posted November 22, 2007 10:36 AM              

I wonder if someone can help me get a more objective view on two synastries.

Maybe I`m total delusional, but I have the strong feeling, that in both synastries there is some "karmic" business there.
Am I wrong here? But if not, can someone help me see WHAT kind of connection this is?

I guess I`m far too emotionally involved to have a clear sight on this all. So I`d appreciate any input.

Synastry: Person C - Person B

Synastry: Person C - Person A

Thank you.

posted November 23, 2007 12:09 AM            

I'm not very good at this DD, so I'll let the experts take a look..
But the second chart has lots of first house interaction, so that might mean attraction. Karma in someone's 8th house seems intense, maybe that's part of where the pull comes from? sorry wish I was better at this

posted November 23, 2007 03:34 AM              

In chart #1 I see a trine between B's Venus/Karma conjunction to C's Venus. The (loose) conjunction between B's Saturn and C's Moon can point to some kind of karma as well. The conjunction of C's Sun to B's Chiron seems pretty karmic too.

In chart #2 A's Karma falls into C's 8th house, which points to a karmic connection on C's part. A's Ascendant conjunct C's Chiron looks pretty important too. A's Jupiter/Karma conjunction also trines the conjunction of C's Ascendant, Mars, Neptune and North Node.

posted November 23, 2007 05:15 AM              

I wish i could help you more but as in the charts we dont see the orb i dont know how to look the most important ones :P

I agree with Venus - Dracos many times show conections that on the regular tropical are somehow "secret" - You know..on my sinastry with Jonnhy i also looked at asteroids Destinn and Union that showed also important conections with our ACīs ( i think they can also be considered somehow karmic)

On the 1st Chat iui liked the kiron-sun conj;kiron-jup conj ( 2 Cinderellas)
Juno/Mars Conj ( must be strong attractive bond);Oneīs Saturn/Eros falling into the otherīs 5th; the otherīs NN falling into the otherīs 8th

On the 2nd Chart:

posted November 23, 2007 01:29 PM              

And I take the hint about the Dracos, so I`ll list the placements here. The ASC of Person B and A are unsure; the ASC-sign is certain, but the exact degree is unknown. However, since both are very fast rising signs (they don`t even take one hour), the moon-degrees don`t change, so the Moon is right.

Person C:
Natal:
Sun: 26° Sagittarius
Moon: 18° Aquarius
MErcury: 26° Sagittarius
Venus: 7° Capricorn
Mars: 6° Sagittarius
Jupiter: 12° Pisces
Saturn: 17° Cancer
Uranus: 2° Scorpio
Neptune: 10° Sagittarius
Pluto: 10° Libra
NN: 11° Sagittarius
ASC: 8° Sagittarius
MC: 5° Libra

Chiron: 21° Aries
Vertex: 22° Cancer
Karma: 17° Gemini
Juno: 17° Pisces
Valentine: 28° Scorpio
Amor: 3° Sagittarius
ERos: 21° Cancer
Psyche: 25° Aquarius
Siva: 15° Scorpio
Kaali: 13° Gemini
Isis: 9° Capricorn
Osiris: 8° Capricorn
Union: 30° Libra
Destiny: 24° Cancer

Draco:

Sun: 16° Aries
Moon: 7° Gemini
MErcury: 16° Aries
Venus: 26° Aries
Mars: 25° Pisces
Jupiter: 2° Cancer
Saturn: 7° SCorpio
Uranus. 22° Aquarius
Neptune: 0° Aries
Pluto: 30° Capricorn
ASC: 28° Pisces
MC: 25° Capricorn

posted November 23, 2007 01:34 PM              

Person B:

tropical:
Sun: 17° Aries
Moon: 20° Taurus
Mercury: 8° Aries
Venus: 4° Taurus
Mars: 21° PIsces
Jupiter: 3° Pisces
SAturn: 10° Aquarius
URanus: 27° LEo
NEptune: 13° Scorpio
Pluto: 8° Virgo
NN: 17° Leo

Chiron: 9° PIsces
Juno: 22° Taurus
Karma: 8° Taurus
Valentine: 25° Taurus
Amor: 17° Pisces
Eros: 8° aries
Psyche: 3° Virgo
Siva: 3° Pisces
Kaali: 27° Aquarius
Isis: 2° Virgo
Osiris: 28° Leo
Union: 27° Aquarius
Destiny: 21° Cancer

Draconic:

Sun: 1° Sagittarius
Moon: 4° Capricorn
MErcury: 22° Scorpio
Venus: 18° Sagittarius
Mars: 5° Scorpio
Jupiter: 17° Libra
Saturn: 24°Virgo
Uranus: 11° Aries
Neptune: 27° Gemini
Pluto: 22° Aries

Chiron: 23° Libra
Juno: 6° Capricorn
Karma: 22° Sagittarius
VAlentine: 9° Capricorn
Amor: 1° Scorpio
Eros: 22° Scorpio
Psyche: 17° Aries
Siva: 17° Libra
Kaali: 11° Libra
Isis: 16° Aries
Osiris: 12° Aries
Union: 11° Libra
Destiny: 5° Pisces

PERSON A:

TROPICAL:

Sun: 1° Capricorn
Moon: 29° Aries
Mercury: 16° Sagittarius
Venus: 11° Capricorn
Mars: 10° Libra
Jupiter: 3° Leo
Saturn: 24° Pisces
Uranus: 25° Virgo
Neptune: 24° Scorpio
Pluto: 21° Virgo
NN: 16° Taurus

Chiron: 22° Pisces
Juno: 14° Leo
Karma: 4° Leo
Valentine: 14° Aries
Amor: 4° Sagittarius
Eros: 7° Capricorn
Psyche: 16° Virgo
Siva: 19° Virgo
Kaali: 3° aries
Isis: 9° Sagittarius
Osiris: 16° Sagittarius
Union: 17° Capricorn
Destiny: 9° Libra

Draconic:

Sun: 15° Scorpio
Moon: 14° Pisces
Mercury: 1° Scorpio
Venus: 26° Scorpio
Mars: 25° Leo
Jupiter: 18° Gemini
Saturn: 9° Aquarius
Uranus: 10° Leo
Neptune: 9° Libra
Pluto: 6° Leo

Chiron: 7° Aquarius
Juno: 29° Gemini
Karma: 19° Gemini
Valentine: 29° Aquarius
Amor: 19° Libra
Eros: 22° Scorpio
Psyche: 1° leo
Siva: 4° Leo
Kaali: 18° Aquarius
Isis: 24° Libra
Osiris: 1° Scorpio
Union: 2° Sagittarius
Destiny: 24° Leo

posted November 23, 2007 02:28 PM              

Person C (her) - Person B (him):

Her Sun opposite his dr Neptune (1)
Her Moon conjunct his SN (1)
Her Mercury opposite his dr Neptune (1)
Her Venus conjunct his dr Moon (3)
Her Venus conjunct his dr Juno (1)
Her Venus conjunct his dr Valentine (2)
Her Jupiter conjunct his Chiron (3)
Her Uranus opposite his Venus (2)
Her Uranus conjunct his dr Mars (3)
Her Uranus conjunct his dr Amor 81)
Her Pluto opposite his Mercurfy (2)
her Pluto opposite his dr Uranus (1)
her Pluto conjunct his dr Kaali (1)
her Pluto opposite his dr Osiris (2)
her Pluto conjunct his dr Union (1)
her IC conjunct his Mercury (3)
her IC conjunct his Eros (3)
her Chiron conjunct his dr Pluto (1)
her Chiron opposite his dr Chiron (2)
her Vertex conjunct his Destiny 81)
her Karma opposite his dr Venus (1)
her Juno conjunct his Amor (0)
her Valentine opposite his Valentine (3)
her Valentine conjunct his dr Sun (3)
her Amor conjunct his dr Sun (2)
her Eros conjunct his Destiny (1)
her Psyche opposite his Uranus (2)
her Psyche conjunct his Kaali (2)
her Psyche opposite his Osiris (3)
her Psyche conjunct his Union (2)
her Siva conjunct his Neptune (2)
her Isis conjunct his Juno (3)
her Isis conjunct his Valentine (0)
her Osiris conjunct his Juno (2)
her Osiris conjunct his Valentine (1)
her Union conjunct his dr Amor (1)
her Destiny conjunct his Destiny (3)
her dr Sun conjunct his Sun (1)
her dr Sun opposite his dr Jupiter (1)
her dr Sun conjunct his dr Psyche (1)
her dr Sun opposite his dr Siva (1)
her dr Mercury conjunct his Sun (1)
her dr Mercury opposite hsi dr Jupiter (1)
her dr Mercury conjunct his dr Psyche (1)
her dr Mercury oposite his dr Siva (1)
her dr Venus opposite his dr Chiron (3)
her dr Mars opposite his dr Saturn (1)
her dr Jupiter opposite his dr Moon (2)
her dr Saturn opposite his Venus (3)
her dr Saturn opposite his Karma (1)
her dr SAturn conjunct his Mars (2)
her dr Chiron opposite his saturn (1)
her dr Juno opposite his dr Moon (3)
her dr Juno opposite his dr Juno (1)
her dr Juno oposite his dr Valentine (2)
her dr Karma opposite his Mercury (1)
her dr Karma opposite his Eros (1)
her dr Valentine conjunct his Mars (3)
her dr Valentine ocnjunct his Amor 81)
her dr Eros opposite his Karma (3)
her dr Psyche opposite his dr Venus (3)
her dr Siva conjunct his Jupiter (2)
her dr Siva opposite his Pluto (3)
her dr Siva opposite his Psyche 82)
her dr Siva conjunct his Siva (2)
her dr Siva opposite his Isis (3)
her dr Siva conjunct his dr Destiny (0)
her dr Union conjunct his SN (3)
her dr Destiny conjunct his Neptune (1)

Person C - Person A:

her Sun opposite his dr Juno (3)
her Mercury opposite his dr Juno (3)
her Moon conjunct his dr Kaali (0)
her Venus conjunct his Eros (0)
her Mars conjunct his Amor (2)
her Mars conjunct his Isis (3)
her Jupiter conjunct his dr Moon (2)
her Saturn opposite his Union (0)
her Uranus opposite his Moon (3)
her Uranus conjunct his dr Mercury (1)
her Uranus conjunct his dr Osiris 81)
her Neptune conjunct his Kaali (3)
her Pluto conjunct his Mars (0)
her Pluto conjunct his Destiny (1)
her Pluto conjunct his dr Neptune (1)
her NN conjunct his Isis (2)
her ASC conjunct his Isis (1)
her IC conjunct his Kaali (2)
her Chiron opposite his dr Amor 82)
her Chiron opposite his dr Isis (2)
her Karma opposite his Mercury (1)
her Karma opposite his Osiris (1)
her Karma conjunct his dr Jupiter (1)
her Karma conjunct his dr Karma 82)
her Juno opposite his Psyche (1)
her Juno opposite his Siva (2)
her Juno conjunct his dr Moon (3)
her Valentine conjunct his dr Venus 82)
her Amor conjunct his Amor (1)
her Amor conjunct his dr Union (1)
her Psyche opposite his dr Mars (0)
her Psyxche opposite his dr Destiny (1)
her Siva conjunct his SN (1)
her Siva conjunct his dr Sun (0)
her Kaali opposite his Mercury (3)
her Kaali opposite his Osiris (3)
her Isis conjunct his Venus (2)
her Isis conjunct his Eros (2)
her Osiris conjunct his Venus (3)
her Osiris conjunct his Eros (1)
her Union opposite his MOon (1)
her Union conjunct his dr Mercury (1)
her Union conjunct his dr Osiris (1)
her dr Sun conjunct his dr Valentine (2)
her dr Mercury conjunct his dr Valentine (2)
her dr Sun opposite his dr Amor (3)
her dr Mercury opposite his dr Amor (3)
her dr Moon opposite his Amor (3)
her dr Moon opposite his Isis (2)
her dr Venus conjunct his MOon (3)
her dr Mars conjunct his Saturn (1)
her dr Mars oppoiste his Uranus (0)
her dr Mars conjunct his Chiron (3)
her dr Jupiter opposite his Sun (2)
her dr Uranus opposite his dr Mars (3)
her dr Uranus opposite his dr Destiny (2)
her dr Neptune conjunct his Kaali (3)
her dr Pluto opposite his dr Psyche (1)
her dr DSC conjunct his dr Uranus (3)
her dr Chiron conjunct his Juno (3)
her dr Chiron opposite his dr Saturn (2)
her dr Vertex conjunct his dr Sun (3)
her dr Juno opposite his Eros (0)
her dr Karma conjunct his Mars (3)
her dr Karma conjunct his Destiny (2)
her dr Karma conjunct his dr Neptune (2)
her dr Valentine opposite his pluto (3)
her dr Valentine opposite his Psyche (2)
her dr Valentine opposite his Siva (1)
her dr Amor conjunct his Saturn (2)
her dr Amor opposite his Uranus (3)
her dr Amor opposite his Pluto (1)
her dr Amor opposite his Siva (3)
her dr Amor conjunct his Chiron (0)
her dr Psyche opposite his Mercury (1)
her dr Psyche opposite his Osiris (1)
her dr Psyche conjunct his dr Jupiter (3)
her dr Kaali opposite his Kaali (0)
her dr Isis conjunct his Moon (0)
her dr Isis opposite his dr Mercury (2)
her dr Isis opposite his dr Osiris (2)
her dr Osiris conjunct his Moon (1)
her dr Osiris opposite his dr Mercury (3)
her dr Osiris opposite his dr Osiris (3)
her dr Union conjunct his dr Kaali 82)
her dr Destiny conjunct his SN (2)
her dr Destiny conjunct his dr Sun (1)

What impression do you get from the astrological connection?

posted November 24, 2007 06:31 AM            

I'd add to this, but you already know I think A,B, and C's relationship is very karmic. It is interesting to look at the synastry chart as a whole. It makes me believe it even more so.

The big one that jumped out at me as karmic interplay is the second chart. Person A's Chiron and Saturn (in Pisces, and in the 12th) square the Sun and mercury (are the suns conjunct?) of person C. Then Their sun and Merc square A's Pluto, Psyche, Siva. In my experience, all very deep connections! Person A definitely has a spiritual influence on Person C and vice versa.

I can't remember if you ever posted a multi-composite because I'm no expert at reading them, but it may be interesting to get some feedback on that from others.

posted November 24, 2007 08:48 AM              

why do you think the synastries are amazing?

Eighth Moon,

"The big one that jumped out at me as karmic interplay is the second chart. Person A's Chiron and Saturn (in Pisces, and in the 12th) square the Sun and mercury (are the suns conjunct?) of person C."
Yes, I also noticed that there`s a T-square of Chiron / Saturn - Uranus and Sun/Mercury. And the Sun/Mercury conjunction of Person C becomes the focal point of this T-square, and not only that Sun / Mercury are almost exactly on the Galactic Center and conjunct Transit Pluto at the moment.

I don`t know if the Sun`s are conjunct each other. The orb is 4°16. Would you still call it a conjunction?

" Then Their sun and Merc square A's Pluto, Psyche, Siva."
Well, I think the orbs are a bit off. Sun / Mercury is 26°, while Pluto is 21°, Psyche is 16° and Siva is 19°.

"Person A definitely has a spiritual influence on Person C.
Yes. definitely.

" and vice versa. "
not sure about that though.

remember if you ever posted a multi-"composite because I'm no expert at reading them, but it may be interesting to get some feedback"
I have no idea how to interprete it either, so maybe someone could have a look at the multicomposite?