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belgz
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posted January 11, 2008 05:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why is as-tro-logy not doing its job and me and this guy have not started a relationship and arnt married by now?
We have an exact conjunction of mercury and venus and our moons are trine, also his mars (masc) is conjunct my sun and my venus (fem) is conjunct his sun.

How come when everything looks so perfect astrologically speaking and current transits are good but nothings coming out of it?? What am i not seeing?

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Peri
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posted January 11, 2008 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It takes two to dance

Your transits looks great but as you can see there are no such transits in his chart, however he has progressed Jupiter R1 trine Venus, and progressed Mercury R7 trine natal Jupiter R1, maybe it will work for you I also see that his ASC is 1 Sag, there is a probability that his time of birth may not be very accurate and he might as well have Taurus on DSC, and Scorpio on ASC, progressed Venues does not make any aspects, neither does Pluto but then there is an aspect from Jupiter co-R1 to Venus R7.

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belgz
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posted January 11, 2008 06:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The second chart is our composite not his chart. The day i met him he started a relationship with another girl not long before but i still think me and him are meant to be together. I think they will break up. Hes always flirting with me but i think its a problem because hes kind of like my manager at work.

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Peri
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posted January 11, 2008 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh I see, you should check his chart then.

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted January 11, 2008 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Belgz,

I'm sorry to hear your frustrated with this, but I can point out some astrological measurements that can suggest some issues here.

Two things I noticed right away is that your Saturn squares his Mars and conjuncts your Mercury and Sun. Cancer is a weak spot for Mars already so when your Saturn squares it, that can put a damper on his sex drive and cause arguments. Now, if you say his sex drive is fine, I believe you. These are just suggestions, but it can be a big argument measurement. His Mars conjuncts your Mercury, that's more arguing I see. His Mars also conjuncts your Sun, that can be great sexual chemistry, but once again it can be explosively argumentative and competitive. These are the harshest measurements I see at first glance.

I see that his Venus conjuncts your Ascendant and I'm sure that can feel marvelous, but your Neptune squares his Venus and that combination can suggest confusion, deception, and even suppression within love matters.

I see that your Venus opposes his Moon and his Venus squares your Moon. You two have loving emotions for each other, but you may be on separate pages when it comes to your values about your style of loving or truly understanding and respecting each other's feelings, it can also be suggestive of jealousy.

Even though Venus square Mars can be great sexual chemistry, it is also an aspect of great jealousy as well.

With that grand trine you have of your Saturn-Pluto trine his Moon trine your Moon, there's deep emotion there and a touch of longevity. Even with his Saturn square your Mars, it may add to the feeling that you expect more partnership longevity, especially since Mars co-rules your 7th house of partnerships, but it looks like this relationship isn't all sunshine and roses, but no relationships is, so I think that with the Mercury-Venus conjunction you both have, you should discuss it, because you are expressing that you need more of a committment and you're ready to move on to the next step.

Express what you want and need and let him express what he wants and needs and/or give him a little time to figure that out since, in my experience, a lot of guys don't quite understand that we want things to be kicked up a notch in the relationships and marriage department.

Did any of this ring a bell for you?

I hope things work out.

Geocosmic Valentine
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belgz
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posted January 11, 2008 06:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes i understand but he constantly flirts with me and hes very funny. Im not sure of any jealousy issues i dont even know how he is in his personal life i only see him at work i always think to myself whether hes always this happy and funny at home as well. Maybe i should just forget about it. I fall in love with someone new every week lol but this one lasted 2 months. My mum even thinks i want him cause i cant have him and if i didn have him i wouldnt want him. But something about him makes me want him. Probably because he has a really nice tone of voice and hes playful. My gemini moon loves that i think and hes mars in cancer makes him caring and his sun goes well with my venus and love of leo.

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted January 11, 2008 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm laughing now because I didn't read it clearly that you HAVE NOT STARTED A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM!! OH.

And that he has a relationship with someone else.

Well, now it all makes sense. Also, planets do nothing, people do.

His Neptune square Venus might suggest why he flirts with you while he has another girlfriend. But I bet you're not the only other woman he flirts with. But I venture to say that you look very attractive and what guy in his right mind wouldn't flirt with you. You are a beautiful woman.

Geocosmic Valentine

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belgz
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posted January 11, 2008 06:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you think that saturn conjunct venus in our COMPOSITE chart would be preventing a relationship or could it start a serious relationship? Also uranus opposed our composite venus and jupiter soon to trine it when it goes through capricorn. Maybe ill just wait.....

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posted January 11, 2008 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Belgz,

You have to remember that a Composite chart is a chart of an ACTUAL relationship and you don't really have one with him unless you consider it to be the flirtatious friendship you have with him now. The Venus-Saturn conjunction in synastry or composite usually suggests a control factor affecting a relationship trying to get off the ground. Remember that Saturn blocks things, freezes things, limits things, it's very heavy and rock solid. Yes, that conjunction can suggest loyalty and a strong committment, but once again, that would be "IF" you had a relationship with him

Even in your synastry, there are several measurements suggesting that there are blockages and that things are not quite what they seem and that emotional values are not balanced between you. In simple terms, he's not available.

You have to remember, many people talk about ending relationships and they don't do it. Some people do and then they jump right back into them. But, you never know.

I would forget about the composite unless you actually get into a real relationship with him.

Geocosmic Valentine

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Green Fairy
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posted January 11, 2008 06:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's wrong with you in the first place?

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belgz
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posted January 11, 2008 06:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont know why is there something wrong with me?

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Azalaksh
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posted January 11, 2008 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
belgz ~
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Do you think that saturn conjunct venus . . . would be preventing a relationship or could it start a serious relationship?
Geocosmic Valentine is a *PROFESSIONAL* astrologer. Are you just ignoring the following *very important* sentence of hers??
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Also, planets do nothing, people do.
Why are you trying to project off onto a giant ball of gas orbiting our Sun the fact that your not sleeping with someone??
Events are OUR department. What people choose to do (or not do) with their potentials is THEIR department. Neither Saturn, nor any of the other balls of frozen or superheated gas or hunks of icy rock out there *MAKE* you or anyone else do/be anything.

PS: Could you explain to me exactly what the "job of as-tro-logy" IS???

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belgz
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posted January 11, 2008 08:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll chose to ackowledge something after I'VE read it and after I'VE understood it and I'VE taken it into consideration. By they way we were typing at the same times and its ***NORMAL*** to bypass some of the info written, and for ur info i didnt say astrology should make something happen i was wondering why if we were both attracted and we had favourable transits whats preventing it that i cant see. And as far as im concerned astrology does predict what CAN happen if your good enough. Everyone here knows then pluto transits it effects our mental state and when saturn transits it causes blockages and now ur telling me
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Neither Saturn, nor any of the other balls of frozen or superheated gas or hunks of icy rock out there *MAKE* you or anyone else do/be anything.

Your such a hypocrite why dont u just stay out of my topic u cockroach!
Your annoying ...

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Azalaksh
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posted January 11, 2008 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Your such a hypocrite why dont u just stay out of my topic u cockroach!
Your annoying ...
Why, thank you, belgin
Especially for letting me in on this:
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Everyone here knows then pluto transits it effects our mental state and when saturn transits it causes blockages

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belgz
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posted January 11, 2008 11:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah i see you must be going through some bad transits. Well i have mars in cancer maybe thats whats making me snappy. LoL

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ASC: Virgo

Sun: Cancer
Moon: Gemini
Mars: Cancer
Mercury: Cancer
Venus: Leo

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted January 12, 2008 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok so I got the impression that you were already in a steady relationship with this guy?? lol

he has a girlfriend? well thats a dealbreaker right there.. show some respect and leave it be right there.. if you by chance someday here that he is single then you can make an attempt to start something. otherwise respect a relationship and stay away.


for being 24 you seem very naive and childish. have you ever asked yourself why you attract such negative criticism from the women on this forum??

Prove the world wrong and get yourself out of the Pretty, Silly, Slutty girl stereotype. is that how you want to be known? sorry but im only trying to help you. it seems you need alot of tough love.

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Glaucus
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posted January 12, 2008 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is my 2 cents.

If he has a girlfriend, then you should move on. Go find somebody else. Don't waste your time with him. Also Geocosmic is right,his flirting with you doesn't necessarily mean that he's really into you. He could be doing that to any attractive woman.

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ErickaF
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posted January 12, 2008 01:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geocosmic Valentine: would you say someone with Chiron squared/opposed North Node in composite indicates a painful relationship???

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SagSun
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posted January 12, 2008 05:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Belgz, I feel for you!!! And other than the previous posters I don't think that you should give up all hope to ever be with your guy. Love doesn't always come when you want it to. Sometimes those things take time. And just because he is dating someone else right now that doesn't necessarily mean that the two of you will never be together. People stay with their partners out of several reasons, even though they are actually in love with someone else. Just because he is staying with his girlfriend, that does not mean that your love doesn't stand a chance. Believe me, I've been there and as long as you feel in your heart that he is the one for you, you shouldn't move on. Now, don't get me wrong ... I am not saying that you should throw yourself at him if he doesn't show any interest in you ... but if he actually makes advances towards you then I don't see why you shouldn't go along with it.

Astrologically speaking, your synastry looks awesome. I particularly like the Venus/Chiron trine (even though it is at a wide orb). This one signifies true love if other aspects indicate an attraction as well (and you guys have a lot of strong aspects between you).

And as a side note: Don't let the narrow-minded know-it-alls in this forum get to you!!! Just hang in there!!!

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belgz
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posted January 12, 2008 06:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ohh wow thanks so much for that lovely comment SagSun. Im glad someone understood me rather than criticise me. Ive never made a move on him. We flirt at work but we can feel something (i know he can too) that others cant see. And his relationship was very new when we met as well im attracted toh im but i dont mind if hes happy with someone else i dont care if i never have him as long as hes happy. But im very attracted to him. Hes very bubbly and funny and such a sweet guy. Everyone at my work likes him i think. But yeah everytime i like someone something always goes wrong!!
Isnt pluto trine venus meant to create something good? Well not make it happen but you know what i mean...

Thanks once again...

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Sun: Cancer
Moon: Gemini
Mars: Cancer
Mercury: Cancer
Venus: Leo

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belgz
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posted January 12, 2008 06:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OH and thankyou Geocosmic Valentine as well for your time.

xxx

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starrym
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posted January 13, 2008 09:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as for the moon-neptune opposition, i think there can be quite a bit of emotional haziness, perhaps blowing-out-of-proportions, but... this is an aspect that is already present within your natal chart, so chances are, if these factors are present, they have been there in past relationships, or in your general approach to relationships with people of your generation.

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Purple_Chick_71
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posted January 13, 2008 12:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
StarryM - you brought up an interesting point that I've wondered about. What's the deal when you see something in a composite chart or in synastry that may be a difficult aspect, but one or both people have the same aspect in their own charts? Does that make the aspect easier to deal with, and maybe even a positive thing (like comfort/familiarity/understanding)?

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Sun - Capricorn (10th House)
Moon - Gemini (2nd House)
Mercury - Sagittarius (9th House)
Venus - Aquarius (11th House)
Mars - Aries (12th House)
ASC - Aries

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted January 13, 2008 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Erica F.,

I don't really work with Chiron as I haven't studied it deeply. I only know that Chiron is considered the "Wounded Healer" and that hard aspects of any planet or point to the Nodal Axis would suggest some kind of deep connection between two people. I'm sure there are many explainations for it. You might want to ask "Iqhunk" he seems to be extremely knowledgeable about the Asteroids.

I've also seen "Venusdeindia" speak quite knowledgeably on the subject of Asteroids as well here.

Hi Belgz,

You're welcome. You never really know what can happen, we just try to take the least painful path through life. I say that life is messy and there is a lot of grey area that we live in. Just have fun in your life, even though you like him, stay open to meeting others. I probably don't have to tell you that as you've already mentioned that you seem to fall in love every few months so, I'm not worried about you in this situation. Have a great weekend.

Geocosmic Valentine

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