posted December 08, 2007 05:43 PM              

yeah, I can make it in life on my own but I am not happy (not totally and completely and I don't care what anyone else has to say)
I am still a whole but like a dull star I can't shine.

posted December 08, 2007 11:17 PM              

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I don't know about that 7th house thing. I have 5 planets in the 7th house and I am NOT like that in any way shape or fashion. I can't stand that trait in people either, I think it's silly and weak. I know that's mean to say, but it's just one of my pet peeves

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I used to be like you when I was young,I was actually a loner for a long time and I thought it was weak as well...but as I have grown older and had and lost I have realized that there is nothing more important than a healthy relationship and a companion.
Friends come and go, mother and father will not stay forever and kids will go and do their own lives...
It is not like we can not exist on our own , we are strong and we certainly can but it is a lot more fulfilling when we can have a companion.

posted December 08, 2007 11:30 PM            

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Friends come and go, mother and father will not stay forever and kids will go and do their own lives...
It is not like we can not exist on our own, we are strong and we certainly can but it is a lot more fulfilling when we can have a companion.

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yeah, I can make it in life on my own but I am not happy (not totally and completely and I don't care what anyone else has to say)
I am still a whole but like a dull star I can't shine.

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posted December 08, 2007 11:43 PM              

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once you've tasted it

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That's it right there, that is were the key is, if both partners would taste the same intensity then there would be a forever without a doubt.If they are grown to not kill it that is...
I wonder if that point only happens after you are 35...I have to use a number I think 35 is pretty safe for most people on maturity, specially guys.

posted December 09, 2007 12:05 AM              

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Well NAM, I didn't mean it in a way that you should be a loner or else you're a weak person. I really meant that I find myself surrounded by people who can't be alone with themselves for a week or else they're complaining about how unhappy they are. It seems to me these days that people are so needy that they'll just go out desperately searching for someone because they don't want to be alone. It takes anything that is special in a relationship out of it when people just start settling for a lover because there isn't anything better around at the moment. It's just kind of selfish to me as well if they're with you because they don't want to be alone and not because they actually love you because you're special to them.

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I agree with you, I would never settle just because I feel I am alone, nobody should ever do that.In fact one of the many reasons why I left my husband is because of his insecurities on himself and the fact that he would tell me how much he loved me with words but not really give me the freedom to be me.
I always thought being alone was better than fighting all the time to see who had more control.

You are young (as I said before) and you have a ot to learn ahead of you, not only that but you are smart enough to be here and learn from other people's experiences, it is not the same as living your lessons but at least you can have a little insight into life and love.

I also have had so many friends that would jumo from relationships and I often wonder if they ever really felt love with any of them, funny also how they wouldn't even cry when they broke up with someone.

BTW, when I said I was a loner I meant it I was , I didn't think you were saying it means if youa re not one you are weak, I had many , MANY friends , hang out with a lot of people , but I was a loner from the relationship aspect.

posted December 09, 2007 12:16 AM              

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But to NAM, how young is young? I am 26 & people who cannot be without a companion are people I cannot stand. Okay that was probably harsh...but its such a turn off to me.

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As I said before, I also thought and saw people like this as needy and it did bug the hell out of me... just like those dating sites and stuff, I could never get into those, a friend actually got me a membership to one and I felt so uncomforatble with the whole thing. :x

I don't think love is something you can just buy or go to a place and find...
But I do think differently than before, and as Zala said , (one more time)... once you taste how intense a connection between a man and a woman can be you are not going to want anything else but to feel that magic again.

As far as age it totally depends on the individual, but from my perspective and some very close people I know I think 35 is a good number to say most of us had live enough to reach a wise level of maturity...
I am not sure how other people feel though.

In the other hand, my mom is in her 60s and she is like my kid *agh! so see, it doesn't apply to everyone

I will say though a lot of people here have a great advantage over the rest of the population because at least are trying to learn who they are. *thumbs up*

posted December 09, 2007 05:05 AM              

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I don't know about that 7th house thing. I have 5 planets in the 7th house and I am NOT like that in any way shape or fashion. I can't stand that trait in people either, I think it's silly and weak. I know that's mean to say, but it's just one of my pet peeves.

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You know, when I was in high school I was kind of a loner ... and to some extent I still am. I used to think that I don't need other people in my life. But I realized that to be *truly* happy I just need that special someone. I know it sounds stupid and pathetic. But I can't help it. I just *need* to be in a secure relationship and feel loved. I mean, it's not like I'm always in a relationship or always looking for a guy I could date. I'm perfectly content being alone. I don't need a man to take care of my business. I can do this myself. But I'm not happy when I don't have that special someone. And I honestly can't see anything wrong about that.

posted December 09, 2007 09:19 AM            

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Gaining a partner/companion isn't at the top of my list, but I feel somewhat the same as you -- once you've tasted it, you do miss having someone special in your life. Sometimes I wonder if I chose to be born a Libran to experience the exquisite wretchedness of what it's like to be partner-less by choice for long periods.....

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I think of the Libran ideal in such a matter on a greater prespective Zala . To me partnerships has always been about gaining something from the other person that you just didn't know you had in you. A partnership between two people exists on the grounds of mutual healing and experience, or support (may it be emotional, sexual, financial, etc.) However, if those needs are somehow fullfilled, a person may feel like turning to someone else to gain the other necessary experiences from and that is where its unfair for the other partner to keep on clinging to someone when they know that they have to let them go inorder for them to continue evolving (remember; I premise this on all the fact that both partners are familiar with the concepts of respect and responsibility Lol!)

So really I do not see come-and-go unions as unfaithfulness or permiscuoisity. I see it as a continious evolution journey that allows people to gain something within themselves from others that they just would have missed out on in a strictly monogomous relationship. And all those people that you gain your new found experiences from can never be forgotten... Its impossible Lol!