture"

says that your deluding yourself to believe that "open marriage" means an "open door" for you to get in, and once you're there, the man will love you...and leave his wife if you want him to because you're younger.

Your other post:

"either way, i get a feeling something will defintely play out between us, either friendship wise or romantically"

basically means that you've already made up your mind to go for this and you're looking for confirmation.

From an astrological viewpoint, YFS and many others have given you ample reason to stay away from the experience. A packed 8th house says that you're playing with fire. I'm not one for doom and gloom predicitions, but what happiness do you actually think you can bring this man or he you? Do you also have planets that fall into his 8th in synastry? Does he have planets that fall into your 8th in synastry?

If you said that this was your true soulmate and he was unmarried, even with the 8th house stuff, I'm sure that many would tell you the risks, but let you judge whether or not it was worth it. I don't think any of us here see how this kind of potential pain is worth it...especially when the circumstances (even without the astrology) scream "trouble."

I know this sounds harsh, but take it from a Venus Aries (impulsive in love) who has learned a little from life...if you're questioning it for any reason, and people are advising you against something, yet you continue to find ways to justify...it's wrong. Stay away from it.

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posted November 01, 2007 07:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
t.Uranus is squaring his natal Moon
by Feb '08 .. it will square his Asc /Desc
by May '08 it will be squaring natal Uranus ..

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