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BLKFox
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posted January 24, 2008 09:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The concentrated form of some Sun signs are just naturally intense & unforgiving. Scorpio & Taurus come to mind because they are so much alike.
Any others come to mind for you?

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posted January 24, 2008 09:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leos.

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posted January 24, 2008 10:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find Aries, Virgos, Geminis and Sags to be "all or nothing." And I don't think Libra is known for giving too much ground, especially if you make the mistake of treating them undiplomatically.

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posted January 24, 2008 12:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Purple_Chick_71
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posted January 24, 2008 01:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, I think the "all or nothing" attitude comes from having pluto aspects in the natal. There was talk about this in a thread a little while ago...I'll try to find it.

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Sun - Capricorn (10th House)
Moon - Gemini (2nd House)
Mercury - Sagittarius (9th House)
Venus - Aquarius (11th House)
Mars - Aries (12th House)
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BLKFox
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posted January 24, 2008 01:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Write---I agree with you about Leos---it all about them
Wild, I don't usually think of Sags & Gems as "all or nothing" people, maybe because they are usually so much fun!
Leen--Scorpios can be EVIL if they feel you've crossed them.

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NeptunianFire
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posted January 24, 2008 06:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree, Purple_Chick, I have a bunch of Pluto aspects and an 8th house stellium and I am pretty all or nothing, hot or cold

Leos ARE all or nothing! It's either all about them--or nothing!

Aries have a similar attitude.

Libras don't have an all or nothing attitude because they are indecisive and too diplomatic. Unless they've got Scorpio personal planets and/or Pluto aspects.

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librarising
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posted January 24, 2008 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for librarising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Pluto aspects and/or the placement showing more of an "all or nothing" attitude than just a single sun sign. All of my close friends share this trait("all or nothing") with me and all either have pluto in the first house or pluto-mars aspects.

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jane
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posted January 25, 2008 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only people to completely cut off contact with me (for different reasons) have been 2 Scorpios, so that is the sign I associate with being all-or-nothing. I've found Tauruses less extreme, I think b/c they're so receptive to affection, while a Scorpio has more control over whether they want to accept your love.

Generally speaking, of course.

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posted January 25, 2008 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I personally haven't found Libra men to be all-or-nothing at all, having been in long-term relationships with all of them.

I find the Fixed signs all-or-nothing, in the following order: Scorpio, Taurus, Leo, Aquarius.

(I'm a Leo myself Don't forget that although we think the universe orbits around us, we're very generous people.)

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posted January 25, 2008 03:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...oi. First I'll say- Scorpios.

I seem to have run ins with female ones especially. My sister is a Scorpio, riiiiight in the middle of the bloody thing.

If you give in, they can mold into this very easy to talk to person, but it seems you have to walk on eggshells around them because *omfg* if my sister was a mob boss? I'd be 'iced' a long time ago. :O

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posted January 25, 2008 03:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am all or nothing, and I am a Virgo.

Or, is it the Scorpio Rising?

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posted January 25, 2008 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for librarising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jane,
I cut people off very easily and I will agree with you that the only other people I have encountered that cut people out as easily as I do have been those with Scorpio Sun/Rising.

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posted January 25, 2008 10:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 25, 2008 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tigerlily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have a bunch of Pluto aspects and an 8th house stellium and I am pretty all or nothing, hot or cold

Me too. I have an 8th house stellium, I'm a Cancer but in the Scorpio decanate, my MC/Neptune conjunction in Scorpio is the tightest aspect in my chart and my chart ruler is Uranus in the 8th house.

I'm definitely all or nothing and an extremist. I swing from one side of the pendulum to the other. I can go from being a complete hermit and introvert for months or even years to suddenly switching and becoming really social and an extrovert. I totally blow hot and cold, especially in relationships (I'm a bit ashamed about that tendency but can't seem to help it - it really is my intrinsic nature so it's hard to be otherwise). For me, everything goes in phases - and in each phase (especially in regards to music, painting, photography and designing/making jewelry) I'm intensely focused on one thing, then eventually I get maxed out and switch to something else and get intensely focused on it until I get maxed out with that, and so on.

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posted January 25, 2008 01:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Sag mother with lots of Taurus whose motto is "my way or the highway"...

but doesn't like it when the boot's on the other foot HA HA!

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BLKFox
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posted January 25, 2008 01:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Confession time...
I have Moon & Jupiter conj in Cap & Venus in Scorpio---this with Libra Sun, Asc, Merc & Neptune.
I don't cut people off as much as I used to, but it's still in me.
Oh, do I ever HATE it when people actually have the nerve to cut ME off!!!
I discovered (learned) better communication skills...I can use my words more. Also, as I grow older, I realize that I may cut someone off, & I may never see them again in this life...so, now I'm more thoughtful and compassionate.

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posted January 25, 2008 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if all or nothing can be equated to stubborness
Then you can add all of the fixed signs.

Scorpio, Aquarius, Taurus, and Leo

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posted January 26, 2008 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tigerlily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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if all or nothing can be equated to stubborness
Then you can add all of the fixed signs.
Scorpio, Aquarius, Taurus, and Leo

Yikes! No wonder. I'm very intense. I'm very stubborn. I also really really hate being told what to do. I already mentioned all my Scorpio/Pluto/8th house placements...but as for fixed placements: I'm an Aquarius ASC, my Venus and DSC are in Leo, and my Saturn and IC are in Taurus.

But then again, my chart is fairly balanced - I have a lot of cardinal and mutable placements as well...pretty equally distributed through my chart.

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posted January 26, 2008 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
too cute

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posted January 27, 2008 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
=====All or Nothing======

Scorpio - I want All or Nothing because I can see through you in a matter of minutes. I know either you are 100% in or 100% out. No need of more discussions. My opinion is Firm.

Aquarius - I want All or Nothing because I can find the truth in matter of minutes. I will know whether you are rationally and intellectually qualified as soon as I ask five friendly questions ;-)

Aries - All or Nothing because I only look for those who support my selfishness. Either you fully support my selfishness or I am discarding you in a matter of minutes. Good news is that I am an open sport so you will know my true nature very easily.

Taurus - All or Nothing because I need a complete security and possessiveness. You have to be there in front of my and there has to be lots of touchy feely sex. Either you give me all or you are nothing.


========Everything=======

Gemini - I want everything because I want to learn about everybody and everything. I have superficial interest in everything and Communication is a very important part of my life. I need lots of people to communicate with. I am willing to debate and talk about everything. Do not come to me for decisions. I will always confuse you more. Do you know why Ledger died? Have you seen his chart? Have you seen Hillary's chart? I think she will win. Isn't it funny? lol.

Cancer - I want everything because I want anyone who can support me emotionally I will take help. It takes me long long time to recover from my previous relationships. BTW, I have the other side which people don't know. I am interested in everything that looks like Green $100 notes but I am a peaceful person. I give away 1 cent per my earned $100 every month to clean energies. I love to help people by doing some small charity work. My mom told me to do so. and I will teach the same to my kids :-) But, kids need to be careful not to give away more than one cent per $100. Because eventually, financial losses will come. My bank will go bankrupt. My stocks which are worth millions will go down. OMG, I am poor. I need everyone who can help me financially now.

Leo - I want everything because I will be more than happy to be with you if you keep my 'Ego' high and flatter me :-) Every compliment will be rewarded with a $500 check. And, if you compliment me everyday. I will take a debt to pay for your energies.

Virgo - I want everything because I am more than happy to do any and every small work you will give me. Important requirement - you have to appreciate my work :-) I am a very hard worker. I am also beautiful. And, I worry about my body and health a lot.

Libra - I want everything because I want to balance the whole world and make everyone happy. But I get troubled mentally as soon as I start helping others because my own selfishness thoughts do come right there. I don't know how to balance myself. Can you help? Yes you can.. No, you can't ;-)

Sagittarius - I want everything because even though I straight shoot, I have a lot of energies. I am more than happy to pack my bags and take a break and manage multiple adventures at the same time. BTW, how did you feel about our weekend? We made Love on Friday night, then Meditation on Saturday morning, then a visit to a Book Store, then a debate, then at Bar, then again Love on Saturday night and then went to Church so peacefully on Sunday. Wow, I am so spiritual. Why do people say I am a half beast?

Capricorn - I want everything because as long as you help me with my job, career, money and let me be selfish all the time, I am more than happy to have you in my life.

Pisces - I want everything because I am a garbage can of the Zodiac :-( Nobody treats me fairly and I am wounded by Earthy people all the time. I come from Neptune and Jesus is my best friend. No worries you can always drop in and tell me your stories I have a lot of compassion to give you. But I am not really sure whether I can direct you with anything. I am indecisive! :-)

I hope above explanations help! If not, you are not Scorpio, Aqurius, Taurus or Aries ;-) Got it?

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BLKFox
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mblover

Thanks! My Venus in Scorpio has always run the show...It's always been, "...my way or the highway..." now I'm trying to hook-up with a Taurus who is worse than me when it comes to that INTRACTABLE stuff

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posted January 30, 2008 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"libra"rising - Yeah, I have Scorpio Rising myself, so I can relate. In terms of maintaining relationships, I think Scorpio gets overpowered by my Venus in Cap and Saturn in the 11th house. I don't feel deeply connected with many people, so I really value the people who I do have that connection with. I'm cautious about developing relationships and know people well before I consider them one of the VIPs in my life. Once I do, it would take something really extreme, like abuse, for me to deliberately drop them entirely from my life. Instead, I drop people in my head and think of them in a different way, but still remain open to them redeeming themselves. I have Neptune trine my Moon and conjunct my Sun, and even when I try, it's hard for me to hold a grudge. I understand and accept that they're being who they are and we all have lessons to learn from one another. If someone can explain their motivation and is genuinely sorry or at least sympathetic to the hurt they caused, my anger and hurt feelings nearly disappear. I'm talking major "I never want to see that backstabber again"-rage, too, just melting away. I'm a lousy Scorpio rising.

I am all or nothing though, in some ways. I have to feel strongly about something, there has to be some passion there--whether it's a relationship or career-for me to pursue it. If I'm spiritually and emotionally bored with something, I move on, but without excommunicating the other party.

BLK - I noticed you mentioned cutting people off less after learning better communication skills. That jumped out to me, b/c the two Scorpios who cut me off both have Mercury in Scorpio; one has it retrograde, and the other has it unaspected in the 12th house. They both kept a lot of thoughts to themselves. With the first one, if he'd talked things over with me earlier, our relationship probably could've been saved. (But, to be fair, I kept a lot from him too and my Mercury is doing just fine, except for a square to my Moon.)

mblover - Cool list!

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mblover - thanks for that. well thought out

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indiajane
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hi

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