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aries sun
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posted November 28, 2007 03:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is the difference between rising and Asc.? The reason I ask is because I have virgo asc. and I thought that that was my rising, but then I was told that I have pisces rising on the asc. virgo. Also, why do some astrologers turn charts 180 degrees?

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jupitersgirl
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posted November 28, 2007 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They are the same thing.

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aries sun
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posted November 28, 2007 04:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If they are the same, then how come I have pisces rising on the asc. virgo, why in two signs and not one? I am confussed now. I did my chart on a software program I have and it says asc. virgo.

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posted November 28, 2007 04:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you left-handed?

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aries sun
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posted November 28, 2007 04:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, I am right handed.

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted November 28, 2007 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Aries Sun,

The rising sign is the cusp of the first house. It is called the Ascendant. That line (really it is a circle, but that's another lesson) crosses from the left side of the chart to the right side. The end of the line on the right side of the chart is called the Descendant.

The astrologer you used isn't using the proper descriptions or definitions or something. Nothing about the sentence you quoted makes sense.

If your Ascendant is Pisces then the Descendant will always be Virgo.

If your Ascendant is Virgo then your Descendent will always be Pisces. That's how it works all through the zodiac.

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Astralmuse
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posted November 28, 2007 04:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An ascendant is the same as the rising sign. You have one ascendant/rising sign. If you are a Virgo rising, your ascendant is Virgo.

I doubt a practicing, competent astrologer told you that you are both a Virgo ascendant and a Pisces rising. They likely said you are a Virgo rising with a Pisces descendant and you misheard.

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aries sun
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posted November 28, 2007 05:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, actually I got my mini astrology reading from an astrologer over email, so I have it in writing what was said.

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Hermes28
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posted November 28, 2007 05:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You were most likely told you have Virgo RISING, and Pisces DESCENDANT.

...or Pisces on your descendant.

As opposites in a circle (360 degrees), they are 180 degrees apart. Thus, if you were to rotate your chart 180 degrees, you would have Pisces RISING, with a Virgo DESCENDANT.

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aries sun
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posted November 28, 2007 05:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Hermes and GEO. Maybe that is what she meant. What is the difference between the asc. verses the dec.? What do they mean? And why do they turn charts?

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Hermes28
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posted November 28, 2007 05:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fellow Virgo rising here.

The Ascendant is your outer image. The way you act in unfamiliar surroundings.

The Descendant is the type of partner you are attracted to (your other half). Not necessarily Pisces, but people fitting those characteristics.

The Ascendant & Descendant are always on opposite sides of the zodiac. Whatever your Ascendant/Rising is, your Descendant will always be the opposite sign.

Opinions differ, but from the way I understand it, your Ascendant is the half of the pie you have in hand, and your Descendant is the other half you need/look for to make yourself whole.

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Azalaksh
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posted November 28, 2007 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aries sun ~

Perhaps you could spend some time looking over some of the myriad Beginning Astrology links here, and studying to understand the basics such as the question in this thread, and THEN bring questions to the board??

This thread has links to everything you could possibly wonder about:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/006272.html

Tim's site is an EXCELLENT place for neophytes to start:
http://www.geocities.com/wilsontctc/index.html

Bob Marks also has it laid out step by step:
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/TOClessons.htm

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CoralFrequency
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posted November 28, 2007 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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CoralFrequency
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posted November 28, 2007 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Based on that..

This is Einstein's chart:

Can you tell me what his Ascendant/Descendant were?

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CoralFrequency
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posted November 28, 2007 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is your chart:

The Asc is in Virgo and the Dsc is in Pisces. If you look up Ascendant/Descendant on google, you'll find a lot of interpretations. 'Ascendant' and 'Rising' always refer to the same thing.

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/dictionary/ascendant.php http://www.astrologyweekly.com/dictionary/descendant.php

http://www.personalreadings.info/Relationshops/The%20Ascendant%20Axis.htm

http://www.artcharts.com/learn_astrology/houses.html

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aries sun
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posted November 29, 2007 07:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Coral, his asc. is cancer and I am guessing that his dec. is gemini?

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posted November 29, 2007 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aries sun,

The "descendant" is always the opposite sign of the Ascendant / rising sign. So for Einstein- he has a Cancer Ascendant / Rising sign and a Capricorn Descendant. Gemini is before Cancer on the astrological wheel and therefore can't be the Descendant when Cancer is rising.

I am a Virgo rising as well and Pisces rules my 7th house (as it is my descendant)

edited to add;

try this websites for information about the aspects (lines) and planetary meanings-
www.astro.com - this site has an interactive chart program that will allow you to click on the line and pulls up an information sheet concerning the planets, signs and aspects.
www.bobmarksastrologer.com - he has astrological lessons listed on his site that will enable you to learn at your own pace

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Taurus80
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posted November 29, 2007 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurus80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey pidaua!

hope everything is well over there for you guys

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pidaua
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posted November 29, 2007 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Taurus .. thank you for asking. We are loving it here in Germany. I posted an update on FFA- in the PIDAUA thread. This place ROCKS!!

How are you doing these days?

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Taurus80
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posted November 29, 2007 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurus80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm doing great Pid

I'm happy you are as well, I didn't know there was a thread in FFA, I'll go check it out

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