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GeminiLover75
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posted January 01, 2008 03:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A while back, a psychic said that I would be going through a lot of stress but that I would be feeling better by December/January. As I often do if or when I get any psychic advice, I doublechecked what transits I would be experiencing at that time, and sure enough Jupiter was going into my first house in December.

When we had the Pluto-Jupiter conjunction, it was exactly conjunct my ascendant and I felt a lot of stress and pressure. Now I'm wondering, with Jupiter now 5 degrees into my first house, why aren't I feeling much better? I thought this was a real "feel-good" transit.

Pluto is now also in my first house by 1 degree (according to astro.com) and I'm still feeling pressure. I have had stressful arguments with Mr Gemini, and I now notice that Mars has retrograded all the way back to my descendant and it is exactly opposing transiting Pluto. sigh. I'm also finding myself worrying about my health and worrying about my near future. I'm totally stressed out, although I am trying not to be.

So my question is, not how to deal with stress or anything like that (cos I know what to do, it's all easier said than done however although I'm doing my best), but rather, when can I expect all this stress and pressure to ease off? When Mars isn't opposing Pluto anymore? Or will it be when these planets get further away from my ascendant and descendant??? Within how many degrees does Pluto not count as being conjunct my ascendant anymore?! And based on what some of you experienced astrologers know, when will I feel more "Jupiter" than "Pluto"? I thought this Pluto transit might be easier for me because of my natal Pluto aspects. :-/ Or is all of this just because Pluto is currently at 29 degrees and maybe everyone feels like this??

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Bucketrider
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posted January 03, 2008 01:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have pluto transiting my first house and it is about 10 degrees from my ASC. Jupiter is about 13 degrees into the house. I feel both effects but they are mostly outward. The first house represents your outer self. How you meet the world. I am sure you know this. The effect of jupiter for me has been generally - when I am in casual social settings, i.e. not family or close relationships - more good cheer, optimistic, quicker to be engaging, open with people I dont know, etc It is really limited to that domain though. It is not an overall feel good transit like jupiter conjunct sun or moon would be.

Pluto in the first house is pretty dif and has been about transforming how I intially appear to people. It has set off several rounds of analytical thinking of what message I am putting out in brief encounters. NOT intimate or close relationships. Its issues have been fundamentally first house and ascendent issues. Its been there since 2004.

As far as pluto on the ASC. I would say it would only be active, i.e. event oriented within a degree or two. If your ASC is at 29 sag - it just started being effected as of the last couple of months and will last for the better part of this year as it does its usual round of 3 degrees at a time. It is effecting 28.5 sag -almost 1 cap.

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GeminiLover75
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posted January 03, 2008 02:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool, thanks for sharing your experience of this, bucketrider! My asc is at 28 degrees Sag, so I guess I've been affected for a while longer. Interestingly, I've been finding it easier to transform my appearance than it would usually be for me - things like suddenly finding a lot of new and different clothes that suit me, different ways to do my hair and stuff like that, and I'm liking the results. In other outward ways I don't feel as though I'm much different with other people, but maybe those changes will come later in the year or once the Mars opposition/retrograde is over... I think it has been the Mars transit that's been the worst for me lately really.

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teaologist
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posted January 03, 2008 09:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi GeminiLover,

Don't you have Venus in Gemini? I have it at 8 degs; tSaturn in Virgo is currently squaring it. It's doing a number on me, but there are other things going on that are A-OK at the same time.

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Bucketrider
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posted January 03, 2008 01:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars/pluto hard aspect transits are challenging and probably more than any other - deal with open confrontation. Especially if they are on an angle. I just went through one in november. Being that mars is in retro and moving slower than usual - it lasted for over a month bec it docked within a degree of my pluto and just stayed there. I have natal pluto/MC in 10 so there were major flair ups at work. When mars moved off my pluto, amazingly, the "war" stopped and everything is peaceful once again. Though it did take some diplomacy and working through. Some things needed to change. The nature of my work relationships needed to shift and they did.

Hang in there. The most stressful moments are brief.

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GeminiLover75
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posted January 03, 2008 04:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhh... true, teaologist. My Venus is in Gemini at 14 degrees... so I would guess that transiting Saturn could be having some effect there. I'll go and look that up. So it seems there is that going on in addition to these more obvious transits...

Yeah bucketrider it has been like a "war" in many regards but it's also due to the way our own personalities are interacting with the transits, if you see what I mean. Or at least, the transits are making things more obvious. He's gearing up for excitement and change (Gemini/Aries/Aries), which I'd usually be happy about too (Sag rising), but with a lot of stressful incidents and situations and frustrations happening for me right now (tPluto conj ASC opposite tMars) I just want to take cover and have some stability and security (Taurus/Scorpio). Right on the brink of us going overseas, I feel more Taurus/Scorpio than I ever have before in my *life* and all I want to do is put roots down in a home of our own and find some security. I would feel happier going overseas if I knew we had a home to come back to! But overall I think I have a lot of insecurities and fears about it because there are no definite plans, and I haven't been able to secure things like an internet connection so that I can work (I work remotely and my job requires me to work 30 hours per week while I'm away), a place to housesit after the first four weeks (we wanted to have this all organised before leaving), no plans have been set and it's really undermining my sense of security. If I didn't have to work while I'm away, I would be less worried and I could just 'wing it', but I feel so stressed out by the thought of not meeting my work responsibilities (tSaturn is in my 10th house). On top of that I'm having anxiety and on the verge of panic attacks about it all, now made worse by finding a lump in my neck which is in all likelihood a raised gland that will go away, but all I can do is worry about it because I want it to go away before I go overseas! I was worried about my back and shoulder injury giving me trouble so I got reiki, and everything has improved enough just in time... but it seems like as soon as it got better, there is a new issue to deal with. So I am feeling overwhelmed with worries, and I know that it's stressing Mr Gemini out because he just wants this to be fun. So do I, but it seems like circumstances just keep getting in my way (Mars retrograde!!!). Also there have been arguments and potential arguments with my former flatmates because somebody didn't pay their rent and now there are arrears of over $700 which we are all being held responsible for even though I personally do not owe any of this money, and now it looks as though I won't get my bond payment refunded to me. Moving out was stressful too. I always used to be able to 'roll with the punches' so to speak, but I'm finding it much more difficult these days.

Right now I'm just doing what I can do deal with stress - trying to relax, diaphragmatic breathing, Bach Flowers, chamomile tea, plus trying to get myself some peace of mind by looking more into housesitting options in Australia, etc. I would like everything to stop whirring around in my head so much.

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