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NAM
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posted November 24, 2007 11:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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patisserie
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posted November 24, 2007 11:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know, coming from a Sunny place, you don't sound so sunny.

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posted November 24, 2007 11:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Azalaksh
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posted November 24, 2007 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nelly ~

I’m sad to hear you’re feeling that way
Helping people find themselves could be quite rewarding and fulfilling.
But you are feeling used….. like someone unfairly took from you without giving anything back??
Or did you give too much of yourself and your time, too soon into the association??
What type of friendships/relationships were these??
Is it a matter of misjudging what type of person they were at the beginning of the association, or finding out later that they were not what they appeared??

“Will it ever stop?” Well, you are in control of the way you allow people to assert their will over what you do/think and don’t include you in the equation…..
I don’t really see you as a “doormat” Nelly – you’re a Cardinal sign, hon!! You don’t just roll over, give up and say “do what you will with me, take what you want from me, it’s OK” do you??

Perhaps it may have something to do with this: What expectations did you have about these people who make you feel used??

Hope you feel better soon,
Zala

PS: I just saw what you wrote about "expectations" -- this sounds like the area that's giving you trouble.....
And I don't believe that anyone is "born to lose".....

Here's a little something for luck

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NAM
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posted November 24, 2007 11:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, Zala, I had to delete, this was making me nervous to have in here.

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patisserie
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posted November 24, 2007 11:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, I don't think I have come acrossed your birth data but I am really curious why you are dealing with what you are dealing with now. Is it okay if you could repeat your info?

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NAM
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posted November 24, 2007 11:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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patisserie
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posted November 24, 2007 12:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure thing, and thanks, I'll see what I can come up with.

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NAM
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posted November 24, 2007 12:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
do you have an e-mail addres? I don't want to share that here, you never know you know...

Edit:thank you

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patisserie
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posted November 24, 2007 12:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll email you within a minute!

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posted November 24, 2007 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nam, YOU'RE NOT A DOORMAT!

maybe it's just your Cancer Moon in a bad mood? Tomorrow will be a better day! Cheer up!

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Happy Dragon
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posted November 24, 2007 12:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
re: what makes me a doormat ..

i wouldn't be suprised if being a doormat is part of being a cancerian sun ..
i.e. cancer is a sympathetic sign .. others recognise this and can take unfair advantage of their sympathetic nature ..
i know that issue has often arisen with cancerian friends ..
and i've had the same issue .. probaly due to my cancerian ascendant ..
except with me .. uranus close to my ascendant can provide doormat users with a rather rude awakening :-)
i like to help folks .. but .. i've got my limits .. and if someone stretches those limits too far ..
well .. all of a sudden .. they find the doormat is suddenly pulled from under their feet ..
http://www.angriesout.com/doormat.htm http://www.oprah.com/tows/pastshows/tows_2002/tows_past_20020613_b.jhtml http://www.wildcelticrose.net/lisasplace/respect.html

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Happy Dragon
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posted November 24, 2007 12:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just noticed your sun and moon are on the cusp .. both at a very close conjunction and conjuct to mercury ..
all in the 7th house .. and square to natal lillith ..
and re that pluto transit mentioned in the other thread .. i missed something ..
transiting pluto is starting to apply by opposition to that threesome .. sun/moon/mercury ..
and starting to square up to natal lillith ..
and pluto looks to be transversing your first house ..
er .. looks like you have a saturn transit on as well .. i.e. starting to square natal venus ..
and IF british summer time was in effect .. that puts transiting saturn exactly conjunct your MC ..
.. sort of fits regarding your posts ..
i.e. with bst in effect that gives you a sag ascendant .. again it seems to fit your posts ..

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NAM
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posted November 24, 2007 12:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good morning happy dragon:
I read the second link you put in there and I can say that I do say "no" when I am going to take time for myself, in other words I am not constantly taking care of everyone, even know some may say I do because I am a single mom with two kids so that can be represented as such.
But, I understand that taking care of myself comes in very different forms, like when I am reading books or sharing with you guys I am in my "me" time.Even taking a shower is obviously my me time because I like to take long showers and "think" or relax in there LOL

What I was taking about was:
For example, when I do something I do it from the heart and I care for others.
When other people do anything for you is because they aree waiting for a certain result they need or want at the time.

I guess this is one of my issues.

We can always talk about money and how it turns people against each other but after working with money for 18 years that doesn't even botehr me anymore.

And then tehre is love, I really don't get how people do not know how to love.

Yes, I know I am all over the place today, I can't make sense of my feelings

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NAM
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posted November 24, 2007 12:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
just noticed your sun and moon are on the cusp .. both at a very close conjunction and conjuct to mercury ..
all in the 7th house .. and square to natal lillith ..
and re that pluto transit mentioned in the other thread .. i missed something ..
transiting pluto is starting to apply by opposition to that threesome .. sun/moon/mercury ..
and starting to square up to natal lillith ..
and pluto looks to be transversing your first house ..
er .. looks like you have a saturn transit on as well .. i.e. starting to square natal venus ..
and IF british summer time was in effect .. that puts transiting saturn exactly conjunct your MC ..
.. sort of fits regarding your posts ..
i.e. with bst in effect that gives you a sag ascendant .. again it seems to fit your posts ..


Does this mean in deed I was born to lose?

oh boy....

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Happy Dragon
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posted November 24, 2007 12:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
** Does this mean in deed I was born to lose? **
no no no no no
it just means your dealing with some tough transits ..
i.e. that weren't apparent when i first looked at your chart ..
the chart i had here had no birth time .. that has now been corrected ..

just to add .. ( looks like it was 6.40 pm gmt time ~ http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ ~ )

funny .. i was trying to add to your other thread 'till i saw the doormat post ..
( am sort of wondering if there are any spanish language sites that might help ..
( i.e. i've been debating whether to type up liz greenes chapter about the sign 'cancer' )

well here ..
re: guitar playing .. these are excellent ..
it's a finger exerciser ..
~ http://www.gripmaster.net/gripmaster/ ~
it makes actually playing loads easier within a week or two ..
i.e. it will gives you loads more control over the physical aspects of playing ..

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NAM
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posted November 24, 2007 01:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, I like that little gadget! it seems it could work wonders.
Like sometimes I go to my kids soccer practices and I sit there and read I could just take my little gadget so while I read I am exercising my fingers as well LOL

Of course, i should just take my guitar and play and who cares about who is there right?
-easier to say than to do- LOL

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NAM
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posted November 24, 2007 01:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as far as the birth time, doesn't astro.com already take those things in consideration when we put in the birth city?

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Happy Dragon
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posted November 24, 2007 01:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NAM .. drop me an email sometime ..
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( given your speedy postings .. that should take about five seconds

i need a food break ..
i.e its dinner time here

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NAM
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posted November 24, 2007 01:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
got it, I'll e-mail right now to make sure I didn't mess it up

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NAM
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posted November 24, 2007 01:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW, I was just getting ready to leave and wash dishes LOL

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Happy Dragon
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posted November 24, 2007 01:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok .. email recieved this end
will reply after dinner ..
and reply address will be different ..
( just to let you know ..

( in addition )
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** as far as the birth time, doesn't astro.com already take those things in consideration when we put in the birth city?**
yes it does .. however i use Kairon .. which is proving to be more accurate regarding ascendant and mc positions ..

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NAM
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posted November 24, 2007 01:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok, you eat I'll wash dishes LOL

You guys make me laugh LOL

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Happy Dragon
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posted November 24, 2007 01:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok .. i'll frizbee the dishes to the 'sunny place'
( it's now raining cats 'n dogs here ..)

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