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stillatlarge
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posted January 04, 2008 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are these people at TMZ and the other media trying to push Britney completely over the edge? They've stalked and harassed her relentlessly. TMZ is the main culprit. It's almost the entire focus of all their paparazzi and the website itself. If you've ever been there you know how sadistic they are. It isn't as if they are following her out of concern. They are really morbid and evil. It's like they've made it their mission to drive her to insanity and or suicide and it looks like they're gloating that they've finally broke her. It's as if they want another Anna Nicole story. Am I the only one that sees this?! They don't mess with other celebrities like they do her It's unprecedented. They caught hell for taking one picture at Julia Roberts' daycare yet they endanger Britney's kids all the time. They don't do this to male celebrities who are in much worse shape than she is. They even try to provoke and set up incidents where she will do something that they can twist and spin to make her look as bad as possible. And since when is any of this even news? They didn't follow Whitney Houston, Danny Bonoduce, Tom Sizemore or any of these other people like this. This is not funny anymore. They need to leave her alone.
So do the enemies show in her chart? I did the one for today. Maybe I should've done yesterday...

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posted January 04, 2008 11:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what I remember shes a Libra rising not Aries.

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posted January 05, 2008 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Before we point fingers at the stalking tactics of the camera wielding paps maybe we should ask the obvious.
    Who pays the salaries? Answer? The public. If the public-at-large did not buy/click-on and demand it with the money, the media frenzy for every bathroom break would not exist.
The general publics buying dollar pays the salaries for those photo-ops. And the 'doings' of Paris/Danny/Britney/X football players/Playboy bunnies et all would be dropped like third grade French class without public demand for it.

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posted January 05, 2008 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted January 05, 2008 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my opinion she has brought all of this on herself.. shes a rich bich. how old is she? like almost 30? she needs to grow up. once she stops doing stupid sh*t then the paparazzi will get bored with her and find a new story.. doing drugs? drinking? clubbing, sleeping around.. neglecting kids!!!.. acting like she can do whatever the f*ck she wants to? The bich needs to learn some dicipline. and yes people are going to want to know whats next and watch a girl like that who has had everything so that they have a good example of what not to do and to teach them to be grateful for what they have.. for a pisces who is furthest on the cycle for karma or whatever I would expect more.. if she cant learn to turn her life around and be a responsible mother and own up to her duties as a parent and an icon then she can go to hell.

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posted January 05, 2008 01:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Britney has brought this on herself. She goes out driving around just to get attention. She changes clothes several times a day just so the paps can take different pics of her.

On the other hand, I feel for her. She's had 2 kids and a divorce all within a limited time frame. As most women know, the adjustment involved with having just 1 child is MAJOR-- not including the possible Post Partem Depression.

Also, the first year following a divorce is a very crazy time for a person.

So, adding up all crap she's gone thru -- theres no doubt she needs serious help. But she's going to have to want it first. No one can change without wanting to change.

Her poor kids though. I feel sorry for them. She's so caught up in her own world that it seems she doesn't give a rat's behind... But then again, look at how many men abandon their children.

This seems like a case of a lost girl who wanted it all (fame, a husband, kids...), got it, and it still didn't fill the void in her life. She's searching for something, and until she faces herself, nothing will ever make her happy.

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posted January 05, 2008 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been waiting for someone other than myself to bring this up.

This is a good example of how Jupiter will give you enough rope to hang yourself.(Jupiter transiting her Sun sign)

Notice how many close calls she's had, yet she always seems to come out a step ahead.

Well guess what?
Jupiter has moved on (Cap) and it will no longer be there to catch her when she falls.
Now she will have to account for her actions.

Hotels are banning her, her Attorney's don't want to work for her and she's turned into more trouble than she's worth.

What she needs is intervention before she kills herself.
Obviously the threat of losing her children was not enough to make her clean up.
In a sense she chose her lifestyle over the welfare of her kids.

The girl needs help.

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pidaua
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posted January 05, 2008 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amen LLL

Britney is doing this to herself. She needs the attention and has relied on luck to bail her out. She's had Pluto and Jupiter to contend with but even us Archer gals have to know when not to push our luck.

Jupiter also rules things related to the law- yes it's about luck and expansion but also about learning and fair judgements. She has played around too long, put herself in horrible positions and now the piper has come calling.

I feel sorry for her but I feel more sorry for her kids. She is unfit and needs help badly.

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posted January 05, 2008 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was just thinking about you

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posted January 05, 2008 05:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i see your point stillatlarge and suggest you don't listen to the moralists know-it-all who tell you that she should do this or that to remain respectable cause themselves are not exempt of critism if they judge someone else.
i wish her the best (and i dont talk about money here)

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posted January 05, 2008 07:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah man. i think the poor girl just has no friends. look at the life that was chosen for her. i mean, no little 13 year old girl *wants* to become a bimbo/sex symbol that young, and if they do, it's for the money/fame aspect, etc.. so really, it's not very fair what has happened to her. and i think she is just a bit "touched" as they say, so i don't think she's totally aware. she seems like she's stuck at 12 years old mentally/emotionally..

the thing with the paps.. a very respectable radio station here in canada (CBC) had an interview with a guy who, i think, is doing a documentary on papparazzi culture, and he said that he hung out outside her house all the time and that the paps were pretty much all her friends and that she WANTED the attention. well, duh, if you have no friends..

don't think that means she deserves all the negative **** happening to/around her.. and of course not all of them are her friends. but i think she is just in over her head and doesn't know who to trust. which is kind of understandable. i wish she would just go on a retreat or something. and stop doing drugs.

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posted January 05, 2008 08:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I feel more sorry of her kids than of herself.

She is almost 30 years old but she seems to have a mind of a 15year old really.

I really dont like to judge anyone but in her case we can see that she´s much more worried with herself than with her own children - in my view,the most important beings to a Mother.

She didnt cared about what she was doing - either to her or to her kids - she didnt stopped drugs,drinking,putting her children in danger..it´s not the Paparazzi who made her do this,it was herself to chose this.

While she was young and with no responsabilities of higher importance she could do whatever she wanted - but at the point she is a Mother she must be responsible and caring.

you know,Fame isnt for everyone - there are ones who knows to deal with it and with the exposure and excessive money but she obviously isnt one.

Money can very well corrupt what we have of best and making people live only on their worst.

Look at Angelina Jolie for example.She also had passed throw Hell sometimes and been into dark things - but at her now. She´s a bright example of a Mom,Wife and Humanitarian Being - she has money,fame,she´s a sexual ícon also- but she choose to follow the right Path.

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posted January 05, 2008 10:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm pretty sure she's had mental health issues for quite some time now.

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posted January 05, 2008 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MiaMammy08     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
because she grew up in the spotlight, she lost a lot of her childhood experiences. And I am sure that her parents didn't help either. I would never encourage my child to enter the entertainment industry because it is detrimental to their health and metal state. I love Britney. And one day she will come around but she is gonna need a lot of help. I am also not impressed that her mother doesn't show her that she supports her no matter what just because she is her mother. Stage parents are so funny.

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posted January 05, 2008 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bipolun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seriously people are you all blind? She is going through mental issues , have you ever been through a mental breakdown? Well I have. There was times when I was going through a manic episode and I couldn't stay still, all I did was walk around all day and night trying to find people to talk to.

When nobody listened to me I would start doing crazy things, I was in and out of the hospital and in and out of jail.

Famous or not when you get a mental illness it is never pretty, the only difference is that people weren't following me around 24 hours a day to see the crazy stuff I was doing!

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pidaua
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posted January 05, 2008 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nobody is blind. We can call see what has become of her and hopefully she will get the help she needs. Still, there are two children involved, mental illness or not. WE are ALL responsible for our actions, regardless if we are celebrities or worker bees.

She has been dealing with these issues since 2004 and some say since 2002 when she and Timberlake broke up. I am sure she has stress, but so does the average single mother trying to raise two children with a limited income.

I don't do this "feel sorry for the celebrity" thing well when she has done it again and again. Some clean up their acts, others do not.

And for the record.. Whitney Houston WAS followed around quite extensively, as was Robert Downey Jr with his escapades. Danny Bonaduce went to the press and even to Dr. Phil and his fair shair of paps stalking him.

This is not a Male vs Female thing.

I wonder if people would give her the same benefit of the doubt if she was a regular Miss and endangered her children and acted out as she is doing? I think people would have a MUCH different judgement of her if she was not a celebrity and if she was not made of money.

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posted January 05, 2008 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It will be interesting to see. Right now, she is going through her Saturn return. Her nSaturn was at 19 Libra in her 1st house. Right now Saturn is at 21 Libra. Huge life lessons are right in and is not handling it at all.

As a Sag myself, my Saturn return was a huge life-changing time of my life and I was never the same in a good way. I hope it will be the same for her once she realizes what she needs to do to stop this crazy time for her and get some help

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posted January 05, 2008 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
celebrities usually get special treatment.
regular people go to jail for a month or longer for drunk driving....especially if they are black. But celebrities get off with much less time.

it's ridiculous.

also....I don't feel sorry for Britney. She did bring it on herself. She has mental illness.....so what. I have mental illness too. I have diagnosed Generalized Anxiety Disorder,Dysthmic Disorder,and Avoidant Personality Disorder. I don't do the wild,crazy stuff that she has done. I care about how others think and feel about me. I am responsible for my own actions. When I did something wrong,I blame myself. I don't blame my mental health problems nor others. It was a schizophrenic who shot my mother when I was almost 3 years old and present with her at the time,and he only got 12 years. I believe mentally ill people shouldn't get any special treatment when it comes to punishment. If you commit violent act,you should be locked up for a good long time. If you kill somebody,you should get life in prison or even the death penalty.

I feel very sorry for her children,and I hope that their mother gets help. I hope that they grow up to be functional children. I don't want them growing up messed up because of a dysfunctional parent. I had very dysfunctional homelife including especially with a mother who had serious mental health issuses who was physically/verbally abusive to me. I don't want any children to go through what I went through.

Britney needs to straighten up for her children.

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posted January 05, 2008 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well said Glaucus

BlueTopaz,

Yep, I remember my Saturn return and it wasn't fun. I didn't have half the issues she did but I did get married while 7 planets transited my 8th house in Taurus. After Saturn hit Gemini and made my Sun / Venus in Sag a sandwich with Pluto, I was finalizing my divorce. Things got a bit haywire and I wondered when the lessons would end. Still, I didn't go out and try to act a fool either- then again, I do not have a mental illness. That said, I don't believe a mental illness translates into insane, destructive behaviour, just like Glaucus said. He has lived with his mental issues for a lifetime yet has not harmed others.

It is about responsiblity- that is the bottom line. If she is feeling out of control then it's time to see a counselor. I could understand if this was a breakdown and she felt she needed to protect her kids, but downing a bottle of vodka and then holding kids hostage isn't going to sit well with the children. They will remember it.

Poor kids

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posted January 05, 2008 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://qwww.tmz.com/2008/01/05/britney-takes-phil-pill/

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Britney Takes Phil Pill
Posted Jan 5th 2008 1:58PM by TMZ Staff

And guess what else we've confirmed ...

TMZ has learned that Dr. Phil paid a visit to Brit this morning -- and she could return the favor next week by appearing on "The Dr. Phil Show."

The show is taping a special about Britney Spears on Monday, which will air on Wednesday. They requested video of Britney from TMZ on Friday.

When you connect the dots, it's pretty clear they are angling to get Britney on the set on Monday.


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she is going through her Saturn return. Her nSaturn was at 19 Libra in her 1st house. Right now Saturn is at 21 Libra

Isn't Saturn at 8 degrees Virgo right now, or am I missing something? She's only 26! Transiting Saturn will be on her natal Saturn in October 2011.
Saturn has very recently entered her 12th house. Robert Hand says about this transit: "[Saturn in 12th] During this time you are more likely to feel guilty and to brood about your inadequacies. But these feelings are neither productive nor therapeutic".

If the birth time I found is correct, the next (potentially) extremely difficult transits for her would happen next year, when the transiting Pluto will be squaring her ascendant and opposing her MC. In 2010 Pluto will continue sitting on her IC, and the transiting Saturn will conjunct her Ascendant. In 2011 it's Uranus' turn to harass her ascendant (opposition) and MC (square).

The birth details I found give her a 2 degree Libra ascendant.

If you want to read more about those transits, go for example to Happy Dragon's site: http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jkbx/audiofls.html#trannys

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lalalinda
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posted January 05, 2008 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
very well put nightjar

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posted January 05, 2008 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for braveheart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Diandra23 you said::
"""""Look at Angelina Jolie for example.She also had passed throw Hell sometimes and been into dark things - but at her now. She´s a bright example of a Mom,Wife and Humanitarian Being - she has money,fame,she´s a sexual ícon also- but she choose to follow the right Path"""""

I don't think Angelina Jolie is a good role model either. I read (and I know that you shouldn't believe everything you read, but if you believe it about Britney than you have to believe it about AJ) that she treats her biologial daughter differently than she does her adopted children. IMO this is not being a good mother. You should love all your children the same, with no favourites. Also I read that she knew Brad wanted a baby and she fell pregnant to get him. If this is true, then that is really sad. I'm sorry if this is off topic and sounds like a rant. LOL.

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The Britney thing seems to snowball, but I think there came a point (as it did with Heather Mills) where what she was doing wasn't assertive, or even mildly funny, any more. These people are just after publicity at any price and it wears thin after a while, because they don't generally have something worthwhile to offer, that is built on firm foundations. In fact, I think this is part of the problem.

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Guys, what you read in the media, you shouldn't be so willing to accept as the truth.

she is NOT a drug addict, and this can be proved in the many drug tests she's gone through, throughout the whole custody case. not ONE of them have come out positive, but they have been still testing her for drugs, even after the head shave, because they did not know that she is MENTALLY ILL.


now, i know most of you will be thinking she's a trainwreck like Lindsay Lohan or Paris Hilton. truth is, she's psychologically damaged, and has been diagnosed with Bi-Polar Disorder.


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Bipolar disorder, also known as manic-depressive illness, is a brain disorder that causes unusual shifts in a person’s mood, energy, and ability to function. Different from the normal ups and downs that everyone goes through, the symptoms of bipolar disorder are severe. They can result in damaged relationships, poor job or school performance, and even suicide. But there is good news: bipolar disorder can be treated, and people with this illness can lead full and productive lives.

Signs and symptoms of mania:

Increased energy, activity, and restlessness
Excessively “high,” overly good, euphoric mood
Extreme irritability
Racing thoughts and talking very fast, jumping from one idea to another
Distractibility, can’t concentrate well
Little sleep needed
Unrealistic beliefs in one’s abilities and powers
Poor judgment
Spending sprees
A lasting period of behavior that is different from usual
Increased sexual drive
Abuse of drugs, particularly cocaine, alcohol, and sleeping medications
Provocative, intrusive, or aggressive behavior
Denial that anything is wrong


Lasting sad, anxious, or empty mood
Feelings of hopelessness or pessimism
Feelings of guilt, worthlessness, or helplessness
Loss of interest or pleasure in activities once enjoyed, including sex
Decreased energy, a feeling of fatigue or of being “slowed down”
Difficulty concentrating, remembering, making decisions
Restlessness or irritability
Sleeping too much, or can’t sleep
Change in appetite and/or unintended weight loss or gain
Chronic pain or other persistent bodily symptoms that are not caused by physical illness or injury
Thoughts of death or suicide, or suicide attempts

Signs and symptoms that may accompany suicidal feelings include:

talking about feeling suicidal or wanting to die
feeling hopeless, that nothing will ever change or get better
feeling helpless, that nothing one does makes any difference
feeling like a burden to family and friends
abusing alcohol or drugs
putting affairs in order (e.g., organizing finances or giving away possessions to prepare for one’s death)
writing a suicide note
putting oneself in harm’s way, or in situations where there is a danger of being killed



NEARLY EVERYTHING is this list describes Britney Spears. she isn't on drugs, even when she was hospitalised two days ago, tests came back NEGATIVE! she's lost her mind with the constant tabloid and media pressure, she has it tough more than any other celebrity, i can guarantee you that. otherwise we all wouldn't be talking about her.

i think it will be hard for the public to come to terms with her mental disorder, other than blaming it on drugs or alcohol. you CANNOT blame a person for having a mental illness, and people are going to find it very difficult to accept that the trainwreck we though she was, has just had some serious mental issues going in her mind.

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