posted November 29, 2007 05:30 AM            

What I've found with both of them, is that they are more like their ascendant signs than anyone else I know of - almost like they've rejected the internal battle that their Sun and Moon produces and gone for the independent rising sign in order to feel more at ease. The man, is my sisters ex boyfriend. He has a Sagittarius ASC and you'll never find a more Saggie person in your life! The woman is one of my good friends and she has a Cancer ASC. Kind, caring and nurturing with the tendency to get a bit weepy sometimes - that is the sign that mostly manifests in her.

posted November 29, 2007 05:39 AM              

Scorpio Moon can also shut the world out, so it's not necessarily a placement that invites relationships, although it runs very deep. Whether or not someone is relationship oriented can be seen more in the house placements and aspects, IMO...

posted November 29, 2007 09:32 PM              

Is this what you see?

I am just having a hard time envisioning an overly possessive Aqua!?? Wow!

posted November 30, 2007 08:37 AM              

Also, his freedom needing venus in aqua is squared by uranus, amplifying this need.

posted November 30, 2007 09:01 PM              

My friend says her Scorpio moon sometimes makes her feel things intensely and she hates it. She also has a Cancer asc but she seems more like an Aqua. Her ascendant is more apparent (she's homebody, empathic and nurturing). She likes her freedom & independence but is always in a relationship. She doesn't seem like a Scorpio at all except she's really good at reading people and their motives.

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posted December 02, 2007 10:39 PM              

-40 Square Venus - Midheaven

He is vain and jealous. Both married life and professional life are difficult with such a character.

-14 Square Sun - Midheaven

He lacks an aim in life. He does not face up to problems and his schemes, if any, are impossible for him to realize.

-8 Opposition Mars - Ascendant

He is quarrelsome, critical and violent. His success is obtained by dubious means.

-4 Square Pluto - Ascendant

He imposes his will by force, violence.

-73 Opposition Mercury - Mars

While his spirit is lively, it is also cunning. He often acts without thinking, he throws himself into things and exaggerates - and this can bring certain problems. He is nervous and irascible. He can develop others' ideas, while they hesitate - he never does: he presses on.

-54 Square Venus - Uranus

He looks for new sensations in love and is often unsatisfied by affairs which quickly turn into purely conventional relationships. He likes novelty, adventure, the eccentric: he is frivolous, unstable, unfaithful. Marriage is not for him and, if he does throw himself into this adventure, it will end in divorce, written off as a youthful mistake. As a result of his numerous love affairs, he makes sure his line is continued.

House VII in Cancer

Marriage, a nice little family. The spouse will not always be easy to live with, a little too mad.

Mars in VII

He dominates his associates, colleagues. He is the same in love life, dominating the spouse and this makes for a stormy relationship in prospect.

Sun in I

Forceful personality. He is strong-willed, authoritarian. He is self-confident but is sometimes arrogant. Has a happy childhood. His desire for self-development leads to success and he has a good professional job.

Jupiter in Gemini

Very good education, he is also a good talker. He likes to travel, to write, to increase his knowledge.

Weaknesses: likes to puff himself up with grandiose speeches or fine words. Does not listen to others but likes to be listened to.

Venus in Aquarius

He likes flowery language: he is very sensitive and detests anything vulgar. He appreciates independence in love, but idealizes and embellishes it. He likes to please and will do whatever is necessary for this. While always being frank, he is not always faithful.

Weaknesses: he is unfaithful, because he likes above all to please and will follow through to the end of any adventure that arises. Does not like barriers, likes liberty of action and does not like to account to anyone.

Mercury in Capricorn

Reflective, deep thinker: a fine and vivacious mind. Undertakes lengthy studies or, if circumstances do not allow, will teach himself. A rational person.

Weaknesses: rancor, coldness, malice, and often a pessimist.

Moon in Scorpio

Courageous, brave, independent, not a fearful nature. The type of man who is attracted to sensual erotic women.

Weaknesses: excesses of pleasures of the flesh, sensual delights and sensuality.

THE MAJORITY OF HIS CHART IS NEGATIVE! I ONLY PASTED THE NEGATIVE/SEMI-NEGATIVE TRAITS. CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS??? IS THIS UNREAL? THERE WAS HARDLY ANYTHING POSITIVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS PERSON!

posted December 03, 2007 09:12 AM              

From the chart, it looks to be in the 7th house. Noel Tyl has written a lot of great essays about the effect of natal Saturn retrograde when it comes to relationships.

It can indicate insecurity when it comes to relating to other people as well as making the person doubt their worth and value as a human being.

Because his Saturn is in the 7th house, a lot of this insecurity and doubt will manifest through his relationships with other people. If it were in the 10th house instead, he might have issues with work, making him have a fear of failure, or a fear of success. Any success he did achieve would ring hollow. He might also end up being his own worst enemy. The mentality of:

"Why bother trying, I'm just going to f*ck it up anyways."

Until he acknowledges his insecurities he will continually find himself getting into relationships with women he knows won't last, women he doesn't really care about. If he does find himself falling for a woman, he will begin to show her the worst bits of himself to "scare her off". This behavior is common not just with people who have saturn rx, saturn in the 7th, venus square uranus, but also people who have moon in scorpio.

posted December 03, 2007 09:08 PM              

With regard to this "freak out" moment...

posted December 03, 2007 10:14 PM              

Let's say you figure everything out. You know all his little tricks. Eventually you win him over.

Congratulations.

You just won a sh*tty boyfriend.

Sometimes when people are evasive or mysterious we fill in their blanks for them. Unfortunately, we can be too kind when we're filling in these blanks.

posted December 03, 2007 10:41 PM              

I can definitely be too nice for my own good sometimes - often disregarding the fact that I may be taken advantage of

I am not actually witnessing that specific scenario - I don't believe I would let things go that far. And, you're right, the only thing I would win is a ****** boyfriend.

I am just having a very difficult time understanding what is going on with this Aquarian man. The only other Aquarian man I have had the pleasure of knowing was my first love - but he was slightly different.

posted May 23, 2013 01:08 AM            

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Originally posted by LeoPisCan:
Maybe, maybe he's doing it because he's not into you. I don't see the point in playing a game with a guy.

Let's say you figure everything out. You know all his little tricks. Eventually you win him over.

Congratulations.

You just won a sh*tty boyfriend.

Sometimes when people are evasive or mysterious we fill in their blanks for them. Unfortunately, we can be too kind when we're filling in these blanks.

Don't judge the situation by what you THINK he might mean. ONLY go by what he's given you. ONLY define the relationship by the clear behavior YOU'VE witnessed first-hand.

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I'm sorry, but I lol'd at this XD.
Not a laughing matter though. Certainly not. The is very good advice. Sorry for the rez btw, just had to say that.

posted May 23, 2013 01:31 AM            

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Originally posted by SweetCappie:

My ex is a nut. Don't know his rising sign. He tried to hide his intensity most of the time and it barely came out unless he thought he was losing me. He would call everyday, get a little jealous but was very subtle with it. Don't think he was possessive. Very affectionate in private and sex was very important to him. He was passionate once in a while. He is very vindictive and he always played manipulative games when he wanted to be in control. Very honest. Didn't like being alone so always jumped from relationship to the next. He was sensitive but hid it beneath an "i don't care, f da world" facade. Acted childish when he didn't get his way. Hated communicating about relationship issues so he would ignore them and pretend all was okay. Didn't like talking about feelings and held back. Acted cold and mean when I showed my jealousy. Was very secretive and didn't like his privacy invaded. He Stalked me once he knew I moved on. He talked poorly of his mother and never allowed me to meet her.
The Libra with Scorp moon was very similar including stalking except he wasn't honest.

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