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29thDegree
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posted November 23, 2007 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 29thDegree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can someone tell me what they think the Jupiter conjunct Pluto in December will mean for me? I read about the conjunction a long time ago on cafeastrology.com. On her yearly predictions for aries 3rd decanate it said we will experience (those born between the 18th-20th) something new that we haven't experienced before with pluto trine sun etc. She listed a generalized description like I will have a choice which way to go and you only live once...and so on. So, please if anyone would like to guess what it might be, because I can't. I tried looking at the house description/sign it will be in/location, but I am still clueless.

So, at the time of the conjunction next month it will be sextile my asc., trine my 7th house cusp/aries sun, conjunct my 3rd house cusp, etc.

If anyone would like to make a prediction it would greatly be appreciated. Birth info: 4-19-1979/Oklahoma city, OK/7:02 p.m.

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Azalaksh
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posted November 23, 2007 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please see this:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/015528.html

Pluto changing houses is a big thing!! Pluto will soon move into my 5th house.....
Moving into your house of communication, short journeys, brothers & sisters, education..... and trining your Sun in the 7th house of partnerships, open enemies etc. -- what do you think possible scenarios could be??

~ Zala

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29thDegree
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posted November 23, 2007 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 29thDegree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did read that thread the other day. It was really interesting--that thread had information that I had not found anywhere else. It offered a lot of descriptions I hadn't thought about.

But, I still don't know what it means for me in my natal. I have already thought about the houses that the conjunction falls in, but I am so new to interpreting things that I only can see it in fragments not in a whole picture...does that even make sense. So, that is why I thought someone with more experience than me could get a better picture of what it means for me.

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Azalaksh
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posted November 23, 2007 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
29th ~

Glad you found that other thread of value
Here’s some more reading:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008521.html

I haven’t done up your chart at astro.com, but might I make a suggestion?? You’ve looked over your chart and are feeling somewhat confused, yes?? The “cookbook interps” can be a big help, as they give you a foundation for moving on into self-examination of your placements and transits. All those lists of Meanings – planet in sign/planet in house/sign in house – are the essential footing for you to add your intuition to. No one here knows how emotionally mature you are, what experiences have shaped you, or how you might cope with a given transit – for instance, whether you are open to change, or frightened/fighting/running from change. I don’t think anyone can really “predict” what will happen to you….. there could be as many as a dozen different potential scenarios, with more emphasis brought into the main configuration by the faster-moving Inner planet transits and the aspects *they* make to the Pluto/Jupiter to Sun trine.

I’ve found the following blurb from Steven Forrest’s “The Changing Sky” very helpful as to what you might expect from Astrology ~

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Life is a vast, ironic, mysterious whole, and most attempts to break it down into its components are intriguing intellectual exercises at best and vain self-deception at worst. Any such analytical systems, whether we call them religions or sciences, can be judged only by their practical usefulness and never by their ultimate truthfulneses. That final, all-pervasive Truth can be witnessed perhaps, but never precisely described. No words or ideas could ever be powerful enough. At least that is the way it looks to me.

One such arbitrary division of experience has proven to be very practical in helping me organize my understanding of predictive astrology. It is the notion that the process of life goes on at three distinct levels. The first and most obvious is the physical level. This comprises all that we do and everything that we might choose to call “reality” – trips to Europe, the endings and beginnings of relationships, meetings with “tall dark strangers.”

The second level is emotional and psychological. Thoughts and feelings are the substance of this dimension – all the inner, subjective reactions we might have to the actual events on level one. We quit a job; that’s a fact, a level-one experience. But how do we feel about it? Scared? Elated? Inspired to new heights? Insecure? That’s level two.

Finally, on level three, we find issues of meaning and purpose. We can refer to this as the spiritual level, though we need not think of ourselves as being particularly “spiritual” to grasp it. One way to come to terms with level three is to imagine that we are reflecting back on personal events of many years ago. What ultimate significance did those events possess? How did they help us to become what we are today? What we’re getting at in level three is a sense of how given events fit into our overall pattern of development. Typically, such reflection inserts into our memory of those events a level of self-awareness that did not exist in us then. “Mommy didn’t hug us much, but she would always feed us candy when we were good.” At the time, we felt happy to be given the candy. Twenty years later, level three awareness might arise, helping us to understand how the Love-Equals-Food equation has contributed to our pattern of compulsive overeating. We seem to stand outside ourselves, grasping the patterns of our lives – and that’s the essence of the third, or spiritual, level.

Astrology is fabulously accurate at predicting what happens on level three. That is its real purpose and its ultimate strength. Above all, astrology is a study of meaning – and meaning exists only in the spiritual dimension. Working on that level, a predictive astrologer can approach 100 percent accuracy, although in practice the symbolism involved is often incredibly subtle and human error takes its toll. What am I supposed to be learning here? What is the broad purpose of this event in the overall plan of my personal development? How will I look back on this moment two or three decades from now? Those are the questions we ask on level three, and if we want to understand our lives from that perspective, we can seek no stronger an ally than a sound knowledge of astrological symbolism.

Moving back to level two, the dimension of emotion, the accuracy of predictive techniques falls off dramatically. It is still significant, but not nearly so precise as the descriptions available on level three. How might a person feel about facing those spiritual issues? There is a lot of room here for human differences. An astrological event, for example, might arise involving the planet Saturn, always a sure sign that the spiritual lesson will touch on the need for practical, self-disciplined responses to concrete reality. One person might react with renewed personal resolve, self-respect, and determination. Another might experience a sense of inadequacy, followed by feelings of defeat and despair. The lesson itself is in the category of “fate,” but the emotional response is something we create ourselves and for which we must take personal responsibility. But what is the nature of the actual event which the passage of Saturn triggers? On level two, such a question is of no concern – here we are only interested in feelings and attitudes, not in what “actually happens.”

Level one, the physical, is the least predictable of the three. What outward action will the individual take in response to a passing astrological configuration? Certainly, some of that is determined by feelings arising on level two, and they themselves are unpredictable. But even if the feelings are understood, there is still enormous uncertainty. To predict which action a person will take in response to a spiritual question is futile. We might be right every now and then, but we will be wrong a great deal of the time. Predicting how someone will feel is a bit safer, but even there we will often be surprised. People are frequently far more resourceful and resilient under pressure than we might expect. It is only in predicting the nature of the spiritual issues people are facing that we can achieve dependable levels of accuracy – and significantly, it is there that we can best help a person to grow in self-knowledge and happiness.

The tragedy of astrology’s history is its obsession with level one, the dimension of action. Even its victories in that department seem pitiful in the light of the opportunities missed. It’s as if Albert Einstein had decided to be a baseball player.


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29thDegree
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posted November 23, 2007 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 29thDegree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great post!!!

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