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Deliverance
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posted December 27, 2007 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Azalaksh
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posted December 27, 2007 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy Sun Lap, Deli!! (fellow Pisces-Mooner )

I'm not very knowledgeable about Solar Return charts, but I'll have a look at your transits.....

~ Zala

PS: Perhaps you might consider surrounding yourself with friends who would be better ... friends??

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posted December 27, 2007 04:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
happy birthday Deliverance

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Azalaksh
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posted December 27, 2007 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's some transit info, Deli.....

Hits to your Sun ~ first the short and fleeting ones:

tVenus will conjunct your Sun in the 1st soon (end of January) –
You feel invigorated, romantic, magnetic and positively saturated with positivity! Seek out someone whose company brings a smile to your face and escape reality together. Visit parks, gardens and museums, or go to a matinee and pig out on buttery popcorn. Indulge your appetites with rich, flavorful cuisine, the kind that makes you slow down and really savor each bite. Explore the world; it will seem intricately beautiful, vast and suffused with possibility for enjoyment and pleasure. You really won't have to go far to find your fun, though, for it seems to seek you out right now. Though it feels wonderful to spoil yourself with all of these pleasures, don't get in the habit of this sort of indulgence. This is the sort of behavior that you can get away with only for a little while before you begin to notice an increase in your weight or a decrease in your savings! Also, you may feel another sort of urge: an urge to create! Even if you're not someone who considers themselves naturally creative, this desire will lead you into artistic endeavors. Enjoy yourself -- but do so wisely!

tMars will oppose it in mid-March –
Intense competition or conflict is quite likely at this time, especially if you or someone in your life has created angry, competitive energy in the recent past. If there is some situation in your life that is just waiting to boil over -- conflict between you and a coworker or sibling, for example, or someone who has been withholding their aid or support from you -- now is the time when things are likely to come to a head. If so, you will rise to the occasion, even if you are ordinarily more of a passive, acquiescing type. Now you feel you must fight or stand up for your rights in the face of some person or situation that opposes you. This energy is likely to touch your most intimate relationships, including business partnerships and love relationships. You could be very difficult to get along with now; you may actually seek out a battle in order to test your own powers. Beware of acting so abruptly or aggressively that you bring harm to yourself or other people. Alternatively, this could be quite a positive time for you. If you have successfully survived any challenges of late, now could be the time when your hard work and perseverance come to fruition.

The thought of your chart-ruler tJupiter “pouncing” on your Sun makes me giggle – Jupiter seems too dignified (in the godly sense, not the astro-rulership sense) to indulge in such behavior

You’ll get another two hits from tSaturn in the 9th rx’ing then going forward – but that’ll be the trine, which could be a very positive time of growth and structuring. Saturn trines your Sun only once a decade or so, so this is a transit to read up on, be aware of, and most important – take advantage of!! tSaturn will conjunct your MC in a few years, will you be ready??

tPluto won’t be conjuncting your Sun until 2011, so you have plenty of time yet before you must deal with those challenges.

From Liz Greene (for tSaturn in Virgo):

Saturn in the earthy signs and houses

The element of earth is related to the plane of matter in which we all consciously function and pertains to those areas of life where one's efforts, and mistakes, yield tangible results and require tangible tools. Earth is considered a simple element, and it is generally associated with money, resources, security, work, service, and achievement in one's profession. Earth may also be related to the psychological function of sensation; which means that through this function an individual's perception of reality is based on that which he experiences through his five senses and through the use of his concrete or rational mind. It may be assumed from this that there is little mystery about the kind of frustration which ensues from Saturn's placement in earth, and it is here also that the typically Capricornian qualities of perseverance, thrift, caution, and self-discipline are thought to provide the most obvious solution to Saturnian problems.

Earth is not, however, as simple as it is generally considered to be in our basic textbooks. This element has been the unfortunate victim of a body of popular opinion which suggests that matter, or the materialistic view of life, is in contradiction to, or exclusive of, spirit or the spiritualistic view of life. Those unfortunate souls who are predominantly earthy in chart makeup through Sun, Moon, Ascendant, or a stellium of earthy planets are considered in some vague and obscure fashion to be not quite as "evolved" as those coming under the other, more colourful, elements. Because the earthy temperament is concerned with the laws and workings of the physical plane and attempts to direct its creative energy and effort toward the understanding and control of that plane, this temperament is considered materialistic and therefore lacking in vision.

We may often obtain a good view of inner psychic reality from a study of man's myths and of the symbols he chooses to describe his various concepts of his gods. Through these symbols we express what we inwardly value as truth whether or not this is part of a prevailing popular conception of truth. We have chosen to place the birthdate of Jesus under Capricorn, the densest of the earth signs and the most ambitious in the worldly sense, although there is no historical evidence that this birthdate is appropriate. We have also chosen to place the birthdate of Mary at precisely fifteen degrees of Virgo, that most mundane and critical of signs. We also celebrate the birthdate of the Buddha under Taurus, that slowest and most inflexible of signs. The entire esoteric concept of initiation is connected with Capricorn specifically and the earth signs in general because the initiate has not earned his initiation until he is able to apply the higher consciousness he has discovered to the body and the environment in which he functions as a personality. Only when the physical world is made a fitting garment or symbol of the inner spirit is his task complete. The mysteries of the duality of spirit and matter have occupied the thoughts of occultists and mystics throughout the ages, and alchemy and astrology in the form we know them were both outgrowths of this attempt to understand spirit in terms of matter through the law of correspondences. The various myths and motifs which are connected with the symbol of Saturn, from Pan through Satan and Lucifer to the prima materia or "Mercurius Senex" of the alchemists, from the serpent in the Garden to the Hermit of the Tarot deck, should be sufficient to indicate that there is more to earth than meets the eye. And finally we must consider that we exist on the earth itself,. and that we are now beyond doubt demonstrated to be intricately connected through the "etheric" or energy field around us to every other kingdom of nature. There is much that we do not understand about the nature of matter. It may be that when we are told in esoteric literature that earth is the final test of initiation for man, there is also an equally valid rational or scientific law which describes the same truth—but we do not possess it yet.

Saturn in the earthy signs and houses pertains, on the surface, to those problems and limitations which affect an individual through his bodily comfort, his ability to support and sustain himself, his capacity to find meaningful work which allows him a share in the ordering of his environment, and his ability to achieve responsibility or authority in those areas where he has shown competence and skill. This is the simplest interpretation of Saturn in earth, and it will generally be found that this interpretation is valid. It is unfortunate that we are given in the Old Testament the inference that man was driven to labour as a result of original sin for we no longer believe that work can be a creative act. Even God, according to the same document, worked for six days to create the world.

There is a basic need in each man to feel himself useful, and this is connected with what is called "group consciousness"—the sensing of a unity which implies individual responsibility and the need for a contribution, according to ability, to the whole. This group consciousness has nothing to do with enforced contribution or with mass consciousness where the individual has no meaning in himself. There is also a basic need in man to know that he has earned through his labours something permanent which is his unique accomplishment or possession. By it he establishes a sense of his worth to the group. This "something permanent" may be actual material reward. It may also be more abstruse: standards, values, talent, honour, service. Commerce and trade are as valid a form of communication between people as the written and spoken word, and money, as well as being a symbol of emotional independence, may also be a symbol of individual worth and of skills and services which are offered to others. Consequently, when we look to mythology, we find that Mercury, among his many rulerships, was the god of merchants as well as being the divine messenger, and presided in his inimitably suave fashion over the business deal.

It is possible that Saturn in one of the earthy signs or houses offers an opportunity to learn about the deeper meaning of this element since the solution to the frustrations which he symbolises when placed in earth rarely comes about through the application of earthy tools. It would appear that the other three elements must be understood and integrated to form a tool effective enough to influence the apparent dead weight of earth and alleviate the pain of thwarted instinct.

I’m running out of steam here – am home with the flu…... so a couple more comments –

You’ve probably had a pretty rough time the past few years, what with your Saturn Return and Pluto square Moon :-(

What’s been happening recently in your life with tPluto conj nMars in Sag 1H?? Have you changed the way you approach/interact with people, tasks/career, your view of yourself and/or your life-philosophies?? What do you do for a living with Virgo on the Midheaven??

tPluto trining your nChiron recently might have given you an opportunity to heal from some of the hurts you’ve suffered in your life thus far. Judging from what you wrote recently, it seems you might have cut off many opportunities for people to get close to you – thus protecting yourself from being hurt…..

Another note – tNeptune just moved from the 2nd into the 3rd house and is near exact on your Venus/Saturn opposition. Some fogginess, or even delusion, about what exactly you love and value in your life has been bothering you for some time, yes?? When the Outers change houses (or signs), corresponding big changes can occur in your life, as the focus shifts into new areas of life experiences. And tUranus will be within orb of conjuncting our Moons (mine’s at 26) soon – for you it could be as early as next April when you start feeling the urge to break out of the mold and experience new things…..

Anyway, you have some nice events to look forward to, in addition to the challenges that we ALL face as human beings. This is the beginning of a new Solar adventure, a New Year!! I hope you have a fun one :-)

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Purple_Chick_71
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posted December 28, 2007 12:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy Belated Birthday, Deliverance! Awwww...sorry that your friends didn't get you anything. It's always hard after the holidays. My b-day is tomorrow, so I understand. (But I think my friends will be getting me something! Na na na na na na!)

I know next to nothing about solar returns and I'm not so great at interpreting transits, either. I have to say how aweseome it was of Zala to give you all the info she did! Here's a pretty decent site about transits, though...
http://www.planetaryvisions.net/transit%20readings.html

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Sun - Capricorn (10th House)
Moon - Gemini (2nd House)
Mercury - Sagittarius (9th House)
Venus - Aquarius (11th House)
Mars - Aries (12th House)
ASC - Aries

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