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Topic: Virginia Woolf and Leonard - a SM Story?
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Diandra23 unregistered
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posted November 11, 2007 06:12 PM
Hi!Since i saw Nicole Kidman´s movie about this couple i had the feeling they might have been pretty closed spirits - encarnated to help one another and instill creativity into their world through their love. I know it seemed an unusual love story,pretty much with highs and lows,and as she suffered of bipolar disease ( not yet diagnosed that time) could have made their life together misunderstood by other by the mood swings - but yet-never ended until she committed suicide. Before that she wrote this note to her husband : "I feel certain that I am going mad again. I feel we can't go through another of those terrible times. And I shan't recover this time. I begin to hear voices, and I can't concentrate. So I am doing what seems the best thing to do. You have given me the greatest possible happiness. You have been in every way all that anyone could be. I don't think two people could have been happier 'til this terrible disease came. I can't fight any longer. I know that I am spoiling your life, that without me you could work. And you will I know. You see I can't even write this properly. I can't read. What I want to say is I owe all the happiness of my life to you. You have been entirely patient with me and incredibly good. I want to say that — everybody knows it. If anybody could have saved me it would have been you. Everything has gone from me but the certainty of your goodness. I can't go on spoiling your life any longer. I don't think two people could have been happier than we have been" Their dates are: Virginia:January 25,1882 Leonard: November 25,1880 Still dont know the times of birth unfortunatelly so the charts cannot be as accurate as they should.. Ive chosen a 12:00 hour randomly for him but still their chart shows important bonds Not lookint to his Moon in tu~ight, and not to his AC also we got: Suns in sextile(1º) Moon trine NN - DW!this is very sweet aspect Venus trine Saturn - good for love Venus trine Psyche(0º) -DW vENUS TRINE Nep/kiron/ - Venus trine Pluto One´s Mars conj SN - others Psych conj SN NN conj KARMA! and JUNO Saturn/VX DW Venus-juno conj...and other a skuare-DW! Her Moon conj his Saturn His KARMA trine her AC ( fulfill IQ´s 1st) His AMOR conj her AC tHEY HAVE in 3ºORB ALLOWANCE..3 CINDERELLA LINKAGES!! Ive never seen a chart with so many.. I Strongly feel that if we look at their Dracos there will be another amount of karma and shared destinies in each other .. What do you think?
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EighthMoon Knowflake Posts: 102 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 11, 2007 06:20 PM
Interesting thread, DD! You know interps aren't my strong point, but since you have their info in your Astro, would you mind putting up their composite?Very atypical couple...so it's an interesting study! 8th IP: Logged |
Diandra23 unregistered
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posted November 11, 2007 06:24 PM
This is their composite - look at the ammount of trines there..Sun trine Mras/Jup/Saturn Moon trine Valentine Mercury Trine Mars/Sat/Uranus/Neptune Venus Trine Mars/Uranus/Neptune/Pluto
Not only they have a GRAND TRINE as have Venus/mERC conjunct Moon conj the IC Sun conj MC conj Merc VX conj DSC Valentine in the 7th oposing Saturn 4 CINDERELLA LINKAGES plus more 2 Kiron Linkages ! AMOR conj AC and NN trine AMOR pSYCH TRINE karma VALENTINE trine Moon Isnt this lovely or what?
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EighthMoon Knowflake Posts: 102 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 11, 2007 06:39 PM
But ya can't look at houses, or the AC/DC without knowing thier birth times, right? Maybe someone with lots of experience could rectify the houses based on their history. I'm thinking that she may have had a lot of 12th house stuff going on... Thanks for posting the composite, Di! I'll come back and ponder it later! 8th IP: Logged |
Diandra23 unregistered
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posted November 11, 2007 06:54 PM
8Moon!! you know what? i posted the composite right before you asked it hihihi-seems we are also in tune concerning intuition Yup i love this couple since i knew their story! IP: Logged |
Green Fairy unregistered
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posted November 11, 2007 09:53 PM
You got their birthdates wrong V. Woolf : January 25, 1882 Leonard : November 25, 1880 IP: Logged |
Diandra23 unregistered
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posted November 12, 2007 04:57 AM
OMG youa re right hihihi when i come from the store i will do their chart again! Thanks for seing that - as it was yesterday later night i was a little slippy so i put their days wrong...what an embarassment! IP: Logged |
Green Fairy unregistered
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posted November 12, 2007 05:52 AM
At least you didn't read the title as "Virginia Woolf and Leonard - a SM [as in sadomasochistic] relationship" as i did last night IP: Logged |
Diandra23 unregistered
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posted November 12, 2007 09:04 AM
Green Fairy You have a dirty mind hihihihi At least that way i got the attention to the thread ! Ok now all is edited IP: Logged |
vesta-sister unregistered
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posted November 12, 2007 11:01 AM
astrodatabank has her time of birth listed as 12:15 pm. IP: Logged |
Diandra23 unregistered
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posted November 12, 2007 05:31 PM
Thanks Vesta I only missed for 15 minutes hihihi - and Leonard isnt he listed? I guess we can work with an estimate no? IP: Logged |
EighthMoon Knowflake Posts: 102 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 13, 2007 06:37 AM
"The eyes of others our prisons; their thoughts our cages.""On the outskirts of every agony sits some observant fellow who points." "It is the nature of the artist to mind excessively what is said about him. Literature is strewn with the wreckage of men who have minded beyond reason the opinions of others." "It is far harder to kill a phantom than a reality." ~Virginia Woolf You know I'm not great at interps, Diandra, but before you posted the chart (Virginia's birthchart) I kept thinking 12th house and Uranus. Interesting! 8th IP: Logged |
Diandra23 unregistered
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posted November 13, 2007 09:39 AM
Im gonna surelly buy some of her books!I loved so much those quotes 8Moon- i feel somehow conected to hem - i too want so much my writtings to be understood by others. OMG - you were so right! on 12th she has - Moon -Saturn -uranus -kiron -Jupiter -pluto t´s loaded...no wnder she saied what that..12th house is a dificult one to bear with so many personal planets there.. But she also had a wonderful placement - Valentine conj her NN. IQ said that few people have this in their natals and it means that person will absolutely find her true love in this life - I think it was true in ther case of when she found her Guardian Angel Leonard. With her Sun in Aqua and Aries Moon she also could feel very limited and private of her freeness spirit in that century she lived-women were seen as so much little than they were IP: Logged |
bluegreyeyes Newflake Posts: 15 From: New York Registered: May 2009
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posted November 13, 2007 11:20 AM
I'm born on Jan 25th too. A little later though Our asc/moon are switched...I'm aqua / gem / aries... I didn't know she was bipolar. How sad. ------------------ *Christina* Aquarius SUN Gemini MOON Aries ASC IP: Logged |
venusdeindia unregistered
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posted November 14, 2007 01:41 AM
Diandra, great couple u have chosen to analyse do their draco, u might find great stuffIP: Logged |
Diandra23 unregistered
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posted November 14, 2007 03:23 PM
Thnaks Venus Here we go to the Dracos: His draco Leonard Sun 6 pisces Moon 11´7 sag Merc 2 pisces Vénus 10´31 aries Mars 26´45 aqua Saturn 22 aries Neptune 15 leo Pluto 0 virgo Kiron 17 leo Juno 6´20 aqua Valentine 23´41 sag Amor 10´2 virgo Karma 15´41 cap Osiries 13´37 gem Psyche 7´55 virgo Isis 8´55 libra Eros 18´2 aries Destiny 23´4 aqua VIRGINIA Sun 28´17 scorp Moon 18´7 aqua Merc 10´51 sag Vénus 21´52 scorp Mars aries 20´10 Saturn 28´40 aqua Neptune 6´34 pisces Pluto 20´11 pisces Kiron 10´24 pisces Juno 28´18 libra Valentine 27´46 virgo Amor 8´23 sag Karma 22´55 libra Osiries 0´7 gem Psyche 2´1 cancer Isis 18´13 cancer Eros 3 libra Destiny 29´12 libra AC 3´16 ARIES IC 28´42 TAURUS
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Diandra23 unregistered
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posted November 17, 2007 04:14 PM
So I finally had time to look on this with more attention:DRACOS Leo´s Sun conj V´s Neptune Leo´s Moon conj V´s Merc and oposes Amor Leo´s Venus trine V´s Merc;V´s Amor Leo´s Mars conj V´s Saturn, Juno.Trine her karma and Destiny Leo´s Saturn conj V´s Mars. Opposes V´s Karma ( here it is) Leo´s Neptune oposes V´s Moon Leo´s Chiron oposes V´s Moon, Leo´s Juno trine´s V´s Eros Leo´s Valentine trine´s V´s Mars Leo´s Amor conj V´s Kiron Leo´s Karma oposes V´s Ísis. Leo´s Osíris oposes V´s Mars. Leo´s Psyche oposes V´s Kiron/Neptune Leo´s Destiny trines V´s karma IP: Logged |