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Peri
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posted November 30, 2007 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wanted to share

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How we turn people off with our planets
Most relationship don't work out, and as much as we'd like to blame the other person, we can only change ourselves. The planets in our charts symbolize the variety of urges we have as human beings: to nurture, create, assert, defend, escape, and so on. Although the expression of any planet can be beneficial, our planets can also be alienating to other people.

Only the challenges of Jupiter through Pluto are listed below, because it is often the hard angles they make to the personal planets (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars) that bring out their dark sides.

Jupiter

As the big planet, Jupiter has a tendency to exaggerate. With challenging aspects, Jupiter can lead to arrogance, evangelism, going beyond what is necessary, overlooking the details, neglecting the fine print in favor of the big picture. Nobody wants to be lectured or proselytized to. And coming off as too big for one's britches is a turn-off.

Saturn

Fear, a sense of inferiority ... we all have our deficiencies, and that's OK. What counts is how we work with them. All too often, Saturn encourages us to build walls of defensiveness to cover over our feelings of not being enough. We become rigid, inflexible. Or we overcompensate to fix our flaws, only to become a workaholic. Discipline is a virtue, but when you deny your vulnerability, it's hard for people to feel close to you.

Uranus

The world need revolutionaries. Otherwise, life would be stagnant and most people would be living under the dominion of monarchs. But sometimes you rebel just so you can differentiate yourself, taking up a cause and provoking people so much that you end up alienating them. It doesn't matter if you're pro-life or an animal rights activitst, there's a way to fight the power without frightening off your friends.

Neptune

Great art and music is often pulled out of thin air, inspired by the muses and the gods. However, Neptune's propensity for escapism can lead you to lose yourself in drink or virtual worlds, neglecting your daily responsibilities. You may not be hitting rock-bottom with your addiction to crack or massively multiplayer online games, but your unavailability makes intimacy an uphill battle.

Pluto

The lord of the underworld can be an agent of transformation, bringing psychological and physical toxins to the surface to enable healing and regeneration. However, Pluto can also be violating and controlling, digging into other people's dirt and manipulating others for his own gain. Although insight into the human psyche and the ability to root out secrets can be used for good, these same talents used inappropriately can betray trust and make people feel like they've been metaphorically raped.



http://jeffreykishner.com/astrology/love/2007/05/how-we-turn-people-off-with-our-planets.html

What challenging aspects in your own chart sabotage your relationship success?

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alvarella777
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posted November 30, 2007 05:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What challenging aspects in your own chart sabotage your relationship success?

For me this would be my natal VENUS square NEPTUNE. It's horrible - "sabotage" is the right expression!

At first, during the "romantic chasing"-phase, the Venus/Neptune-square exaggerates everything - makes everything rosier than it really is - my own expectations and hopes grow higher and higher. I DO have the gift to play the romance-thing quite cleverly, intensely, intriguingly and all ... the gift to make myself seem irresistible, too.

But, then, quite soon ... I come back down to earth (that is: to reality) - and I find it hard not to be disappointed then, either by "the guy" or "the relationship". The other side (the guy) senses that - feels insecure - which makes me even more insecure ... and what was once rose-coloured gets quite complicated and becomes "heavy work", very soon.

It's illusion - then desillusion - and both in very (!) large measure. I HATE that aspect, it really "sabotages" my love life over and over again. Although I know about it ... I can't help it.

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posted December 01, 2007 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Peri, you always post something interesting! I bookmarked that site for further exploration. The posts I have read so far have all been well written and intelligent. Jeffery appears to be golden as well. Thank you!
    As to your question, all of the planets as I have a square infested chart. Luck has given me a packed 9H. So using astrology intellectually as a psychological tool to crack the DNA code of self defeating behavior makes utter sense to me. And the article's focus on the slower transformational planets is a good approach. The more comprehension I attain about the planets both natally and transiting, the more I realize the importance of soul growth thru their individual lessons.
Do we want to stay as we are? Or do we reach for who we can be? Thanks again.

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posted December 01, 2007 10:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What challenging aspects in your own chart sabotage your relationship success?

Moon square Saturn ... I find it extremely hard to open up to people and share my feelings. It takes me a very long time to show someone how I truly feel about them. And when I finally do open up, it sometimes is too late.

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