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stillatlarge Newflake Posts: 16 From: TX Registered: Nov 2010	posted December 08, 2007 10:32 AM I'm not trying to offend anybody I just realized this and wondered if anyone else had noticed it. Every single one of them I've known personally has a weight problem. EVERY ONE and I attract them like flies so I've known a few. In fact I know far more chubby Aqua females than Cancerian even. Even aquarius PLACEMENTS seem to influence weight. The only exception to this would be Jennifer Aniston. Even Oprah goes from fat to thin a couple of times a year. I wonder if an Aqua moon could have that effect too... IP: Logged
hippichick Knowflake Posts: 588 From: Registered: May 2009	posted December 08, 2007 10:46 AM The term "weight problem" is a judgment statement. There are pleanty of women AND men out there who are very comfortable with their weight, tho their weight may not be what society says it should be. I have seen many women and men (as a matter of fact 2 Aquas come to mind now) that are not societally skinny, they both have a few extra pounds, one female and one male and they are two of the most self-assured individuals that I know of. I am a RN and I surely can appreciate the health implications of extra baggage, but if someone wants to carry around extra pounds let them. Now, Aquas. I think if you are noticing Aquas with weight "issues" maybe you are seeing an individual who does not care what the rest of the world thinks, and THAT is quite the Aqua mindset! And I do not think weight issues can be isolated to one sun sign. I am not promoting obesity, god knows I have busted my back caring of very obese patients, I just tend to not judge others for their choices in life. IP: Logged
jassen unregistered	posted December 08, 2007 11:09 AM The only Aquarian female I know is practically microscopic. And she has moon in Libra. IP: Logged
*Asterisk** Newflake Posts: 4 From: U.S. Registered: May 2009	posted December 08, 2007 11:38 AM One aquarian I know was bulimic. And two others are just slim. ------------------ Faust: [dancing with the young witch] A lovely dream I dreamt one day I saw a green-leaved apple tree, Two apples swayed upon a stem, So tempting! I climbed up for them. The Pretty Witch: Ever since the days of Eden Apples have been man's desire. How overjoyed I am to think, sir, Apples grow, too, in my garden. (1992 Greenberg translation, lines 4216 – 4223 www.wikipedia.org // Article - "Lilith") IP: Logged
augentier unregistered	posted December 08, 2007 11:38 AM The few Aquarian girls I have been friends with have had nice bodies, thin & toned. The guys have been the same way, too. IP: Logged
stillatlarge Newflake Posts: 16 From: TX Registered: Nov 2010	posted December 08, 2007 12:43 PM I think I explained I wasn't making a judgment. Just an observation. I have aqua moon and I wondered if the struggles with weight could be attributed to that instead of the Cancer ascendant, Mars and Venus. And I haven't known any Aqua fems that don't care what people think about it-quite the opposite. They all seem keenly aware of the difference in the way people treat them when they're overweight vs. thin. IP: Logged
Hexxie unregistered	posted December 08, 2007 12:43 PM I know bucket fulls of Aquas (hmmm aqua - water - bucket?? I must not be awake yet!) None of them have any weight problems. All the ones I know are quite svelte. I even have 2 very close friends who are Aqua Sun and Moon and they are quite disciplined (fixed sign) - one focuses on working out regularly and the other focuses on eating really well. Oh and I have an Aqua Moon and I am quite small in size. I guess all of this also depends on what your opinion of 'chubby' is too. Perhaps if you looked at these people's charts there would be something else that is the tie to weight problems than just the sign Aquarius. ------------------ `Who are you?' said the Caterpillar. This was not an encouraging opening for a conversation. Alice replied, rather shyly, `I--I hardly know, sir, just at present-- at least I know who I WAS when I got up this morning, but I think I must have been changed several times since then.' ~Lewis Carroll IP: Logged
Azalaksh Knowflake Posts: 982 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Apr 2009	posted December 08, 2007 01:12 PM In my personal experience, I have a friend who's an Aqua Sun/Mercury/Venus with Cancer Rising and Moon in Leo in the 1st. My description of her figure is "voluptuous" -- the definition/embodiment of "hourglass" hippichick & Hexxie ~ I'm sure you're not trying to offend anyone, stillatlarge – but it is disappointing that in American society anything over 25 BMI is defined as a “problem,” a characterization you apparently agree with (??). And imho, even an observation has rules, parameters, and boundaries, ie “judgment.” It is extremely difficult to make observations free from the unconscious biases of our cultural/societal conditioning. I have/had a friend who works out regularly at the gym and thinks any woman who’s not 5’6” and 125 lbs like her (with appropriate weight adjustments for different heights) has a “problem” and is to be pitied – her opinion is: 'after all, it’s your own fault if you’re “overweight” and you should do everything you can so that you can be “attractive” again'….. Translation: “you’re still my friend, but you need to do whatever it takes to get back to ‘normal’”, which is pretty much the same thing you said: quote: They all seem keenly aware of the difference in the way people treat them when they're overweight vs. thin. No wonder so many young girls are bulemic/anorexic with the prevailing attitudes towards appropriate body sizes in this culture..... (stifles long rant about American values/judgmentalism for another day) Of course, these women you speak of who are 'keenly aware of the difference in the way people treat them' could be overemphasizing peoples' reactions to them, because THEY feel bad about THEMSELVES because they're not living up to the IDEAL they hold in their minds -- an ideal that we're constantly made aware of in this society in subtle and not-so-subtle ways..... Perhaps the "Aqua woman = chubby" hypothesis is flawed..... perhaps making astrological generalizations about physical human bodies is futile..... I have a biiiiig problem with "stereotypes" -- "archetypes" I can handle, but "label, typecast, pigeonhole" I personally rebel against. Stereotypes LIMIT us!!!!! People are more than the sum of their parts. And as humans we don't yet understand the workings and integration of all those separate parts. Taking something apart, naming and codifying each piece as to its nature and function, then putting it back together with an eye toward blending the code-names of all the parts is exactly what we do in Astrology, is it not? Yet does it really help us get any closer to an understanding of the entire organism? And the entire organism is what is involved when one is "overweight" -- not one or two (or more) astrological placements or aspects..... IP: Logged
heart cakes unregistered	posted December 08, 2007 02:02 PM i am a fan of chubby and think it is sexy.. i am an aquarius and am slightly chubby though fit into the perameters set out by society as "normal". but i think my chubbiness is either sag rising (expansiveness of jupiter) or taurus moon. most aquarians i've known have tended toward the slimmer side. IP: Logged
bluegreyeyes Newflake Posts: 15 From: New York Registered: May 2009	posted December 08, 2007 02:19 PM I'm aqua female. I'm slimmer (5'8" and 130 lbs...size 6/8), but my weight is definitely an issue for me. I've been bulimic, and I am extremely insecure about my weight... so I guess I would qualify as having "weight issues"?? I dunno. I know another aqua that was anorexic/bulimic, although she's barely 5 ft and just has a fuller frame (read: boobs) ------------------ Christina Aquarius SUN Gemini MOON Aries ASC IP: Logged
stillatlarge Newflake Posts: 16 From: TX Registered: Nov 2010	posted December 08, 2007 03:54 PM Don't make me the scapegoat for all the problems in society or our culture. When I pointed out that Evel Knievel wasn't the stereotype of the Libra noone jumped my a--. "Weight problem" is the only diplomatic way of saying it. Should I have said FAT?! Just like the Leo is known for their hair-noone disputes that, and the Gemini is said to be talkative, IMO, Aqua fems tend to weigh in excess of 160 with a ht. of 5'1. Is that better? There are exceptions to anything but IN MY EXPERIENCE it's been the rule rather then the exception and I stand by it. I haven't SEEN the exceptions yet that's why I asked. I never said the prejudice was justified. I think you need to deal with your issues or try to change things in a constructive way rather than trying to make me the object of them. It's called transferrence I think... IP: Logged
enchantress299 Knowflake Posts: 188 From: Registered: May 2009	posted December 08, 2007 04:21 PM ACTUALLY... I've known A LOT of Aquariuses (mostly female, but a few male too), and in my experience their body types go to the extreme. They are either very tall or very short and/or very overweight or very skinny. The vast majority of them don't fall anywhere in the middle. I think part of why this is, is because Uranus rules Aquarius, which makes them very unique looking and so having an extreme body type makes them stand out. Actually, many of the Aqua females I've known have been very tall and very skinny. You also have to look at the Asc. If there's a water Asc (any water asc, not just Cancer), especially in females, the person will tend to put on extra weight. Like myself for instance, I have a Scorpio rising (not an Aqua sun though), and so I have a little extra weight and I can't seem to lose it like someone who has a lot of air or fire. I'm cool with it though. People are way too into looks in this society anyway, in my opinion. I have more important things to worry about than what that person over there thinks of my body type. Who friggin CARES? IP: Logged
heart cakes unregistered	posted December 08, 2007 04:30 PM i think you may be onto something that we tend to look a bit 'extreme'. i am quite tall, and when i was a kid i looked about 5 years older than EVERYONE else in my class cuz i was so freaking tall. i definitely stood out! IP: Logged
hippichick Knowflake Posts: 588 From: Registered: May 2009	posted December 08, 2007 04:36 PM Hey stillat"large" You must be in south Texas, like me, where 3/4 of the population is "fat." Hmmmm.....wonder how many of the population of San Antonio females are Aquas. Weight is dictated by genes, hormones, culture, lifestyle, what you eat, how much you exercise....NOT YOUR SUN SIGN!!!! IP: Logged
Azalaksh Knowflake Posts: 982 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Apr 2009	posted December 08, 2007 04:39 PM stillatlarge ~ If you are referring to my comments, I wasn’t making you a “scapegoat” for society’s problems And I didn’t imply that you thought “prejudice was justified” – I merely wondered if you agreed with it, in spite of publicly being “diplomatic” by not calling the Aquarian women you know “FAT.” Do you think my post is not “trying to change things in a constructive way,” by bringing my opinion/views here for discussion and another perspective?? I was making a judgment of our society, not you personally SAL. It’s true that people who are out of the “normal” range of ALL our culture’s accepted stereotypes ARE treated differently, some even ostracized. “Transferrence?” I don’t see where I am projecting my past emotional experiences onto you. And I didn’t blame you for The Way Things Are….. I just take issue with attempts to make astrological traits into absolutes. With all the exceptions you received in this post, I’m curious how you feel about your hypothesis now?? quote: Weight is dictated by genes, hormones, culture, lifestyle, what you eat, how much you exercise....NOT YOUR SUN SIGN!!!! Thanks T, you said it a lot more succinctly than I IP: Logged
stillatlarge Newflake Posts: 16 From: TX Registered: Nov 2010	posted December 08, 2007 05:54 PM Like I said, I stand by it til I see them for myself. When 9 out of 10 of the ones I've known are like I described, I see a pattern. If and when I see the exceptionally tall or thin ones I'll change it. I happen to think genes, hormones, exercise habits etc. are defined by sunsigns or some other astrological component. That's my prerogative. If it's true for most everything else, why wouldn't the same hold true for something like this? I can spot certain Leo and Gem fems from a mile away and I've been right too many times for it to be a fluke. If sunsign can influence something so simple like gold jewelry, especially not perfectly matched and kind of awkward jewelry, or high energy, talkativeness, and certain other personality traits in someone, why the h-ll couldn't it influence appetite, metabolism and capacity for exercise? Yes, I know that all Gem females don't wear the sparkly sandals (even before they were the style) with kind of sloppy imperfectly painted toenails but a LOT of them do. My sister and my Finance instructor are so much alike in very detailed ways they could be clones and I'm not just talking about appearance. I've guessed correctly so many Leo fems with the gold jewelry thing on the first try I can't even keep count and I don't even try that often. Stereotypes become stereotypes in the first place because there's SOME truth to them. How many cancers do you know that don't take care of their children? You all need to make up your mind. If you think sunsign or any placement is so impotent and powerless then I question why you're even on this site. IP: Logged
RainbowDay unregistered	posted December 09, 2007 06:13 PM I've observed nothing of the kind. Except my father maybe, but he's improving. And I know PLENTY aquas, am one myself too. let me see, including my father then, out of the 11 aquas I closely know, one has a weight problem. and this is only mentioning sunsigns. speaking of moons there are 3 others that I know of. Neither of them have weight problems either. IP: Logged
Azalaksh Knowflake Posts: 982 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Apr 2009	posted December 09, 2007 06:27 PM sal ~ quote: Like I said, I stand by it til I see them for myself. When 9 out of 10 of the ones I've known are like I described, I see a pattern. If and when I see the exceptionally tall or thin ones I'll change it. I happen to think genes, hormones, exercise habits etc. are defined by sunsigns or some other astrological component. Could I just point out that your 9 out of 10 people are in a very small group?? Let's use an apartment building as a metaphor. You are in an apartment (Texas) with the Aquarians you want to form an absolute about. But what about an apartment down the hall called Pakistan, or another apartment upstairs called China -- do you believe that all the Aquarian women in these apartments will conform to your Texas apartment, just because your experience proves it to be so?? These women in Apt #Pakistan and Apt #China are Aquarians too -- so your pattern must apply to them also since 'overweight' is defined by a zodiacal sign, in your experience..... I must say I find it absolutely fascinating that you assert that genes and exercise habits are defined by sunsigns or some other astrological component. That's intriguing!! IP: Logged
amowls Newflake Posts: 4 From: Falls Church, VA, USA Registered: Apr 2009	posted December 10, 2007 09:42 AM I'm an Aquarius sun and I'm skinny. I get comments about it all the time (rude people have asked my mother if I was anorexic). I don't worry or really TRY to be thin, however, it's just easy for me to keep weight off. Maybe because I'm Gemini rising, and have "a nervous energy." I also have my moon in Libra (I noticed someone mentioned that earlier in the thread). That said, there are other factors beside Sun signs that determine traits/characteristics of a person. IP: Logged
Atlenta unregistered	posted December 10, 2007 11:48 AM I've never taken note of this before, but now I do it's strange. The Aquas I know are either very fat or very skinny. Those that are skinny are really skinny, while those plump are plump. It's interesting to note. I do like the plump Aquarians Did a check - hope their birth years are accurate Sun Aqua/ Moon Libra: Skinny Sun Aqua/ Moon Sag: Very Skinny Sun Aqua/ Moon Aries: Plump Sun Aqua/ Moon Sag: Very Skinny Hey I see a pattern in the Sun Aqua/Moon sag! IP: Logged
stillatlarge Newflake Posts: 16 From: TX Registered: Nov 2010	posted December 10, 2007 01:59 PM My anecdotal sample population if you will consists of female housewives,college professors, and students between the ages of 27 and 53 and I don't know of any who live in apts. Most own their own homes and are from different towns (excluding Oprah of course). I believe that appetite, exercise, IQ, etc. and even personality to a large degree are organic in origin just the same as depression can be. Not to mention the urge to gamble which can be brought on by a bout of strep throat as a child. And I believe that astrology does influence such things. With the research findings of late, the line has become so blurred between the psychological and organic/physical it's hard to know anymore if there even is such a thing as free will. Maybe we really are much more automated than we realize. http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/MedicalAstrology29.0.htm http://www.llewellyn.com/bookstore/article.php?id=1034 IP: Logged
clockworkrose unregistered	posted December 12, 2007 01:57 PM I'm an Aquarius (and a Cancer Moon!), and I've never really had a weight problem. I've always been a bit underweight actually. BUT, you're right... I know a few Aquarian women who do struggle with weight issues. They would generally be classified as 'overweight'. Although, I don't know if you would classify them in the majority of Aquarian women, as I know just as many that are normal weight/thin. I tend to agree with what someone said above... that Aquarians tend to go to the extreme... either very skinny, or overweight. IP: Logged
MoonWitch Moderator Posts: 512 From: The Beach Registered: Apr 2009	posted December 12, 2007 09:35 PM The only Aquarian I can think of that I used to hang out with was a size 0 ... unless she was having a 'fat' month and then she was a size 2. That was only a 'weight problem' when she complained about being fat when she was a size 2 because then I wanted to smack her. IP: Logged
Venus De Milo Knowflake Posts: 167 From: Registered: Jul 2009	posted December 14, 2007 12:37 PM I'm an Aqua female and I'm a personal trainer. So no, I don't have a weight problem, although, according to BMI charts, I'm borderline overweight. Haha. No, I'm just very athletic/solid. I weight 160lbs at 5'7... but I wear a dress size 6. so there you go. My grandmother is an Aquarian, she is also a very "solid" woman, worked on a farm for 30 years, strong as an ox. My only other Aqua friend is a skinny minnie, very thin and fine boned. IP: Logged
Soulflower_13 unregistered	posted December 14, 2007 03:59 PM I'm an Aqua sun, gemini moon, aries asc, and I have always been very thin. But my whole family is pretty wirey... other aqua i know is EXTREMELY thin, to a point where it worries me. IP: Logged

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