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Topic: sign of psychic and spirituality in your birthchart
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praecipua
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posted December 12, 2007 12:52 PM
 
before to get into the intersting stuff, we need to give a few essential definitions: extract from SIGNS OF PSYCHIC AND SPIRITUAL ABILITIES by Dr. Mitchell E. Gibson. "is it possible to foresee the development of an individual's psychic and spiritual potential from birth? [...] quite simply, i wanted to know if i could look at a person's birth chart and quickly make an accurate assesment of their inherent psychic and spiritual abilities. [...] in this book, the reader will find data on some of the greatest spiritual giants of all time. edgar cayce, nostradamus, olga worrall, gerard croiset,..." so he goes on and creates 4 different categories:
1-general psychic potential
2-healing potential
3-mediumship potential
4-mystic potential in order to assess thoses qualities, M.E.Gibons uses new astrological terms (new to me at least) which i need to mention if you want to use Gibsons technique: 1: elevation:
a word used to discribe a special planetary interaction which affects the basic expression of a planet's energies. Elevations may be positive or negative dependending on the planet's position in the sky or upon the planet(s) it interacts with. 2: parallel:
a term used to describe a latitudinal planetary interaction in which two celestial bodies are positioned within an orb of two degrees and thirty four minutes on the same side of the celestial equator. 3: contraparallel:
a term used to describe a latitudinal planetary interaction in which two celestial bodies are positioned within an orb of two degrees and thirty four minutes on opposite sides of the celestial equator. 4: triangle elevation:
a term used to describe a latitudinal planetary interaction wherein three celestial bodies are parallel or contraparallel to each other (or any combination thereof) at the same time. (all planets within a triangle elevation must be either parallel or contraparallel to all other planets within the triangle. triangle elevation are fairly common.) 5: quad elevation:
same as triangle elevation but with 4 planets. quad elevations are uncommon. 6: plenary elevation:
same as triangle and quad elevation but with 5 planets. plenary elevations are rare. 7: band elevation: again, a latitudinal planetary interaction but this time with 6 celestial bodies being parallel or contraparallel to each other (or any combination thereof) at the same time and between all the planets involved. Extremely rare. 8: elevation by high declination HIDEK:
a term used to describe the latitudinal position of a celestial body when it is found between 21 degrees and 23 degrees thirty minutes on either side of the celestial equator. the term is often referred to in its abbreviated form: HIDEK. 9: elevation by extreme declination EXDEK:
a term used to describe the latitudinal position of a celestial body when it is found above 23 degrees thirty minutes on either side of the celestial equator. the term is often referred to in its abbreviated form: EXDEK. 10: elevation by proximity:
a term used to describe the latitudinal position of two celestial bodies when they are found within 30 minutes of each other in a parallel or contraprallel relationship. 11: planetary eclipse:
a term used to describe an event which occurs when two planets are simultaneously in conjonction and parallel to each other. planetary eclipses are fairly common occurences. 12:binary eclipse:
a term used to describe an event which occurs when three planets are simultaneously in conjonction and parallel to each other. planetary eclipses are very uncommon occurences. 13: plenary eclipse:
a term used to describe an event which occurs when four or more planets are simultaneously in conjonction and parallel to each other. exceptionnaly rare occurences. 14: degree of elevation:
a term used to describe the number of elevations (positive or negative) which a particular planet may have in a chart. when Mercury has a fourth degree negative in a chart it means that within that particular chart mercury has four negative elevations. the greater the number of elevations(positive or negative) that a planet has within a chart, the greater its influence upon the native. 15: grand elevation:
a term used to describe a special occurence which happens when a planet has six or more, be either positive or negative. (the sum of the positive and negative elevations of a planet within a chart does not indicate the presence of grand elevation.) the presence of a grand elevation of a planet within a chart indicates an area of great influence and activity. IP: Logged |
praecipua
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posted December 12, 2007 01:13 PM
ok so now let's see the first category: GENERAL PSYCHIC POTENTIAL and how we find out our inate psychic potential:(every aspects score 10 points except when mentioned otherwise)
conjonctions :
saturn-mars
jupiter-saturn
moon-venus
saturn-uranus
jupiter-moon
jupiter-uranus
sun-mars
uranus-mars trine:
neptune-mars
venus-jupiter
mercury-mars
jupiter-uranus(25 points) sextiles:
saturn-mercury
pluto uranus(25 points)
sun-uranus(25 points)
mercury-mars(25 points)
jupiter-mercury(25 points)
saturn-pluto(25 points)
saturn-sun(25 points)
saturn-neptune
sun-mars
uranus-moon(25 points)
venus-pluto(25 points)
mercury-venus(25 points)
neptune-moon(25 points)
moon-mars
jupiter-moon squares:
pluto-moon
sun-jupiter
uranus-pluto
jupiter-moon
jupiter-uranus
venus-jupiter
saturn-moon
jupiter-saturn
jupiter-neptune oppositions:
pluto-mars
saturn-moon
venus-saturn
saturn-neptune parallels:
moon-venus
pluto-moon(25 points)
sun-moon
mercury-mars
pluto-mars
jupiter-moon
saturn-neptune
venus-neptune(25 points)
pluto-uranus
moon-mercury
jupiter-mars(25 points)
sun-mercury
mercury-venus(25 points)
jupiter-saturn contraparallels:
jupiter-saturn(25 points)
moon-mercury(25 points)
pluto-moon(25 points)
jupiter-mercury
jupiter-neptune
jupiter-moon
sun-jupiter(25 points)
sun-moon(25 points)
uranus-neptune(25 points)
pluto-mars(25 points) HIDEK:
mercury
mars EXDEK:
venus
mars
uranus
pluto proximity elevations:
pluto-mars (parallel)
sun-pluto (contraparallel) eclipses:
saturn-mercury
jupiter-uranus
any mars eclipses grand elevations:
+ mercury
-sun
-uranus
-neptune
+moon GRAND TOTAL:
between 0-30 below average
between 31-60 average
between 61-100 above average
between 101-140 superior
between 141-180 outstanding
181+ delphi class
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praecipua
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posted December 12, 2007 01:53 PM
results for GENERAL PSYCHIC POTENTIAL:BELOW AVERAGE: much of what we do during the day relies on subliminal impressions that we receive from the pysical and emotional environment. some people operate almost exclusively on this level of perception and are actually resistantto examining the inner senses. theses nativities tend to be associated with psi-blocking and left-brain analysis that tends to be very destructive to the subtle spiritual processes as they impinge upon the brain. a below average level of general psychic potential does not imply that a person has no psychic potential. rather, it suggest that these individuals will tend to block or deny their abilities within this particular lifetime or natal period. transit periods characterized by this level of potential are not considered to be good periods during which to engage in psychic trance work. AVERAGE: much of our day experience is based on information already residing in memory (even if it seems like we're simply perceiving external events and things). in fact, recognition of any given external form (an object, a friend, a pet, is based on the activation of internal abstract categories formed over many past experiences. comparatively speaking, the actual sensory input may be of little importance. the downside of this of course, is stereotyping, jumping to conclusions, and allowing logical deduction to dominate the mental processes. this can be a good thing as the mind needs logic to operate within the everyday world. if you pay enough attention to details, body posture, facial expressions, eye contact, can all be interpreted with a great deal of accuracy in making a logical deduction about people or situations. however psychic perceptions can get mixed into the inferential process, and we might stumble onto some very specific information about other people which simply could not have been deduced or inferred from the known elements. this is the lot of the individual with average spiritual potential. though they do not block their abilities outright, they will tend to allow left-brain mentation and logic to cloud many useful psychic perceptions. transit periods characterized by this score are not considered favorable for most psychic and spiritual work. meditation and relaxation work is very useful for freeing these individuals from their self-imposed left-brain servitude. ABOVE AVERAGE: perception was once thought to pre-suppose awareness; we sense only that which we have perceived consciously. much research, however, now shows that information presented below the threshold of awareness can still influence ou behaviour, our feelings, our thoughts, even our dreams. if a man falls asleep while listening to the radio and has a very disturbing dream about an airplane crashing, he might be concerned that he had just experienced a nightmare. if however he had inadvertently heard about a plane crash over the radio while he slept, he had unknowingly incorporated this subliminal information into his dream state. there is now abundant experimental evidence that we indeed sense and process information even without conscious awareness. clearly, some psychic experiences are based on subliminal perception rather than psi. it is useful to note here that some psychic perceptions are clearly influenced by subliminal perceptions. during an above average potential transit period, the forces that mediate subliminal perceptions are extremely active. this heightened degree of subliminal force and receptivity tends to be a great boon to the activation of true psi potential. the native whose chart displays an above average degree of psychic potential is able to sense information at the subliminal much better than the average person. this fact tends to lead to a higher percentage of accurate psychic performances and experiences when compared to the control group. this transit period is very conducive to trance work but serious psychic exploration and contemplation should be saved for more fertile transit environments IP: Logged |
praecipua
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posted December 12, 2007 02:36 PM
SUPERIOR: a number of diverse studies suggest that psi tends to be associated with images rather than concepts and words, symbols and metaphor rather than with logic, with holistic and non-linear thought processes rather than sequential processing. these brain functions are linked to right brain thinking rather than left-brain functions.
individuals with superior psi potential have strong right-brain functioning. this allows them not only to incorporate subliminal information into their consciousness, but it also allows for a higher level of non-linear processing that opens the doors for true psi functioning. it is in this realm that the true psychic gift begins to emerge in its purest form. theses environments tend to make good transits during which to meditate, perform trance work, or even begin psi explorations. though they tend to be less effective than higher environments, the results obtained within this environment are often accurate and useful.OUTSTANDING: individuals with an outstanding psychic potential rating possess a deeper association between their conscious mental functions and their deeper mental states. traditionnally, deeper psychic abilities are accessed through trance states that place the ego on "hold". the ego, with all its preoccupations with worry, agendas, planning, judgment, and analysis create a permanent and pervasive mental noise. the perception of psi information depends on our capacity to reduce this noise so that we may hear the whisperings of our highr, deeper selveswhich lives in the stygian unconscious. the individual with outstanding potential has a much more fluidexchange between the unconscious and conscious level of mind. this allows for a greater capacity for true psi to emerge. the outstanding environmentis an excellent environment during which to perform any type of serious psi work. divination and dowsing work is especially encouraged during this time period. clairvoyant trance work aimed at the discovery of unknown connections between conscious material and deep unconscious material is also apt to be significantly more accurate during this time period. DELPHI CLASS: the human mind is one of the most powerful of god's creation. in the delphi class psychic, this jewel of the universe begins to achieve its fullest flower. the latent psi potential of the soul is able to manifest only when the potential of the mind, body and spirit are in synchronicity with each other. in other words, the total being must be willing and able to accept and manifest a fuller measur of its divinity. this is a tall order and many beings prefer to talk about approximating the divine rather than living it. this is true of the followers of most religions and spiritual disciplines. the delphi level of spiritual potential is a rare state.it only occurs for a period of less than three weeks out of the average year and its higher potential states are rare still. it is in this potential state however that the highest and most powerful abilities of the human spirit begin to bear fruit. psychometry refers to the ability of a person to divine facts about an object's past, or about its owner, by holding the object in her hands. during the delphi transit, this ability is extremely heightened. divination reaches the heights of its potential of its potential manifestation during this transit. this is a fantastic time to get a reading for yourself or for a loved one. it is also a superb time to practice dowsing, tarot card reading, or clairvoyant trance induction. the delphi level psychic is gifted with a soul that is ready to move to the heights of human incarnation. wether the native admits it this fact to themselves or not, this is a reality. some delphi psychic need training or initiation in order to realize their outstanding potential. many are afraid to explore the person within that they have glimpsed during dreams or intuitive explorations that shadows them and provides the spiritual food for their deepest prayers and visions. this dichotomy of reality is the bane of the delphi psychic's existence. accepting the utter inferiority of the human form and its relatively primitive five local senses is a moajor hurdle to be cleared for the spirit at this level of reality. fourth dimensional reality and experience is the true home of the soul at this level. accept this as your next task and life will become much more exciting. the average and below average psychic can function at a much higher level during this transit because the ambient psychic tidal energies at this time will heartily support greater levels of psychic functioning. true magic is possible during this transit. IP: Logged |
praecipua
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posted December 12, 2007 02:39 PM
another time i'll copy from M.E.Gibons book informations about mediumship potential, mystic potential and healing potential. but for now i'm gonna go to the pub; exhausted. bonne lecture a tous les amisIP: Logged |
Alia
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posted December 12, 2007 02:46 PM
wow precipua that s alot of calculations to do if u dont have a software!
would u have a look at my chart and tell me if u can see some potential psychic traits?thanks !  IP: Logged |
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posted December 12, 2007 02:55 PM
hi alia, it's not as difficult as it seems. if you got your chart from astro.com then click on the pdf informations about your chart. on this you have all the details(degrees) you need under "declination". it's very simple. the author is just using the latitudinal positions of the planets as opposed to the longitudinal position of the planets (which would be the degrees in the zodiac sign as we all know them)IP: Logged |
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posted December 12, 2007 03:01 PM
I got lost once the parallel calculations came up..no idea how to go about finding these. But up until then I just had 40 pts. I've experienced countless instances of "psychic" clarity/insight. Many, many people experience it, too. I think every single person has the potential and the means to have psychic ability, perhaps what is indicated in our charts just shows how perceptive we are to ourselves, our likliness to tap into that higher part of ourselves, or if we even notice it at all.------------------
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Lara
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posted December 12, 2007 03:38 PM
Fantastic but may l ask if we can take Sai Baba out of the original post pls as he is no martyr. In fact right now he is in prison for abuse children for most of his career as an avatar.I'm up to about 80 but can't figure out all the HIDEK, EXDEK and elevation ones lol help!!!!!  IP: Logged |
praecipua
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posted December 12, 2007 04:32 PM
hi there, i'm pleased you find that interesting....well regarding the parallel, you just need to check the declination and see if the planets are both north or south of the equator and if they are less than 2 degrees 34 minutes.and if two planets are within the orb of 2 degrees 34 minutes but on each sign of the equator (one north and one south) then those planets are contraparallel. easy! ex of parallel:
jupiter latitude 9 degrees 30 north
moon lattitude 8 degrees 40 north ex of contraparallel:
saturn latitude 11degrees 30 south
jupiter latitude 9 degrees 30 north regarding HIDEK and EXDEK it's just about how far is the planet from the equator. so if a planet is above 23 degrees 30, then you can see it as EXDEK (extreme declination) and it can be north and south, but has to be this degree or anything higher.
HIDEK planets can be on each side of the equator, but they have to be between 21 degrees and 23 degrees 30. beyond they are considered EXDEK and below 21 degrees then, they are normal!
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praecipua
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posted December 12, 2007 04:49 PM
sai baba's out!!!
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Lara
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posted December 12, 2007 05:01 PM
OK Great!!  One question - on the eclipses, l have this configuration: moon 0.04 deg
mars 0.14 deg
uranus 0.47 deg
n node 0.0 deg
jupiter 1.10 deg
neptune 1.46 deg
ALL are N - does this mean l have one of those eclipses pls? I have the same with the South too:
sun 0.0 deg
merc 0.10 deg
venus 1.26 deg
saturn 2.14 deg They are all within 2.3 degrees and pretty much cover my entire range of planets LOL I must be making a mistake here
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praecipua
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posted December 12, 2007 05:13 PM
on the north side, because there's 6 points i would say it's a grand elevation(even though i don't know if north node count as a planet here).
but to be an eclipse thoses planetes in parallels (and for some in contraparallels) that you have on the north and on the south side of the equator should also be conjuncts.IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted December 12, 2007 05:23 PM
Yeah alot of them are conjunct lolI have this ridiculous stellium which takes up all of my first house. So potentially do l give a 10 for the 2 elevations and then any planets in parallel/contra l give marks to if they are conjunct in normal aspects? Sorry to appear so confused :-) IP: Logged |
praecipua
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posted December 12, 2007 05:35 PM
lara i think you have +10 for a mercury grand elevation and +10 for a moon grand elevation. what's your pluto degree?
and yes, you're right, you count planets as eclips when they are simultaneously parallel and in conjonction. IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted December 12, 2007 06:00 PM
okay..... well, based on what you said and l think l understood you PLUS l am really interested...errrmmm my total was 260  LOL Is this thing accurate? I mean, l know i'm like really psychic but l never saw any psychic connections in my chart before All l can say is WOW ! IP: Logged |
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posted December 12, 2007 07:34 PM
yeah, 260 is huge!!!  delphi class!
you  !!!
tomorrow i'll see if i can post more, about medium, healing and mystic abilities. i find that so interesting.
they based their research on the charts of leaders in their fields, if i may say.
all of this is from the book SIGNS OF PSYCHIC AND SPIRITUAL ABILITIES by Mitchell E. Gibson
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Lara
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posted December 12, 2007 07:47 PM
Yes please as one of the things l do is healing and l was partially brought up by mediums Thanks Praecipua for such an interesting thread BTW l see that you are also in England IP: Logged |
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posted December 12, 2007 08:00 PM
Sorry...are we talking about declinations here? I tend to think of parallels as declinational but I think you mean the actual latitude, correct?IP: Logged |
praecipua
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posted December 12, 2007 08:03 PM
there's a list of psychics cited in the book along with their score. you are only 20 points away from nostradamus (280)Eric Hanusssen 175 outstanding
Kelly Quinn 145 outstanding
Mark Reymont 155 outstanding
Jean Dixon 165 outstanding
William Wingfield 205 delphi
Caralyn 245 delphi
Alan Vaughn 160 outstanding
Johann Voght 300 delphi
Fred Kimball 165 outstanding
Sylvia Browne 115 superior
nostradamus 280 delphi
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praecipua
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posted December 12, 2007 08:05 PM
hang on Love, because i initially thought we had to use latitude but after checking, it seems that i misunderstood and we have to use the declination, indeed. i'm sorry if i got you confused.IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted December 12, 2007 08:14 PM
It's funny cos l always looked at those close degree latitudes and wondered what on earth they meant LOLOMG @Nostradamus... To be honest l wouldn't care if my score was 10 cos l have total belief in my abilities so it doesn't make my ego wanna party hehe :P It's just soo interesting though !!! I can't wait for the next bit you are going to put up praecipua. Is it also a scoring thing? :-) night night and thanks! IP: Logged |
praecipua
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posted December 12, 2007 08:19 PM
yeah lara the other stuff is the same thing.
well i'm glad it made it clear to you now where you stand!
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Diandra23
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posted December 13, 2007 08:19 AM
Praecipua,im in some doubts can you help me with this? So you are talking about latitudes and not declinations right? ( so to see the tables of latitudes) I thought that for latitudes te orbs would have to be much more tighter like just 1șorb 
And her on LL it were told that we looked at the declinations in Heliocentric Charts also. BTW this thread is very interesting,thanks! IP: Logged |
praecipua
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posted December 13, 2007 09:07 AM
ok diandra23 i checked and you're right it's not with latitude but with declinations. i must say i got confused by the author's constant use of the word latitude or latitudinal. but you raised a doubt... and you're right, we have to use the declinations.
sorry lara but this means you'll have to double check your score. i'm really sorry if i got confused, and you too.
i'm going to edit my first post...
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