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sinderlou
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posted November 24, 2007 12:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your thoughts..............

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NeptuneLove
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posted November 24, 2007 12:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IMO Aries moon

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Vintry
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posted November 24, 2007 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Loyal - Cancer
Sincere - Sag

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sinderlou
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posted November 24, 2007 01:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you also explain why you feel this way about these moons? Especially the sag moon.....

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posted November 24, 2007 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, Cancer Moons, they're sooo kind. As long as you're being nice to them and show your true colours, they will stay with you and for you at all times, feed and mother you. YOU will always be the centre of their attention. Isn't that true loyalty?

Sagittarius Moons are not always there like Cancer Moons, the opposite ;) most of the time, they're NOT there! But, it will be absolutely honest to say they are sincere. If something is not right, they will come out and tell you because they like the truth, unlike the opposite sign of Gemini. And they're passionate. The good thing is that their passion does not run deep, it is right on the surface and Sags will happily and sincerely express it. They will speak up, they won't hold back.

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NeptuneLove
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As long as you're being nice to them and show your true colours

So i am nice to you if you`re nice to me...i just don`t like that

You`re right about the Sagittarius Moon though (my brother has it )

I still think Aries Moon people are very friendly and sincere, you might think i`m subjective as this is my Moon sign but...many so called friends suggested to me that it`s unhealthy to be that honest and kind and it will cause me just troubles in the future !

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NeptuneLove
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posted November 24, 2007 01:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also loyalty = Leo

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posted November 24, 2007 02:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think it's the sign the Moon is in that determines emotional loyalty and sincerity, but the aspects and the house placement (how emotions are expressed).

My bro-in-law has his Gemini moon trine his Sun and Venus. He has to be emotionally (moon) and verbally (Gemini) "honest" to feel like he's really being true to himself (Sun) and those he loves (Venus). My brother has his Sag moon in the 7th house - he's *always* there for others, but he prefers tact over the truth. If you were to look at their charts assuming that Gemini is "fickle and lies!" or that Sag is "shallow and blunt!" - you would totally misread them.

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Alecto
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posted November 24, 2007 02:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd have to say.....maybe...... Aries and Taurus

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posted November 24, 2007 03:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really don't think that a sign alone can make someone sincere or loyal. It depends on a lot more than just the sign ... aspects to other planets and house placements usually play a big part as well.

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posted November 24, 2007 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NeptuneLove,

well, yes. If you're nice to me, I will be nice to you too. I think it is like that with people, whether we like it or not. We want to be treated well by people. And if they don't, we avoid them, or we argue or compromise. But ideally, when a person is being nice to us, we want to reciprocate and so we are being nice to that too. What's wrong with that?

This is especially true with Cancer Moons because if you'r not being nice to them, they will still love you and feel for you but they will stop being open and talkative with you, won't share their secrets and lower their trust. You know, still there but not the same. Got to be careful with Cancer Moons, really.

As for Aries Moons, maybe it's just my sensitive Pisces Moon... I find them too harsh in expression. Yes, they will say the truth but very often hurt you with it. Say first, think after. My brother has Aries Moon and even though we're close and I'm used to his "sincerity", at ties it upsets me.. :( He lacks tact.

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posted November 24, 2007 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astralmuse,

I completely agree with you! I didn't mean that all Geminis are liars, no :) Sinderlou asked what Moon is the most loyal and sincere so I answered that question generally speaking. I know it's a lot more complicated than that.

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posted November 24, 2007 04:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No offense meant to you, Vintry. Those are just the moon signs in the two charts I've got that have been most often "misread" by other astrologers as far as loyalty/sincerity/commitment goes.

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posted November 24, 2007 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sincere - Aries
Loyal - Scorpio

Vintri, I find that harshness in expression is more about Mercury. I knew a guy with Pisces Sun and Moon - Aries Mercury. He expressed himself in very cutting and nasty ways. He had a sense of humor that was only funny to him. Everyone else stared mortified, like .."he didn't just say that"
I'm an Aries myself.. and there are Aries Mercuries I've gotten along with.. but having a Pisces Mercury (and Cap moon) in natal, I find their speech thoughtless, at times.

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posted November 24, 2007 05:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
there aren't many things i excel at, but loyalty is definitely one of them. i have taurus moon in the 4th house.

astralmuse, could you clarify a bit about gemini moon? i say i would agree with your sagittarian depiction, but my guy is a gemini moon and we've only been getting to know eachother a few months. he is the first gemini moon i've known, and i have to admit those descriptions do scare me a bit.. i am so curious about your perspective on this cuz i also do not feel this guy is a liar, but it is such a weird moon placement and i can't quite grasp understanding on it..

edit: loyalty i think has a lot to do with fixedy. just for regular ol' steadfastness. i have MOST of my planets in fixed so i am stubborn as it comes.

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posted November 24, 2007 05:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heart Cakes, What's his sun sign?

Maybe it's my moon in Sagittarius. But I find Gemini moons loud, obnoxious, tactless, underhanded, and vicious gossips... especially the men.

Moon in Aries is Sincere? What!! Sagittarius must be somewhere in the chart. This placement is the quickest with a fib, from experience. Really petty lies too. And about things you don't even ask them.

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heart cakes
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posted November 24, 2007 05:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
um.. he's a cancer, but i already saw your opinion on cancer suns just a minute ago..

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NeptuneLove
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posted November 24, 2007 05:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hermes28,

Aries must be somewhere in your chart

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posted November 24, 2007 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Loyal moon: Taurus. If they like you, they'll stick by you through thick and thin.

Sincere moon:
Aries, in the sense that they might say the first thing that comes into their mind, so it's more carelessness than sincerity.

Aquarius moon, who likes to tell the truth for shock effect.

Virgo moon, will you the truth for "your own good". lol.

Sagg: Definitely a truth sayyer.

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Astralmuse
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posted November 24, 2007 06:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh. It's good to know that Pope John Paul II, Sigmund Freud, Kafka, Dosteoyevsky, and Pasteur, were all really a bunch of loud, obnoxious, tactless, underhanded, and vicious gossips.

Picasso (fibber extraordinaire), Saddam Hussein and Jeffrey Dahmer (along with most serial killers) are Moon in Sag, and they are hardly icons of sincerity. There are loyal/disloyal people with every moon sign, and honest/dishonest with every moon sign. It all goes back to the chart as a whole and the aspects and placements and how they interact.

Heart cakes, my bro-in-law has his Gemini moon in the 4th house (home and family) and his sun in the 7th (relationships). He is a dependable, honest, hard-working family man. He isn't the least bit flighty. Gemini moon isn't "bad" - no sign is "bad" taken on its own - so for "truthfulness" you should look at his chart and see how his Moon interplays with his Sun and Mercury and also what houses they are in.

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heart cakes
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posted November 24, 2007 06:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks astralmuse!

interesting you put "truthfulness" there in quotations~ stephen colbert is a gemini moon! maybe he is an excellent example of how gemini moon is slippery.. yet perhaps the substance is in the wandering floaty details.. i just always get this sense of gemini as being sort of ADD with a discerning center..

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Interesting

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Loyal- Cancer (They don't like change and cling to those they love)

Sincere- Sagittarius (Will tell you the truth whether you want to hear it or not.)

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posted November 24, 2007 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is for all curious :)

I've just looked up astrological sources of characteristics in Parker's Astrology book (it's a thick one, like astrological encyclopaedia).

It is a reference list that helps to get to know the sources of characteristics and personality traits. ONLY a rough guide, it says, the astrological significators will often be modified by other astrological indications.

SO

Loyalty = Sun, Moon or ASC in Leo, Capricorn, often Aquarius. Well, this isn't exactly what we all thought so far..

Sincerity is not in the list, but insincerity is :)

Insincerity = negative aspects between Sun, Moon, Mercury-Neptune; sometimes Sun, Moon, ASC in Libra; Sun, Moon, ASC in Virgo. To me that means that opposite signs to Libra and Virgo are sincere: Aries (most of you mentioned that one) and Pisces.

There are many other charachteristics, so if anyone wants to know about anyone of them, let me know.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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Most "loyal":

Taurus Moon


Most "sincere":

Sagittarius Moon


Most "loyal and sincere":

Leo Moon

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