posted December 19, 2007 01:24 AM            

I did see someone's comments on here about prominent dimples (which he has on his chin) meaning Libra ascendant, but his birthday is on the libra/scorpio cusp, so I don't think it is valid in his case.

His focused nature and stares/glare *ha*, and manipulative behavior all are attributed to his scorpio sun, so I can't use that. He also is cocky and full of himself, which I love, but can be attributed to his placements he has in scorpio and leo, so I am at a loss in figuring out his asc. So, please help if you can.

posted December 19, 2007 09:52 AM              

I'd start off determining whether he is more introverted (earth or water Ascendant) or extroverted (air or fire Ascendant) ... and from there I'd take a closer look at the possible Ascendants and look which one sounds most like him (of course always keeping in mind that the Sun and Moon or a stellium in a sign can greatly modify the "intensity" of an Ascendant). A good way of determining someone's Ascendant is taking a look at the charts of people close to him (like best friends or lovers). It is very likely that the people closest to him have strong placements in the sign of his Ascendant or Descendant.

Only after you've narrowed down the possibilities to 2 or 3 I'd try continue to look at transits of special events in his life to ascertain his birth time.

People in this forum are usually pretty good at guessing Ascendants based on characteristics ... so you might want to try to write down what he is like in real life (you know, like how he acts when he meets new people and stuff like that) and his planetary placements.

posted December 19, 2007 11:05 AM              

When trying to guess someone's Rising sign, I think back to the very first time I met them. The first meeting is when our ascendants come out.

posted December 19, 2007 08:31 PM              

I feel for you. I have the same problem too... not sure what rising sign l am! I've narrowed it down to 4 but it's really not easy. Anyone who wants to help me out i'm grateful. I have some very specific/unique traits that probably point to a definate rising sign and have 3 kids and 2 marriages behind me.

I have been trying to find mine for ages now. They thought l was Pisces AC on another forum but it just doesn't feel right! I'm such a direct, in your face person (bloody Aries stellium) hehe

posted December 19, 2007 10:31 PM            

Mind you, I'm still learning this, so this will take me some time.

cappieluvsscorp, I'll be back for you, however, need bday??

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Well, he is the baby of 6 kids (spoiled rotten by his 3 big sisters, 2 brothers, and mom), father was in and out (a floater type stayed with the friend that had the beer as he puts it), his mother was a hard worker and supported the kids pretty much herself. I know that when he was around 16-17 his mother's new husband had to relocate for a job and she went with him (she, of course, give my man the option to stay or go since he was old enough) he chose to stay behind. He still has a lot of resentment towards her for it though.

He worked in the oil field to support himself while finishing high school. He went to college for about a 1 1/2 yrs. to play football, but quit. So, he is the athletic type. He did have a pretty big accident when he was younger he almost lost most of his hand I don't remember the age maybe 10-14.

He did have a pretty decent relationship with his father as he got older. His father died in 1996. His mother is 73-74 now. Hasn't lost any brothers/sisters. His paternal grandmother died about 2 weeks ago.

Thank god, there are no names on here he would die probably knowing that I just listed all of that.

Well, if you put his mars on his asc. that would put his karma/valentine/north node in his asc. do you think that would sound right?

posted December 20, 2007 12:42 AM            

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He is the president of the local little league. He is very outspoken, sometimes to the point of being rude to people he justs meets, he will seem so serious when he is just kidding. He is not a push over when someone does something to upset him....29thdegree

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Mars conjunct the Ascendant would be more dominating than rude
Try squaring his Mars to the Ascendant, see if that fits.

posted December 20, 2007 03:13 AM            

Saturn in the 4th
http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/BookKarmaHouse4.htm

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Saturn

Saturn in the 4th House gives a cold and austere childhood. With this placement a person tends to experience the mother as inhibited and puritanical; home life in consequence is cheerless. Saturn in H4 is found in charts, which indicate that emotional immaturity in past lives has incurred karma: the reaction to emotional charged situations having been irresponsible, child-like and lacking restraint. People with Saturn in H4 usually wish to leave behind their childhood and everything associated with it as soon as possible. They rarely have much affection for the country of birth.

People with Saturn in the 4th House begin adult life feeling uncomfortable with self-examination and usually with little awareness of the extent of their inhibitedness. Although their future happiness depends upon a willingness to examine the legacy of their childhoods, their inhibitions enable them to develop the emotional control lacking in previous incarnations. Understanding the emotional self is the challenge presented by Saturn in H4, which may or may not be accepted. The price of not looking within tends to be loneliness, domestic disharmony and a lack of emotional fulfilment. Those who do accept the challenge tend to favour the psychological, rather than the spiritual route to self-discovery and appear to be particularly receptive to psychoanalysis.

The 4th House placement of Saturn tends to manifest delays and disappointments in connection with property. It is notable that people with Saturn in H4 experience more than an average amount of difficulty in disposing of properties.

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does this fit?
if not go to the link I posted and go through the planets by house and see if anything applies.

Recification can be a long process of elimination.

good luck, keep me posted

posted December 20, 2007 03:47 AM              

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...since he holds one of the top paying positions in his work, do you think mars fits in the 10th house...

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Did you try putting Jupiter in the 10th house???

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Every behavior that stands out can usually be attributed to at least a couple of signs/houses.

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Exactly ... that's why if I were your I'd focus more on his most obvious character traits in order to narrow down the possibilities. Try to focus on the traits that people that don't know him very well can see. What do people that don't know him see when they first meet him? What is he like when he meets someone he doesn't know? Does he make the first move or does he wait for the other person to approach him? Does he come across like a show-off or is he just very confident or is he neither? Is he more the friendly or the reserved type of guy?

Also, what was your very first guess when you started trying to guess his Ascendant??? Usually the first guess is closest to the actual Ascendant...

posted December 20, 2007 05:53 AM              

Well, I know the ASC of someone; it`s Aries, luckily a quickly rising ASC and that narrows his birthtime to 12:25 - 1:20 p.m.
But how do I get the EXACT degree of his ASC? Are there any possiblities to do that?

He`s blonde, blue-eyed, slender, looking kinda "fragile", comes across as very energetic, bubbly, friendly, entertaining, the "sonnyboy", but has a very serious side, too, openly speaking about his spirituality. As an actor he has played the typical "charming sunnyboy"-roles, can be very silly and clownish, but just recently has turned to very dark and disturbing stuff acting-wise.

His other placements are:
Sun: Capricorn
Moon: Aries
Mercury: Sagittarius
Venus: Capricorn
Mars: Libra (which is his chartruler)

So, how can I narrow down his exact ASC?