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soconfused
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posted November 27, 2007 07:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can someone look at my chart and tell me why people always think they can screw me out of money?
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BLKFox
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posted November 28, 2007 05:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces Asc in the first

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posted November 28, 2007 06:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Karma.

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Azalaksh
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posted November 28, 2007 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your screen-name holds a clue too..... the connotation is a disadvantage and I'd bet it's holding you back. Why would you give yourself a "label" like that??
What is your attitude?? Are you shy, open, diffident, eager-to-please, a "soft-touch"??
Perhaps you could imagine yourself with big long lion fangs, ready to sink into anyone who tries to get something from you
You obviously don't like this facet of your personality. Very well then, you are what you think: You are Wolf -- not Sheep!!
Fishies can be slippery, don't commit and give the sharks anything to bite on.
Ask yourself, "Is (whatever it is) worth this sum of money??" before you fork over your cash or credit card.
Every day, spend a few minutes in front of your mirror. Practice saying "No!!"
As a reply to the sharks with smoother manners, practice saying "No Thanks!!"

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soconfused
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posted November 28, 2007 07:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks, but is that a Pisces thing or a 1st house thing?

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soconfused
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posted November 28, 2007 07:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hermes - how do you get karma? I'm a very generous Leo - which I think is why I get screwed - and when I say this I mean , I do freelance work and then people say well, it's not worth this and some other excuse and then don't want to pay me even if I have a contract - they say take me to court


as for my screen name , that is more of my romantic personality - in everyday life I am anything but

But romance to me is so confusing lol


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CoralFrequency
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posted November 28, 2007 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Moon is exactly conjunct my Venus and NN.
Your Venus is conjunct my Asc.
My Mercury is conjunct your NN.
My Jupiter is conjunct your Asc.
My MC is in Pisces.

I had this problem when I was younger but I don't anymore. It might have something to do with Pisces/Neptune - and having a lack of boundaries. I know I've put up boundaries in the last couple of years. It's good to be giving and help people but this should be in good measure. If you get to the point where you feel drained, while the other person is obviously scabbing - not because they need the money but because it's easier to scab.. you have to stop. It's not only bad for you. It's bad for them, because they never learn to be responsible and independent.

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why me?

Simple answer is: You don't say 'NO'. You have to say No sometimes.

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CoralFrequency
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posted November 28, 2007 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just realized Zala said the same thing

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teaologist
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posted November 28, 2007 09:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune in the 8th

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In business matters, you may feel that the primary purpose is the
creation of a system that provides for all according to their
needs, rather than the accumulation of profit at all costs. Your
high ideals in these matters leaves you open to deception by
those whose motivations are somewhat less spiritual. In all
business and financial matters you will need to take care that
everything is open and above board, otherwise you could find your
financial resources being dissolved away.

Saturn in the 2nd

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With Saturn in the 2nd house of your chart, you have a powerful
need to earn what you possess through your own efforts. Even if
you come into money through luck or inheritance, you will feel a
greater sense of satisfaction and self-worth from what you make
through hard work. On the other hand, material wealth may be
hard to come by for most of your life, and only gained through
considerable effort. You will feel insecure when you do not have
it, and insecure when you do, feeling then that it may all be
snatched away from you.

You may have doubts about your own self-worth, feeling that you
have to prove yourself through effort, but the position of Saturn
in the chart shows where we can turn inner doubts and weakness
into strengths. You will eventually gain a sense of inner
security and self-worth based on something that is real and
tangible since you will have proved yourself to yourself.


Moon in the 2nd

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The Moon is in the 2nd house of your chart, the area of life
where we seek material security. The Moon in this house
indicates that past experiences will have resulted in a need for
possessions and material wealth in order to feel comfortable and
at ease with yourself. The fluctuating nature of the Moon,
however, means that your fortunes in this area may be subject to
changes and instability. You may have an emotional attachment to
the things you own, particularly things that are in some way
related to your past or your family. You have probably inherited
your sense of values from your family background, particularly
from your mother.

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soconfused
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posted November 28, 2007 09:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well how do I say no when someone asks me to do a job and says they will pay me?

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soconfused
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posted November 28, 2007 09:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Azalaksh -- beleive me when someone tries to mess with me - I am all Leo - I don't back down at all.

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MUSTANG
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posted November 29, 2007 01:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tealogist: You got the points that jumped out at me. I think this is more the neptune in the 8th opposite the moon/sat conj in the 2nd.

Also notice neptune(deception in the house of other people's money) square mercury in the 6th, with the 6th being your job, merc being communications.

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and then don't want to pay me even if I have a contract - they say take me to court

So take them to court. If you have a contract and satisfied it, you will win. Depending on the amount of money, youn can take them to small claims court where you don't need a lawyer.


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posted November 29, 2007 02:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pisces rising too. I always found it very hard to say no to people. For one, I didn't want to disappoint anyone, and two I was just too naive. I always believed that that everyone was as honest and generous as I am. It took me quite some time to realize that this is simply not the case. Some people set out to screw with others and gain an advantage by using them. I probably will never understand why anyone would do this, but I realized that not everyone is as generous and honest as a Pisces/Leo person (I have no Leo Sun, but a Leo Moon). Even though it goes against our nature, we have to say no sometimes.

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GeminiLover75
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posted November 29, 2007 03:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting, I haven't experienced this so much with money but more with my time and doing things for other people. It got ridiculous! Not too many years ago I got sick of it and learned to say no. I'm a Sag rising so I think it's that 'generosity' thing. More recently it's been issues with me lending people money, people using my stuff, and me not getting it back. I think it's a case of my Sag rising energies combining with my grand water trine... I tend to feel sorry for people or feel bad if I don't help. I think I've learned to be more in control of myself now and say "no" though. There's a person I lent $100 to months ago and I haven't gotten it back - but after asking for it back several times already and knowing that he has money issues and owes money to other people too, here comes my soft side again and I've decided not to ask him for it anymore (because I feel bad! ) and chalk it up to experience.

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Lana29865
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posted November 29, 2007 05:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People also have their own agendas , i.e. there might be nothing about you in particular that makes others want to screw you. My experience is that usually people who deceive someone also try to do it with some others.

Unfortunately, so many of us have to watch carefully not to be screwed one way or the other, whether it's about money or something else.
It's a difficult balance between trust and "healthy" suspicion... And many also learn the hard way, but there's no shame in that.

I wish it was different. They say that you teach people how to treat you, but with occasional business contacts that's not always possible.

Good luck, though.

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soconfused
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posted November 29, 2007 09:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks everyone for your input - now I have to see if I can turn this around

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