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scorpiofrancesca
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posted January 24, 2008 01:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Been dating this guy a couple months, and i cant grasp him. he doesnt seem to let himself go with me, and he doesnt reeeally seem attached or romantic.

K (male)
born on 25 Nov 1980 local time 4:42 pm
in Chicago, IL (US) U.T. 22:42
87w39, 41n51 sid. time 21:11:29

Planetary positionsplanet sign degree motion
Sun Sagittarius 3°50'00 in house 6 direct
Moon Cancer 22°54'15 end of house 2 direct
Mercury Scorpio 15°35'41 in house 6 direct
Venus Scorpio 2°19'00 in house 6 direct
Mars Capricorn 2°56'18 in house 8 direct
Jupiter Libra 5°15'51 in house 5 direct
Saturn Libra 7°19'26 in house 5 direct
Uranus Scorpio 26°20'56 in house 6 direct
Neptune Sagittarius 21°42'25 in house 7 direct
Pluto Libra 23°16'06 in house 5 direct
True Node Leo 13°27'20 end of house 3 retrograde
Planets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house.

House positions (Placidus)Ascendant Gemini 10°44'17
2nd House Cancer 2°49'39
3rd House Cancer 22°55'49
Imum Coeli Leo 15°24'29
5th House Virgo 14°53'16
6th House Libra 25°47'16
Descendant Sagittarius 10°44'17
8th House Capricorn 2°49'39
9th House Capricorn 22°55'49
Medium Coeli Aquarius 15°24'29
11th House Pisces 14°53'16
12th House Aries 25°47'16

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Astra
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posted January 24, 2008 02:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He has a number of personal planets in Cancer and Scorpio--two signs that don't trust easily. He has venus in Scorpio which craves very deep relationships and they're not the sort to fall in love at first sight. He also has mercury in Scorpio, so he may be quite private about his feelings. Just be patient and give him time. If you're feeling brave, you could simply ask him how he feels. I have a friend with similar placements and despite the cancer moon, she is pretty direct with what she is feeling at any given moment. But remember, don't expect him to mince words, so if you're the ultra-sensitive type, then brace yourself.

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scorpiofrancesca
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posted January 24, 2008 02:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks. That has been my main concern, is this temporary or is he going to be like this in general? Ive been waiting to see if its temporary, because he is a wonderful person otherwise. Just frustrating bec i like the head over heels whirlwind romance, but im waiting it out. And no Im not asking him yet, yes I'm sensitive lol. And scared!

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Astra
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posted January 24, 2008 02:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aww...I know it's scary.

Remember, that we all show affection differently. For instance, I'm not one to give hugs, but I will always help out someone I care about. I know it doesn't sound romantic, but I think it speaks volumes of how I feel about someone by what I do and not what I say. Saying "I love you" or making out is one thing, but really being there for someone or rescuing them is quite another. Maybe he's the same way?

If not, then pay very close attention to his body language and overall demeanor. Does he seem to treat you more gently than he does with others? Does he remember things that you've told him a couple of weeks before? Does he seem genuinely interested in what is going on in your life? Does his face seem to light up when you walk into a room? Do his friends treat you with kindness (if he dislikes you, chances are his friends won't give you the time of day assuming they are loyal).

Actually, come to think of it, you can be assured that he at least likes you on some level. With this much Scorpio in his chart, he is not the type to waste his time with someone that he doesn't like on some level. I have no idea if he loves you, but there is definitely potential. If he really had no interest in you, then believe me, you would know.

Try to gather up some courage and ask him how he feels about you. Perhaps he's just been trying to find the opportunity to tell you, but doesn't know how to go about it, so just create the opportunity for him. If he really feels nothing for you (I doubt this is the case), then yes that will hurt, but it's less painful to find this out now than four years down the road.

You don't want to waste your time in a relationship that's headed nowhere. If your relationship with him ends, then it's his loss. You deserve to find someone to loves you and there's no point in being in a loveless relationship.

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SagSun
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posted January 24, 2008 03:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He shares my birthday ... only that he's three years older than me.

You know, the biggest struggle for a Sag person with lots of water in their chart is the balance in their life. Feeling comfortable with yourself can be an eternal struggle. The Sag part of his personality doesn't like being pegged down and values freedom. So he won't show his true feelings unless he is absolutely sure about them. And the water part of his personality can make him very secretive. On a more positive note, it is unlikely that he'd be sticking around if he didn't feel anything for you.

So, be patient with him and hang in there!!!

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Sagittarius Sun - Leo Moon - Pisces Ascendant

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scorpiofrancesca
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posted January 24, 2008 01:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I could see in a sagg how it seems to be 'an eternal battle' to figure out themselves. I can see that in him. I try to think of the positive ways he does show he likes me, and keep being patient. Its difficult, even then I'm a scorp I very openly show that I like someone. He doesn't.. Or maybe does it differently, like you said astra.. And you're right. I should be straightforward about things with him

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Astra
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posted January 24, 2008 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just noticed something...he has mars in capricorn. If I remember correctly, in a man's chart mars shows how he behaves in relationships. Capricorns are not the mushy type. They show affection by being reliable, buying presents for you and by being loyal. It also takes them a long time to trust someone, so maybe this is why he's behaving the way he is?

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scorpiofrancesca
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posted January 25, 2008 02:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wait, so just in a man's chart their mars defines how they behave romantically? Because I have a capricorn mars as well, and I am Mushy capital M! Thats interesting I have never heard that... Oh no, well if hes always going to be like that then I dont know about all this lol. Ill see.

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scorpiofrancesca
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posted January 25, 2008 02:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whoa whoa whoa, wait a second! According to astro.com, his mars is in capricorn. When I look in Linda Goodman's "Relationship Signs", it says his mars is in Pisces?!??

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Astra
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posted January 25, 2008 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In a woman's chart, mars shows the type of man she's attracted to. Venus is how you express your affection.

In a man's chart, venus shows what type of woman he's attracted to and mars is how he expresses that love. This is what I've been told anyway.

Aspects to these personal planets can also alter their expression.

So two different sources are giving you different mars signs? Are you sure you got the right birth time?

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