posted January 22, 2008 12:52 PM            

I am gonna put our bdays just incase some one is interested..

posted January 22, 2008 02:25 PM            

I'm gonna post this on your "Soul Unions" thread also, just to make sure I find you.

I can see that you both really love each other. You even have some strong longevity signatures in your chart comparison.

Today I'm running a special on "The Magi Mystical Triangle" even though I'm not sure if it's a true measurement or not. But you both have one in case you are really into the Magi thing.

You both have some stressful measurements, but some of them are what I would call "lucky stressors". The Jupiter-Uranus square doesn't frighten me, the Venus-Mars-Saturn conjunction with Chiron in the mix is definitely a mover and shaker in the comparison. You may correct me if I'm wrong but it appears that you have may have a temper as suggested by the Mars-Saturn conjunction in your chart. Then his Pluto comes along and opposes that conjunction and his Venus-Moon-Chiron comes along and warms it up nicely, but Chiron is in there either stirring up wounded/healing trouble or whatever. That particular focus point in the chart only the two of you can clarify, but his fear of committment shows up as your Saturn freezing up his Venus.

The Venus-Saturn conjunction doesn't always suggest fear, but that little bugger is a tough, hard knot that needs to be worked out. Your charts look so good together, it looks like together you two could build and successfully run an empire.

I think you work out your temper stuff with at the gym. I wouldn't be surprised if you told me that you were a body builder or you climb the mountain wall at the gym. I'm glad to hear that you are athletic because it definitely works out that anger and control energy.

Once again, feel free to tell me that I'm wrong.

But, you still feel his love because he still loves you and I'd like to bet anyone some money that you two aren't really over yet. I think he would be an idiot to throw you away, especially at his age right now.

That could be what you're feeling, his serious thinking about what he should be doing with his life right now. If he doesn't come back to you, I'm gonna make him a button that says, "KICK ME!! I'M A BIG GIANT IDIOT!! "

Your Venus-Moon conjunction straddles his Nodal Axis. BOOOM!!!! SOUL-MATES!!!!

Did he just move or go temporarily insane (the insane thing is a joke, sorry if I insulted you or him). There is an energy of rebellion that seems to have recently happened for him, a very strong need for freedom, perhaps that was your break up, but you are receiving telepathic messages from the guy, he is in deep thought about you.

Last but not least, an October break-up is not a lot of time, 3 months after a break up from a relationship like this, it's gonna take more time to dissipate if you've been together for 3 or almost 4 years.

I'm gonna shut up now, I feel I've gone on with stream of conscious thought for too long. But if you can, let me know if any of this rings true.

Good luck to you.

Geocosmic Valentine
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posted January 22, 2008 02:29 PM            

Your Saturn conjuncts his Venus with 1'16 orb and his Moon with 1'43 orb,and that can be a strong bond that is very serious,committed but can be limiting,restricting. A relationship that can feel heavy in a karmic,obliging way.

I see that there is strong sexual chemistry with your Venus square his Mars with 1'26 orb and his Venus conjunct your Mars with 2'54 orb. But that Venus square Mars in synastry can be very conflicting,stressful as well as can be aggressive...can turn into a love n' hate relationship.

Your Venus conjunct his North Lunar Node with 1'27 orb and your Moon conjunct his North Lunar Node with 3'18 orb. His North Lunar Node sextiles your Midheaven with 6 minutes of arc, ,and that could indicate that you feel like you two were soulmates and belong together.

His Juno is conjunct your South Lunar Node with 10 minutes of arc,and that could indicate an instinctive feeling of being relationship partners.....could be due to pastlife,if you believe in stuff like that. His Uranus is conjunct your South Node too with with 1'32 orb. Actually he has Juno conjunct Uranus,and it conjuncts your South Node.....so it could indicate a possibility of him being an unpredictable,independent relationship partner in the past with you. His Moon oppose Uranus can indicate somebody emotionally unpredictable and feeling the need to be independent.

His Pluto trines your Moon with 14 minutes of arc,and that could indicate that he can intensify,transform you emotionally,unconsciously. There can be deep,soulful feelings between you two...but more from you because you're the moon person. Definitely an intense,transformational connection overall.

Your Ascendants square with 1 degree orb,and that can be a strong physical,personal connection,but it can also indicate stress,conflict in your personalities and how you approach life. Close squares between any of the big 3(Sun,Moon,Ascendant) can be very challenging in a relationship.

In the composite:

Sun-Moon-Venus-North Lunar Node are conjunct in Pisces, and that could indicate a strong romantic,soul connection
But Uranus quincunx Venus with only 9 minutes of arc and quincunx Moon with 1'01 orb. That indicates that the relationship can be unpredictable and strong need for independence. This can lead to detachment so separation happens.

Pluto squares Ascendant with 4'13 orb and parallel the Ascendant with 24 minutes of arc, and that could indicate that the relationship was intense,transformational....but it can be obsessive. With hard Pluto aspects, there can be a problem with letting go because the connection is so powerful,intense.

posted January 22, 2008 02:46 PM            

Glucus: Thankyou too sweetie bc your info was informative and greatly appreciated especially when you said

Pluto squares Ascendant with 4'13 orb and parallel the Ascendant with 24 minutes of arc, and that could indicate that the relationship was intense,transformational....but it can be obsessive. With hard Pluto aspects, there can be a problem with letting go because the connection is so powerful,intense.

So,so true..

posted January 22, 2008 03:32 PM            

1. Does he have a good heart?

2. Does he generally treat you with respect?

3. Would you both be willing to have counseling of some sort?

I say this because if he has a good heart and treats you well, you both might want to think twice about throwing this away.

Life is not easy, relationships are not easy. We grow up thinking that they are and that they should be magical and romantic at all times, and that is just not the case. Some people do stupid things, they will always do stupid things. If he's not a cheater, if he's not a bum or a loser, consider it. And you use the stress to build those empires. Usually soulmates find each other because they have work to do. It's not always about the romance, there is some project that needs to happen. Instead of him focusing on his fear of committing to you, perhaps you can both figure out what your project on earth is and start doing that work, then that committment fear energy has somewhere else to be channeled.

If you can study the themes and mythology around the planets in that conjunction you both have, you might learn how to handle those energies. I believe that love can help you work those issues out. That might be a major indicator of the project you were both brought here to accomplish.

Of course there are no guarantees, but there appears to be something of value here. It might deserve a second exploration.

Geocosmic Valentine

posted January 22, 2008 03:48 PM            

In my practice, when I see Mars-Saturn in a stressful aspect, I ask the client about their temper and how they handle it. If they admit to having a bad temper, my highest suggestion is seeking counseling specifically geared toward "Anger Management". This is not to pick on you or anything like that, but if you were to lose out on a wonderful relationship because you can't control your temper due to some issues you might not understand yet, that would be kind of tragic. So I'm going to mention it to you if you haven't already thought about it or taken action on it.

I keep harping on this, because your comparison with him looks like your relationship could be useful in this world. Not that all couples don't add something, but you guys "got game" if you know what I mean.

It's just that his chart doesn't look like the chart of a stupid man. His chart looks like he's got some intellectual and humanitarian power, he's got a little genius goin' on, as a matter of fact. He might speak a little eccentrically, too. Maybe that's it. He also needs to be number one, and that might be hard to be with a woman who has that Mars-Saturn conjunction in Aries. To quote Borat "Wa wa we wa!!" He's got power signatures as well. You are both quite fiery, if we plug you guys in you could be the answer to the energy crisis.

That's all just my 2 cents, I could be way off base here, but I seem to have plugged into this comparison. Nothing is perfect, but it's hard to ignore that telepathy. I've been there, experienced that.

A telepathy story: I once fell in love with a guy that I never hooked up with. I knew he had feelings for me, but he was too young to be thinking about relationships the way I was. I couldn't believe we didn't hook up. But one day, I was studying and not thinking of him for once and I all of a sudden smelled this scented oil that he used to wear. I had never smelled anything like it before I smelled it on him. I thought it was my imagination and that I was obsessing again. But then the scent got stronger and strong to the point where I felt like it was coating my entire ear, nose and throat cavity, I could even taste it in my mouth and it did not taste good. Did you ever get perfume in your mouth by mistake? Yuck!! That's how strong he was thinking about me. From that day on, I never questioned whether someone was thinking about me or whether telepathy was real or not. That perfume smelled nice for a while, but once it got that strong, I was like, "OK, got the message, stop thinking about me already, YUK!!"

I mean, what was the guy doing, drinking the musk oil or something. It was awful. Maybe it was telepathy pay back because he could probably feel me thinking of him without letting up on him. LOL!!

Anyway, those are my thoughts. Good luck to you Mama Mia in whatever you choose.

Geocosmic Valentine

posted January 22, 2008 04:14 PM            

"Not that all couples don't add something, but you guys "got game" if you know what I mean"

Hee,hee I thought so too..We also have sun conjunct sun and well I hate to say it sometimes but we are quite alike our thinking and some other stuff.

posted January 22, 2008 09:42 PM              

There was I looking on facebook as I had heard about it and I was typing in some names and there she was. So I contacted her again and she responded. But she is living in China now?!

But such alot of water has disappeared under the bridge. I think to myself why am I doing this ? Is it not better to let sleeping dogs lie ? But she was the only woman who contacted my soul.

Life is so weird. You dont even know if they ever felt the same in the first place. Maybe the haunting should be left alone and you should really move forward and find another new soul to give off yourself to. After all you are not the same person you were then.

Any thoughts ? Is it possible to be like friends when you used to be like intimate and it was like life and death at the time?

posted January 22, 2008 09:48 PM              

I honestly do not think I would have been truly happy if we had stayed together, since he was not very accepting of my desire to have my space. Odd, being an Aqua and all but he has very narrow male/female roles.

posted January 22, 2008 11:20 PM            

That seems to be the underlying theme with Pisces and Aquarius.

Great Astro responses everyone

out

posted January 23, 2008 10:00 AM            

Any thoughts ? Is it possible to be like friends when you used to be like intimate and it was like life and death at the time?

Venus Trine Pluto: We are friends no matter what happens with this we are. Although I do believe that it is more difficult for him to be my friend but bc he is a Aqua he can do it, but it stirs the feelings I don't think that we could ever be friends with no feelings for each other, and bc I have so much Aqua I can be or atleast try to be friends to..

Just a thought but maybe you are ready to meet someone new and it will happen soon.

And you know if thats the case I am ready for that too, I am open for all possibilities..

it sounds like 'timing' is off and the reason you feel it so strongly at times is because it's still unfinished. Or so it seems from a karmic standpoint.

Lalalinda: One of my girlfriends has been telling me this from the begining she keeps saying timing is off with you guys.

"But I hope you don't doubt that this guy is going through alot of the same as you are"

Capgirl: I wonder sometimes cause we have never discussed the depths of this, but I do spook him its all in him when I see him, I guess all this is foriegn to him.

posted January 23, 2008 11:03 AM            

As the sun enters Aquarius their egos become big...I am experiencing this with my Aqua kid and an Aqua friend...

AND as their ruler transits our sign and our ruler transits theirs....strange things are in the midst...

lala is correct, and as you and I know anyway, Pisces and Aqua make for something special anyway, always connected, forever to-gether, in some form or fashion. And with the strange transits of our ruling planets now...it gets mistier, foggier...denser... more than it has ever been before.

Do not ever forget what occurs when water and air mix...

posted January 23, 2008 11:21 AM            

"AND as their ruler transits our sign and our ruler transits theirs....strange things are in the midst"

Geeeze I never gave this a thought at all very profound and it explains somethings thanks hippi, I know that you get this..

CapGirl: I emailed you back honey..

posted January 23, 2008 11:28 AM            

That's the 34 yr old teacher that had sex with a 13 yr old. She ended up having 2 kids from him. She couldn't get enough of the guy. She was on probation,but she ended up going to prison for 7 years because she was with him again. She couldn't just stay away!
She got out of prison, and he still wanted to see her. He lifted the no-contact order. Now they are married!

posted January 23, 2008 12:08 PM            

Well....some say that it could be a sign of strong infatuation that is unhealthy. seeing how the relationship started.

The couple believe that they are soulpartners,and they did get married in spite of not being together for 7 years. The 2 children they have together indicate an everlasting bond between each other.

Mary Kay LeTourneau has Sun-Venus-Jupiter-South Lunar Node in Aquarius square Neptune, and that can indicate somebody whose relationships are outside the norm and can be very idealistic in her love life. It can indicate falling for the wrong person. It also indicates boundary problems as well as poor judgment.

She has a configuration that seems a person who believes in soulmates.

She also has diagnosis of Bipolar Disorder.

posted January 23, 2008 06:06 PM              

People move on. They meet new people. They change. They join and are influenced by new groups. They were not what they used to be when you knew them. Then it is not as life and death as it once was.

The message is: you got to move on with the times. What was once all consuming is not anymore. Look forward. I find this hard but unfortunately people disappoint you unless they are special and see something in you.

It is tempting to feel a bitterness but you are not an item anymore. Even tho you once felt that way.

We all have ex's. We all have past hurts but they weren't meant to be otherwise you would be still with them now. By the time you learn your lessons it is too late.

I am trying to gather my courage and practice what I am preaching.

But you should look forward and invest in people who give a damn about you.

Hope this helps. I just want to help if I can and it annoys me when people go to waste.

posted January 28, 2008 05:28 PM              

Sorry being abit selfish. I was just trying to work things out going on in my own life at the moment and that is why I read this thread to start with.

As it so happens, I am talking to someone again who I contacted recently (dont know why), who did have a big impact on my life I dated 10 years ago who hurt me. Just finding it weird. The forgiveness thing and letting bygones be bygones I mean.

Astrology has helped me work out the dynamics of what was going on at the time. That is why I am attracted to it. That is why I joined this forum to find like minded individuals like you. lol. It's strange how we end up coming here for advice ! But it is interesting still the same.

Was just trying to say if you have trouble. We (the lindaland community) can help. Not that you need any.