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aqua inferno
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posted November 01, 2007 02:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone here once said…people like Buddha & Jesus transcended their chart.

In Buddhism the enlightened are free from suffering…and EGO. They believe the ego must “die” – that it’s only an illusion.

Eckhart Tolle ( him ) says negative emotions leave residue that accumulates and an entity like thing is born – my paraphrasing is shite…sorry - he calls it the “pain body”. This, like the ego, has a strong hold on us, affecting our actions. Ultimately the pain body is also an illusion.

SO…this ego and pain body – could it be the same as Sun(ego) and Moon(pain body)?

Is that critic in your head your Sun and are your fears your Moon?

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EighthMoon
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posted November 01, 2007 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fascinating, Aqua. I had someone tell me once that the most advanced souls "transcend" their birthchart too. The concept always blew my mind because the only person that I couldn't even fathom a guess at was like that....off the charts spiritual...wondered if he was human. LOL!

I also wonder if this relates to the Heliocentric chart, since transcending your personality (natal chart) could lead you to your life/spiritual purpose (Helio).

Maybe someone with some Helio experience can confirm/negate that there theory!

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Sarai
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posted November 01, 2007 07:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you mean by "transcend?" As in, become a person so difficult to categorize astrologically because you pretty much embody all signs?

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posted November 01, 2007 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right, Sarai. Not a slave to your personality/limitations. Being connected to something greater.

Buddha back at cha!

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posted November 02, 2007 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's incredibly freeing to transcend (or try to) any programming you have, whether it's your childhood, your inherited disposition, your sociological conditioning, your astrology chart, and so on. I have the upmost respect for people who want to be a co-creator in their identity. You can't ever escape some foundation, no one starts with a blank slate--individual existence requires some definition--but self-consciousness and analysis can help you tap into all your potential.

I think of life as this pure, unformed energy that's then given shape and limit by whatever form we have: animal or plant, man or woman, Taurus or Sag.

It's funny how much that we think is "reality" is the way we're programmed to see reality. I love to identify the way I look at things as being in accordance with how my astrology chart says I would be, and then think of how someone with different signs and aspects would perceive reality. It's a fun mental exercise and even if I ultimately choose to go with what is natural and authentic for me, I like to be aware of what's influencing me to view that as natural and see how others would think differently.

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posted November 03, 2007 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jane!

I completely agree with you. Astrology can help explain the "whys," but we have free will over our reactions and the ability to change things through the given opportunities.

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