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Topic: Unfaithfulness represented in synastry?
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GeminiLover75
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posted November 25, 2007 01:01 AM
 
This may not even work, lol, but I've been having some new astrology ideas today... We've had threads before about potential for unfaithfulness in the natal chart - what about in synastry?I'm going on the idea that some relationships could be more likely to lead to unfaithfulness from one or both partners, whereas if you put either of those people in a completely different relationship then they might stay completely faithful. Ideas, anyone? IP: Logged |
writesomething
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posted November 25, 2007 01:07 AM
squares and oppositions with neptune, and any aspects with uranus. IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted November 25, 2007 01:32 AM
What if you have those aspects natally and you don't consider yourself to be an unfaithful person? (I have Venus opposite Neptune, and moon conjunct Uranus and sun opposite Uranus).Hmm. My bf's Venus is opposite my Neptune. Which one of us has the potential to be liar/cheater? Both? IP: Logged |
SagSun
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posted November 25, 2007 05:00 AM
Well, unfaithfulness usually happens when one person is feeling that something's missing in their current relationship. They try to fill that hole with someone else. Generally I'd say a lack of (easy) connections with Venus, Mars and Moon can make someone look elsewhere. Things I'd watch out for:* no aspect between A's Venus and B's Sun, Mars and/or Moon
* no aspect between A's Ascendant and B's Sun or Moon
* stressful aspects between A's Moon/Mars/Saturn and B's Moon/Mars/Saturn IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted November 25, 2007 06:13 AM
Interesting... going now to check several synastry charts for clues. lol  IP: Logged |
etheric distortion
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posted November 26, 2007 03:03 AM
if your referring to a recent "heartbreaker" post you made, I would definitely take heed to the Magi notion that Juno is the ruler of infidelity. I looked at the synastry between the charts in that somewhat recent post of yours, and I definitely noticed more Juno contacts than anything else... P.S. My memory is somewhat sketchy, so, if you don't mind, I would request that you post your B-day, along with the "cheater's " B-Day. Perhaps we could all look at the Juno contacts between the charts. Here is one link that describes a little of what I'm talking about: http://www.magiastrology.com/toomanyjuno.htm IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted November 26, 2007 03:10 AM
I'm not sure if that was me who made the heartbreaker post... unless I've forgotten already? It's very interesting though all the same... and now I need to learn about Juno, lol.  Ok I've just checked. My bf and I don't have any Juno aspects, except that speaking for myself, my progressed Juno is conjunct my natal Venus. IP: Logged |
etheric distortion
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posted November 26, 2007 03:17 AM
your a Gemini right? Isn't learning supposed to be fun for us? ( I'm a Gemini too) IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted November 26, 2007 03:20 AM
Venus in Gemini and Sag rising, so yes I loooove learning. lol And the Scorpio moon makes me want to enquire into *everything*. Not to mention progressed sun and Mercury in Gemini. IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted November 27, 2007 12:18 AM
I know not everyone's into asteroids, but I just learned that the asteroid Fiducia represents trustworthiness and the area of your life that this is most important - and if afflicted, it can represent a person who is either untrustworthy, or a misplacing of trust. Now I'm interested to look this up in a few charts too.  IP: Logged |
Lana29865
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posted November 27, 2007 01:18 AM
That's a new asteroid to me, Fiducia. I immediately checked our chart: my man's Fiducia conjuncts my Sun (0 deg). Now what on earth could that mean? I must admit, asteroids are too much for me at this point ;-)
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heart cakes
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posted November 27, 2007 01:22 AM
fiducia:his trine my sun, mercury and mars, mine conjunct his saturn and DC. i guess this sounds good? what about juno conjunct juno? ours are 1 degree apart. i always thought of this as good.. there is an asteroid called fidelio as well. sounds like it could relate to fidelity? asteroids are a bit much for me too. IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted November 27, 2007 01:45 AM
Those Fiducia aspects sound pretty good. I'm a beginner at asteroids too... I just found Fiducia mentioned in a book when I was at the library today. It could be worth doing a Google search on Fidelio! I found that both my and my bf's Fiducia are unaspected natally, and that my bf's is in the 12th house... uh oh! Ok I just added Fidelio into the chart to see if there's anything interesting... I have Fidelio in Aries in the fifth house conjunct natal Jupiter. He has Fidelio in Taurus conjunct natal Saturn. His Fiducio conjuncts my Fidelio and Jupiter. Ok this looks bad for both of us! I have Fidelia opposite his Uranus, and he has Fiducio opposite my Pluto (but trine my Neptune). I'm confused. lol
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BLKFox
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posted November 27, 2007 01:53 AM
Moon opposite Jupiter and Venus opposite Neptune
& anything in Scorpio----LOLIP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted November 27, 2007 02:26 AM
I'm Venus opposite Neptune with moon and Uranus in Scorpio, and I'm not an unfaithful type. IP: Logged |
A weasel
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posted November 27, 2007 02:50 AM
i'd look for aspects of promiscuous venus/neptune, venus/uranus or even mercury/uranus (for homosexual contacts) affecting 5th house of the *composite* chart, especially if 5th cusps in a water sign or a "duplicitous" sign like gemini.IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted November 27, 2007 03:09 AM
Hmm. Me and my bf have almost all of those:Sun, Venus and Mercury in Gemini, ALL OF THEM opposite Neptune.
Venus trine Uranus
Gemini on 5th house cusp. Venus and Mercury square Uranus in progressed composite. (Strangely enough he thinks I attract attention from women, and I think he attracts attention from men, and it does make us a bit annoyed with each other at times even though we haven't done anything wrong!)
Cancer on progressed composite 5th house cusp.  IP: Logged |
SagSun
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posted November 27, 2007 03:13 AM
Those two asteroids are completely new to me ... of course I had to check out our chart right away.FIDUCIA *his natal Fiducia is in his 2nd house conjunct his Venus, my natal Fiducia is in my 9th house conjunct my Neptune and MC
*his Fiducia sextiles my Sun, opposes my Moon, trines my Mars and Chiron, squares my Pluto
*my Fiducia squares his Moon and Saturn, conjuncts his Neptune and sextiles his Pluto FIDELIO *his natal Fidelio is on his 5th house cusp, my natal Fidelio is in my 12th house
*his Fidelio trines my Mercury and Jupiter and opposes my Venus
*my Fidelio conjuncts his Eros, opposes his Mars and Jupiter and sextiles his Chiron No clue what exactly that means ... but it looks interesting. IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
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posted November 27, 2007 04:14 AM
Interesting! I have no idea how significant these asteroids are at all, but it's certainly interesting to see where they're placed and to find the patterns (if any!). IP: Logged |
EighthMoon
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posted November 27, 2007 05:56 AM
Heartcakes...a little research (contrary to Magi?), shows that Juno conjunct Juno is one of the more common connections in a study of married couples. I posted the link in another synastry thread.Weasel...I've heard that too, about negative Uranus in composite. I had a great link, but the site went MIA!
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posted November 27, 2007 06:34 AM
My SO and I both have Fiducia and Fidelio contacts in synastry (with Moon, Asc, & Venus). Now maybe I can convince him to let me remove the chastity belt when he's out of town. I think it would be difficult to find common indicators of infidelity in synastry b/c we all want different things out of a relationship and then react to not getting them differently. If someone's natal chart shows a very sexual person, but they lack sexual synastry w/ their SO, they may cheat, end the relationship, or adapt. So it's hard to tell which choice they'll make. But the approach I would take is to look at the individual's natal chart to see what they need from a relationship and check if they get that in synastry. IP: Logged |
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posted November 27, 2007 06:43 AM
Hey Jane!  Miss you around here! How go things? I agree about checking the natals! I read the same about Uranus in natals. Although it may just indicate instability or not wanting to make a commitment, rather than cheating! PS) You have to check out the 80's thread in Free For All. Thought you'd get a kick out of those songs! xo,
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heart cakes
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posted November 27, 2007 06:48 AM
oooh, cool 8th moon!! thanks!jane you crack me up so much. and i agree with you too. there are so many potential ways to read an aspect based on the patterns in a chart, so of course that would apply to synastry.. so don't worry gemini lover! the planets are just energy and if you keep it positive, you can make the energy work for you rather than against you.. just figure out what it means in your particular situation and work with it. if you are commited and both are willing, you can make anything work and be very happy! i firmly believe everything happens for a reason so there is always a lesson and a new way to look at things.. just keep your eyes open for what that is and don't worry (i'm a worrier too, so i understand!).. IP: Logged |
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posted November 27, 2007 07:30 AM
8th - Ooh, FFA. A scary new world! I've visited that folder a few times, but never made it a regular thing. I worried that I'd spend too much time there. Watch your suggestion turn me into an addict. I'll be out on the streets, with nothing to my name except a bindle and a laptop, searching for wifi to get my FFA hit.Uranus is lovely. Some astrologers write about that planet like it makes it impossible for the natives to keep their pants on. I think Uranus adds excitement and a need to keep things fresh. I have a strong Uranus natally, and if I were in a relationship that got stuck in a rut, I'd do what I could to spice it up, and if that didn't work, I'd just leave. Cheating requires too much subterfuge for a Uranian. Like you said, they'd rather there not even be a commitment. heart cakes - Exactly, the same aspects can go so many ways. Just look at people with the same chart (biological twins or astrotwins) who are very different people. IP: Logged |
Diandra23
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posted November 27, 2007 09:40 AM
Hi all!Jane - no time no see,how are you? 8th I agree - no neptune/venus or uranus bad aspected can really say that person is goin to cheat or is untrusty. Depends on the person it is,the values,education,path taken in life...so many variables... It is really bad when we look at a sinastry trying to see if there´s such a pattern isnt it? Do you want to find? Why are you looking at it? If so,it means deep inside there´s a doubt thats lying there awaiting some "explanation",possibly derived from an astrological placement I dont agree about the Juno part - isnt suppodes Juno to be looked at "husband/wife"connection? Magi looks at Juno in a very sexual way - on that its true,me and my bf have 7 of those - but never ever a propensy to be unfaithful... About those 2 new asteroids : -my bf has his Fiducia in his 3rd-comunication-oh yes definatelly- and conj his Sun,no stressed - he definatelly is one of the most trustworthy person i know-one of the several virtues i love in him. -About Fidelio,he has it on his 5th...no wonder also - and conj his Mars,Eros and VX! his Fidelity is very conected to the way he expresses love,mainly throw the intimate life...true also! He has his Neptune skuare is Venus-that makes him too idealistic and expecting to much of love - not showing any unfailtfullness on his part.He is also a very Uranian person so he deals well with our stressful Uranian aspects on sinastry. -I have my Fidelio also in 5th,conjuncting my Amor -trine my Fiducia and Eros - similar to his chart in a way -my Fiducia is on my 2nd house-oposing Moon and trines my Amor/Eros/MC- i see myself as a trsutworthy person,but i have the tendency to cover and protect my emotions.so it might say that others usually can thing that i am a bit secretive. My Uranus skuares my venus/sun - im not untrsuty of unfaithfull :for the contrary - im a vIrgo with a Taurus Moon how could I be so ? hihihihi IP: Logged |
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