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Author Topic:   Help with Scorpio man's chart please? Seems VERY controlling!
Aria
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posted December 11, 2007 02:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey guys:

Had to take some time out after my "Cancer man" fiasco! Phew! Exhausting...

Started seeing a Scorpio (November 15, 1962) who seems like he needs to control things - not me per se, just situations.

I would post his chart but I SUCK at pasting those things on here! Could anyone give me some guidance on this guys? I'm not looking for a "will it work out" answer, just a bit of insight into him...

Thanks!

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kfn327
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posted December 11, 2007 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kfn327     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you looking for guidance on posting his chart?

Open the window that shows his chart. Hit the print-screen button, which on my keyboard, reads "PrtScrn" and is on the uppermost row. Open a paint program, and click paste. Then save the document. Sign up for, or long into, an image-sharing website (e.g., Photobucket). Upload the image.

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Aria
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posted December 11, 2007 02:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks KFN...unfortunately, I've tried it and it doesn't EVER work!!! Ugh!

I was hoping a kind soul would take a peek at the chart for me and give me some insight!

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yourfriendinspirit
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posted December 11, 2007 02:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We'll need a birth location and time for accuracy Aria...


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scorpiofrancesca
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posted December 11, 2007 02:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll look at his chart later as soon as I get a chance. Being a scorpio though, I understand wanting to control everything. Me personally, it comes from the feeling of if you want something done, do it yourself.. And I always try to do EVERYTHING myself, exactly how I want, can't just relax or let anyone else do things.. Definitely think it's a scorp thing in general...

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Aria
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posted December 11, 2007 03:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have a time...but the location is New York, NY. I'll take as close as I can get!

Thank you!!!!!!

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yourfriendinspirit
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posted December 11, 2007 03:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Haaa...HAaaaa...
- Make that Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Neptune in Scorpio, LOL!

*With a Cancer Moon....

Yikes! That's just a whole lotta' water too much for me.. Heee...heee...

Ok, He's Very intense! Sensual/sexual energy flowing from his veins. Most likely very close to his mother or has issues with her (no between here. LOL!) um...
Awesome stellium going on but, where we know not?

K, guys play with it..

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NeptuneLove
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posted December 11, 2007 03:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and that stellium`s conjuncting my Uranus and my Sun hitting his Uranus Pluto conjunction....sorry, just fantasizing

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posted December 11, 2007 03:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 11, 2007 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like he's got a Cancer Moon, you spotted that, right?

The Stellium in Scorpio leaps out (NEPTUNE/MERCURY/VENUS/SUN).

To be honest I honed in on Mercury Conjunct Neptune in Scorpio. That's because it reminded me of seeing it prominently placed in the chart of someone I know well - in Virgo. They also have Virgo Ascendant and Mars in Virgo.

This person's behaviour chimes with "seems like he needs to control things - not me per se, just situations."

This person came to stay in my house and I tuned in to the way they seemed to need to control their environment as a defence mechanism, as if they need it to help them cope with the chaos of the world. Everything has to be planned, standards are exacting, and flexibility is limited. It's not like there is a need to control or dominate people. But there will be problems if you don't fit into the routine as laid down to their standards (even in your own house!).

Maybe this man has something similar going on? The stellium is suggesting to me high standards (and Scorpionic people often seem to have strong likes and dislikes). Maybe this combination reflects an artistic or aesthetic ideal?

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heart cakes
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posted December 11, 2007 03:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey aria!

i have a friend with a stellium of pluto, saturn, moon, mercury, jupiter, sun and venus in scorpio.

all i can say is: stay on his good side!

seriously.

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MUSTANG
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posted December 11, 2007 04:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Way too much scorpio for me - the people I've known with a large stellium of scorpio are way too intense for me. Maybe it would be good for you, I don't know w/o seeing your chart.

Anyway, I don't like the squares to his mars from that stellium - no wonder he's controlling. He MAY even be abusive, but I stress "may," you can't tell that from a chart, but if he was inclined to be so, the aspects in his chart would confirm that.

I agree with the poster above - when someone has such a large amount of scorpio, stay on their god side. Walk on eggshells...

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libraschoice7
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posted December 12, 2007 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where did you meet him, so I can find one like him? I can handle all the water and intensity...it's what I like

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Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

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Aria
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posted December 12, 2007 10:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, Heart cakes...Mustang...YFIS...Libra's Choice...EVERYBODY!

I need to preface this with: You guys are AWESOME! Not only do you crack me up, but you know your stuff and are always willing to share! Thanks!

I can't disagree with anyone, really!

He definitely IS VERY INTENSE! And, very SEXUAL...though I wouldn't know from experience. He simply expresses it often!!!

Has to control the situation and surroundings - borders on over-bearing! Everything he does is over the top and it sometimes comes off as trying too hard BUT, its not in an effort to please people but rather, as a self agrandizing mechanism. Pats himself on the back A LOT!

Confidence level? Off the charts! In less than two weeks of dating he was telling me I was going to fall in love with him (and him with me) and would speak for me by saying things like: I know Aria is really into *his name* or, I think you're as nuts about me as I am about you! He's ALL ego!

When I FINALLY told him to back off a little (I was gentle guys) and not tell me how I felt or what I was going to do, it hurt his feelings and THEN came the retribution! He backed off 100%, stopped communicating - basically gave me "what I wanted" but went overboard with it! Then he loved having me ask him why he was acting so different! He eventually admitted that I'd "kicked him in the b****" with my comment and that he's a big baby and is VERY sensitive. He can dish it out but can't take it!

He's definitely used to women falling over themselves for him, even though he's NO Adonis....I read about Scorpio magnitisim. Unfortunately, its accurate! I'm really drawn to him! The fact that I won't faint at the sight of him seems to be a contributing factor - a challenge, maybe?

He admitted that when hurt emotionally, he'll hone in on that person's weakness and let it rip! However, he won't own up to ever having his heart broken! At 46?

Abusive? Hmmm.... he has two daughter's of whom he has total custody and is very protective of them. I think the abusive characteristic comes out in game-playing. He always needs to be "on top" and the fact that I "make him weak in the knees" thrills him AND freaks him out.

As a Gemini, I'm a little concerned! Its as if we have to march to HIS drumbeat or not at all!

Can somebody find me a nice Aries or Libra PLEASE?

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heart cakes
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posted December 12, 2007 11:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey aria,

i can totally relate. this guy is like that too. he was a GREAT friend while it lasted but unfortunately he is very angry with me for questioning his intentions on something and doesn't seem like he is ever gonna let that go. but when they are loyal, it seems they are fierce.

funny cuz your description of your guy's need to control everything reminded me of when my friend came to visit when i was just moving into my place. he started unpacking my stuff and putting things where he thought they ought to go and was actually SUPER hurt and mad that i asked him (very nicely!) to stop! like he actually had to make my place how HE wanted it and couldn't understand why i'd like to actually unpack my own stuff, and was even super offended! bizarre..

funny you are drawn to these intense water guys! do you have a water moon or something? it sounds like this guy will be really commited if you decide you want that, but then again, like you said, maybe the challenge is part of the allure for him? another reason me and this guy stopped being friends is cuz he was really upset when he found out that i have a thing going with a guy. i didn't even know he had feelings for me but apparently this really upset him, so i guess the thrill or the challenge to 'get' me is gone.

hey.. weren't you dating a fellow gemini at one point? a gentleman if i remember correctly?

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Aria
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posted December 12, 2007 01:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Heart Cakes:

Its so cool you remember that Gemini man! It only lasted a couple of dates - he had one foot back home in another state due to his dad's illness and went back. I don't really do long distance SO...

Just my luck, huh?

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cappieluvsscorp
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posted December 12, 2007 01:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Scorpio ex was a stellium as well (Sun, Moon and Venus) and boy was he intense; I can't imagine what this guy is like! My ex was controlling, never abusive..he sometimes reminded me of a gentle giant because he had such a good heart but he always protected it because he knew of his vulnerabilities and felt like others could see it too. He NEVER liked being vulnerable; I mean his obsession with it was over the top....24/7! I think he was too extreme at times. He was jealous...but tried not to show it. I knew he loved me, but was VERY guarded about his feelings. Most Scorps I know like to control their environment, some more than others. But I can understand that. From the onset of our relationship, he told me that if we ever broke up he could never be friends with me...and he stood true to his word. It's unfortunate because he was such a great person and although I would've remained in contact with him...it was all or nothing for him. He always said he didn't think he would marry because he was too intense and he thought no woman would be able to deal with him. My Scorp now is much less intense...I attribute it to his Sagittarius placements which I love! He's more lighthearted and believes in having fun in love! SO ME!
My advice to you would be to never cross this man...if you can handle all his water, more power to you. But on the other hand, you can come out emotionally drained from it all. He will make a very loyal friend.

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Sun Capricorn (8th House)
Moon Leo (3rd House)
Mercury Sagittarius (7th House)
Venus Capricorn (7th House)
Mars Leo (3rd House)
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Aria
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posted December 12, 2007 03:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CappieluvsScorp:

I think they might be twins!

This guy's need to protect himself directs everything he does! And I mean EVERYTHING...

Like I said, I hurt his feelings SO, he backed off - way off - which is okay with me, I'm in no hurry, but it shows how scared he is of it happening again!

Yet, he acts like he owns the world and everything in it! Like when he used to predict we'd fall in love, that I'd be all his one day. So the ego hides the insecurity?

He also seems to think that he doesn't need to court me after one month! He's intense, he's sexual, he's over-the-top complimentary BUT, he's not romantic! I don't know if this is him or, if he's still reacting to having his ego dented!

He called on Monday and asked to see me on Tuesday. Tuesday morning I get an email saying he forgot that he "might have another engagement." I didn't fret, but asked him to let me know asap because I'd been invited to a company holiday party.

Six hours went by, I didn't hear from him and due to his ego, I REFUSE to sit around and wait for him so...off I went!

When he called, I explained that I hadn't heard from him and he said no problem, we'll do it tomorrow. However, as the conversation progressed THAT date deteriorated into:

1. We'll do it tomorrow 2. I'll call you and we'll talk about it then 3. I'll call you and if neither one of us is busy, we'll figure something out and ultimately 4. If not tomorrow, we'll see each other soon.

It was like he regressed from setting up a date to a hypothetical meeting!

Luckily, I'm not SO into him that it offends me but c'mon...grow up!


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MUSTANG
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posted December 12, 2007 03:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't care what sign he is...he sounds like an immature baby.

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LibraChickety
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posted December 12, 2007 05:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]This guy's need to protect himself directs everything he does! And I mean EVERYTHING...

Like I said, I hurt his feelings SO, he backed off - way off - which is okay with me, I'm in no hurry, but it shows how scared he is of it happening again!

Yet, he acts like he owns the world and everything in it! Like when he used to predict we'd fall in love, that I'd be all his one day. So the ego hides the insecurity?

He also seems to think that he doesn't need to court me after one month! He's intense, he's sexual, he's over-the-top complimentary BUT, he's not romantic! I don't know if this is him or, if he's still reacting to having his ego dented!

He called on Monday and asked to see me on Tuesday. Tuesday morning I get an email saying he forgot that he "might have another engagement." I didn't fret, but asked him to let me know asap because I'd been invited to a company holiday party.

Six hours went by, I didn't hear from him and due to his ego, I REFUSE to sit around and wait for him so...off I went!

When he called, I explained that I hadn't heard from him and he said no problem, we'll do it tomorrow. However, as the conversation progressed THAT date deteriorated into:

1. We'll do it tomorrow 2. I'll call you and we'll talk about it then 3. I'll call you and if neither one of us is busy, we'll figure something out and ultimately 4. If not tomorrow, we'll see each other soon.

It was like he regressed from setting up a date to a hypothetical meeting!

Luckily, I'm not SO into him that it offends me but c'mon...grow up![QUOTE]

I experienced this with a Moon and Venus in Scorpio. *Rips hair out*

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Sun in Libra
Asc. in Sagittarius
Moon in Virgo
Mercury in Libra
Venus in Scorpio
Mars in Leo
Jupiter in Libra
Saturn in Libra
Uranus in Scorpio
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I feel so naked ;)

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Aria
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posted December 12, 2007 10:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Librachikety: Ripped your hair out, huh? Learned anything that you could share that would help me deal before I end up bald as well.

Thanks, Mustang! As always, I love the way you cut to the chase and call 'em and you see them...

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Aria
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posted December 13, 2007 10:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sure enough! I wasn't feeling well so he invited himself AND HIS DAUGHTER over to my house last night!

He said he wanted her to meet my dogs and then we could watch a video of them when they were on a show (sports channel interview - he's an athlete) Ahhh, excuse me but, what if its not convenient for ME to have her messing with the dogs when I'm not well? And, watching a video of them? Hello? A bit egocentric?

This is exactly how he got me to meet her in the first place! By calling right before our date and TELLING me that she wanted to meet me already so, could we all do something together. I later told him that he hadn't given me much of a choice since she was listening in on our conversation! He apologized but obviously didn't learn his lesson.

Anyway, I politely turned them down and not two hours had gone by before he was calling again to "check how I was feeling." Yeah, check to make sure that I WAS home is more like it!

I don't think CONTROLLING even begins to cover this guy! I might be heading for the hills pretty soon...

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted December 13, 2007 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Aria,

I'm saying this gently now. You asked for insight on this guy when actually, you started out by giving the insight on him and your insight was right on the money. There's really nothing else to say about him. My question to you is: How would you advise someone who is in your situation? Do you like this man?

When I ask if you like him, I mean for you to separate the sexual chemistry and magnetism from the person that he is?

It might not even be fair for me to ask that question about separating all those things, but I often wonder to myself about certain men, "If I was blind, would I still love him? If he was in a horrible accident and I had to care for him for a certain amount of time or even forever, would I enjoy his company just on personality alone?"

That might give you some answers about him, because by the looks of his chart, you have hit the nail on the head. Not to be stereotypical about Scorpio's but he fits the description of that archetype to an extreme, as he should with that Grand Stellium in Scorpio, so it's up to you if you want to accept him as he is. I think I gave you a nickel instead of two cents, but you can keep the change if you want to give to someone else later. That's how I got the nickel

Geocosmic Valentine

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LibraChickety
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posted December 13, 2007 05:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well said, Geocosmic Valentine

Aria, I DID rip my hair out. I know we had amazing physical chemistry (beyond physical - the kind that makes you not remember your name afterward and not care about anything else - and I think that's what kept me so long), but he was a self-centered, egotistical, game-playing a*shole otherwise. He has COMPLETELY cut ties with me. Why? Game over - I called his bluff.

I deserve better AND SO DO YOU!

I wish I had stopped analyzing and gotten away sooner. Because now I am dealing with personal things that I'm not still out of the clear with with regards to him (too personal to get into).
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Sun in Libra
Asc. in Sagittarius
Moon in Virgo
Mercury in Libra
Venus in Scorpio
Mars in Leo
Jupiter in Libra
Saturn in Libra
Uranus in Scorpio
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I feel so naked

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Aria
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posted December 13, 2007 10:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey: Geocosmic Valentine & LibraChickety:

I read your posts, closed my eyes and thought about what you both wrote...

Then I spoke to him and he passed on a compliment from a friend that had us over for a holiday party. Apparently, the comment was "Man, that was a smokin' hot girl you brought with you!" But, by the end of our telephone conversation the comment had morphed into "Dude, only YOU could manage to show up with a girl that's too hot to handle!" He can't even pass on a compliment without patting himself on the back in the process.

So, the answer is NO! I wouldn't be able to spend time with him based on who he is alone - without the chemistry...or my Gemini's need for adventure and challenge!

Time to move on!

Thanks, guys! I REALLY do appreciate the feedback. Now how in Jove's name does one sever ties with a Scorpio without getting their tires slashed?

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