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Topic: Why does everything suck right now?
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Motherkonfessor unregistered
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posted January 25, 2008 02:52 AM
The title is blunt, but what else would y'all expect from me?I am actually better now, a bit- I didn't feel I could really post back when I was really down in it a few weeks ago... Here's a recap.. hmm, lets see-cancer. yeah, I guess that's a big deal.. ended a 10 year relationship, after too much melodrama and agony.. my job, which was once the greatest source of joy and satisfaction in my life has become utter h#ll. Really. I am being attacked on all fronts, my staff is bitter and miserable, and I am trying to get a promotion I am not sure I want. (ok, yes I want it but I am scared) and I have a crush, a pathetic school girl blushing when he looks at me crush that will never BE anything. I feel like any source of comfort I once had is either gone, or has proved itself untrustworthy. 2 weeks ago I spent my days off staring at the walls of my apartment and crying. As i said, I am better- now. A little bit. I feel like I have been waiting my whole life just to find a little bit of happy, a corner of peace and quiet. And then the stars f*ck with me. *sigh*
sorry so maudlin- MK IP: Logged |
wild sheep unregistered
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posted January 25, 2008 02:54 AM
Oh, dear. Sounds like you've been hit hard. Being a newbie, I don't really feel like I should be offering advice or insight, but—Mars Retro ends on the 30th. More or less. That will probably bring some improvement to everyone's lives, I bet.------------------ "You stay young as long as you can learn, acquire new habits and suffer contradiction." (Marie von Ebner-Eschenbach) IP: Logged |
Motherkonfessor unregistered
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posted January 25, 2008 03:11 AM
we were all newbies at one time, wild sheep- thanks for the kind words.PS- Oregon is one of my favorite places on Earth. Mayhaps it is the Mars Retro. Or the fact that Saturn is dancing over my MC and my 10th house of career (and sun and mercury) for the next 2 years. I am just pouting that Saturn has to smack me down so soon after my Return. Not fair, Daddy Saturn, not fair!!! MK IP: Logged |
wild sheep unregistered
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posted January 25, 2008 03:22 AM
Hey, I'm doing the Saturn-Return-in-the-10th thing, too, so I totally sympathize. It...kinda bites.IP: Logged |
Motherkonfessor unregistered
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posted January 25, 2008 03:25 AM
I just keep thinking that something has to break- and soon- that I will have something to look forward to. I can't live in this limbo of blah for much longer without going mad. or, I will just do something stupid to change it up. MK IP: Logged |
jane Knowflake Posts: 1277 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted January 25, 2008 03:27 AM
((((Motherkonfessor)))))) I wish I could give you a real hug instead of that lame cyber hug. But if that were to happen, you'd probably be freaked out to find me in your room with you. And then the porn music would start, and one thing would lead to another, yada, yada, yada...But back to business. What you described in your first post reminded me a lot of what I was going through a few years ago and I could really connect with the exhaustion of --damn, how much am I supposed to take? I mean really, the Universe is just being downright sadistic -- and guess what transit I had then? Saturn on the MC. I wish I could say something that'll make you feel better, but let's just get out of the way right now that that won't be happening. I think the hardest part right now is that you're in a holding period. Nothing's building, some things are ending, and other things are being endured. All that stress w/ no exit in sight is bound to stress you out and make you feel depressed. I think what may help you feel better is taking action. Is there anything that you can change right now? Your job, for instance...I know what it feels like to lose something professionally that used to emotionally fulfill you and feel like that won't be happening again...is there a way you can get that back? Maybe you are a stubborn person, Saturn knows this, and he's making things feel SO BAD because he knows that's what it will take before you change your situation? I made a career change a couple of years ago around the time Saturn was conjunct my MC (and square my Chiron). My actual career circumstances at the time, when I think of them now, weren't even that bad. If I were to eperience them now, I'd probably put up with them. But experiencing them with the critical, hopeless Saturn eyes made me miserable and forced me to change. If I hadn't been so miserable, I would've stayed where I was and ended up committing myself to a lukewarm life. Maybe you too need to feel this bad to change things? Of course, we don't have control over too much in life. I am so sorry to hear that you have cancer. But b/c there is so much that we can't control, it's that much more important to control what we can influence in our life. I really need emotional fulfillment professionally (natal Moon in the 10th house), and if you're the same, having your job be utter hell is soul destroying. I know you feel down, which can make you unmotivated and filled with self-doubts, but if you can gather the drive, do whatever you can to make your career a great source of joy and satisfaction again. IP: Logged |
wild sheep unregistered
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posted January 25, 2008 03:50 AM
I'll also add that sometimes, when I mentally ask Saturn to be nicer to me, he is! I don't mean to imply that you can just think, "Saturn, improve these conditions!" and then magically be cancer-free, but some results I've gotten from simply asking Saturn to "be nice" include getting excused from jury duty, getting a bank account re-opened and not getting arrested for (mistakenly) driving w/o my license (I know, I know, I stuck it back in my wallet ASAP). Saturn can be quite a reasonable guy sometimes, I swear.------------------ "You stay young as long as you can learn, acquire new habits and suffer contradiction." (Marie von Ebner-Eschenbach) IP: Logged |
Lana29865 unregistered
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posted January 25, 2008 03:53 AM
Hi guys, I have been terribly down for the last couple of days (weeks...). Your posts got me looking at my chart, and I found this: Transiting Saturn & Moon conjuncting my natal Sun in the 1st house, opposing my natal Saturn&Chiron conjunction in the 8th house which is now hit by (in conjunction with) transiting Uranus. Transiting Mars is conjuncting my natal Jupiter (11th house). Transiting Pluto is sitting on my Vertex, transiting Chiron on my DC. (I use Equal houses). I feel totally weak and down and hopeless and helpless and so lonely... IP: Logged |
jane Knowflake Posts: 1277 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted January 25, 2008 04:05 AM
((((Lana)))) Lame cyber hug for you too. I really look at Saturn as a practical planet. When those transits affect us so deeply and bring so much sadness, I don't think it's because Saturn is vicious. I think of it as Saturn forcing us to change something. Something in our lives (and only we can know what it is) needs restructuring. We're making the wrong choices somewhere. And all those painful feelings are a condensed version of the despair we'd feel during a lifetime if we weren't to change things. Maybe if we carried on as usual, we'd feel a dull pain every day, so dull that we don't even notice that we're not really happy. And what the Saturn transit does is gather all that up and throw it at you in one moment, sort of a bucket of cold water in the face to wake you up so that you don't take time for granted. That's the way I look at it. Saturn's practical and has a reason for any pain you're feeling. It may not even be a major change, but something you need to do and be in life isn't happening and Saturn is trying to help you feel that, learn what it is, and fix it. IP: Logged |
Motherkonfessor unregistered
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posted January 25, 2008 04:09 AM
(((jane)))cyber hugs are better than no hugs!! the cancer thing, hard to define- I had cancer, I could still have cancer, the doctors want to remove my thyroid "just in case" there might still be cancer in it. that decision is totally in a holding pattern right now. The funny thing about Saturn- it was my Saturn Return that brought me out here after 2 years of misery- yes, I am stubborn- and gifted me with the job I have now. I considered what I have now the "gift" that Saturn gave me for doing the hard stuff during my return. And thus, the other shoe falls.... I gave up the bad relationship, even though it hurt. I worked on myself, my professional weaknesses, and started to learn to trust people. and now- well-so quickly, it turns to sh!t. I keep thinking.. "I have to leave, again? I have to start over, again? Do I have the strength?" I feel like I am failing, for just wanting to get out while I can. My father made us move every 5 months during my childhood because he was never happy with his job. It was horrid. I don't want to be the person who can't "stick it out." I don't want to be like him, a person who just leaves instead of fixing things, or admitting personal responsibility for mistakes. Ack, too much drama MK IP: Logged |
jane Knowflake Posts: 1277 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted January 25, 2008 04:20 AM
Holy bejeezus, are you me?!!I think we share a similar root cause for being stubborn. I also moved a lot as a kid b/c of a..um..father who has major issues. That's diplomatic enough. So during my Saturn-MC transit, even though I knew I made the wrong choice professionally, I didn't want to quit. I felt like quitting would be self-indulgent and undisciplined. Not to mention, that like you, I perceived where I was at as a major gift. I knew people who would give a kidney to be where I was, everyone was all proud of me and all that jazz...so to leave all that b/c Saturn was making me go boohoo? Nah, suck it up and stick with it! Only made things worse. I spent a lot more time than I needed to feeling miserable b/c I was trying to force myself to be something I wasn't. Changing course doesn't make you your dad, it makes you someone who can listen to her inner voice and live an honest life. Changing your career twice within a few years in no way equals 5 month commitments. But man can I empathize with you feeling that way. (But you're still wrong. ) Edit: Btw, at the time of my Saturn-MC transit, I had already changed careers twice and turned down a career opportunity that many thought I was insane to reject. So the context definitely had me disgusted with my inability to commit. That self-criticism was the main reason I delayed changing things so long after I knew I needed to. But it wasn't that I couldn't commit, just that I couldn't commit to the wrong thing for me. Also, that experience did help me gain more sympathy for my dad and the pain he experienced. It didn't make me him, but it did help me understand him, which helped me heal a bit. Maybe your Saturn transit is helping you do that too? Compassion for your dad and yourself. But I want to stress again that you're not him.
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Lana29865 unregistered
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posted January 25, 2008 04:29 AM
Thank you so much Jane for your cyber hugs and those kind and encouraging words!((((((Everyone who's feeling down)))))))))))) Lana IP: Logged |
jane Knowflake Posts: 1277 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted January 25, 2008 04:41 AM
You're welcome, Lana. It's easy for me to find encouraging words right now, since Saturn is done screwing with me. Actually, Saturn is still hanging around me (I have NN, Mars, and Jupiter all in early Virgo; he'll be squaring my Sun when he's in mid-Virgo; and he'll be making his Saturn Return when he's in late Virgo). But he doesn't hurt anymore. He wags his finger occasionally, and does the reprimanding carrot peeler motion at times, but no more punches in the gut b/c I listened to him when he was on my MC and then my Moon. It took a while for Saturn not to feel bad, though. But I can promise you that the good feelings will follow thoughtful action. Guaranteed or your money back. (Edit: Oh, and MK, if you read this post, I didn't mean that Saturn keeps hurting people who don't learn his lesson the first time. I definitely don't mean that you didn't "get" Saturn's lesson during your Return. Saturn can teach you one lesson, and then come back and throw a different one at you, or promote you to an advanced class. I think the most important thing is to just go with the flow and be open to rewriting things about us that we already hoped were written in stone.) IP: Logged |
blue moon Knowflake Posts: 1344 From: U.K Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 25, 2008 05:21 AM
An eclipse is on its way. Maybe this will mark a turning point where you start to get your life back on track. http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrological-information/solar-lunar-eclipses.php http://www.lunarliving.org/moon/solareclipse.shtml We've had our moments here and can empathise with the health tramua. Don't be too hard on yourself, it sounds like you are coping well under the circumstances. Maybe take some of the pressure off yourself - do you need the promotion? Do you need to be with your crush happily ever after? Good luck. IP: Logged |
Xena unregistered
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posted January 25, 2008 01:53 PM
I've just had a couple of days travelling to hell and back, but I think it's probably because of Full Moon time. I talked to the Samaritans for the first time in ages (yes, it really is that bad). Back in the saddle now (since I am always up-and-down anyway) but I do know what you mean about wondering whether things are ever going to get better. I wonder whether that's a Mutable sign thing, as we are so flexible that people tend to take advantage of us?BUT the most important thing of all is to CARRY ON!!!!! (whichever path you choose to take) My heart really goes out to you as I know you've had it tough and hey, I feel for you. Love, Xena IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 4418 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 25, 2008 02:35 PM
quote: he'll be making his Saturn Return when he's in late Virgo
I thought you were a Sag, Jane. Are you not? IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 4418 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 25, 2008 02:48 PM
Saturn's going to be messing with me quite a bit through Virgo as well. Even right now I think it would be considered to be t-quaring my natal Saturn (15* Gemini) opposite Venus (7* Sag). I've also got Mercury at 17 degrees Sag, so this will be a nice long period of t-squaring-like action.IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1120 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 25, 2008 03:07 PM
Saturn transits can be tough but if you are truly deserving, now is the time for your reward.Sending love, hope and compassion your way IP: Logged |
Diandra23 unregistered
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posted January 25, 2008 03:42 PM
IM a Virgo Sun and Saturn is hittin me also so your state of Mind and SOul are totally unserstood here at this side of the planet. Here´s a Group Hugh for everybody - it can be the sun/venus/mars or any other planet - Saturn makes us all in same boat but in diferent levels and areas of life - We must not lose Hope in the Future,no matter how worse it seems the Present. Like Jane said Saturn is structuring all that its needed,and always comprehends effort and a little of pain - its in us that we must look the answers and search for the Things that we must change in order to Saturn give us our Rewards like LL said It hiited my Venus some time ago and my relationship became stronger - it will hit my Venus again when comes to Retro and i will not lay down my arms - Dont aly yours Love to all IP: Logged |
enchantress299 Knowflake Posts: 188 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 25, 2008 03:47 PM
I feel your pain Motherkonfessor. Saturn is currently retroing over my Venus/MC/Sun combo, and though I graduated months ago, I haven't even been able to GET STARTED on my career. It. sucks. ass. I'm trying to make the best of it though by reminding myself that I've been so focused on my career that I haven't focused on anything else in my life and maybe this little Saturn enforced "break" will help with that. In any case, I hope you feel better about things soon. We'll all get through it together! *hugs* for you! ------------------ Virgo Sun/Aries Moon/Scorpio Rising IP: Logged |
jane Knowflake Posts: 1277 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted January 25, 2008 04:52 PM
AG - yes, I'm a Sag. In mid-Virgo, t.Saturn will square my natal sun, and in late Virgo, t.Saturn will conjunct my n.Saturn. (((wild sheep))) one for you too. Sorry, it's just I didn't know if I could control my lust around Taurus, wild sheep. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 4418 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 25, 2008 05:50 PM
Oh yeah, duhhh... I don't know why I was thinking that a Saturn return was transitting Saturn conjunct your Sun.In the latest degree of Virgo tSaturn will pass over my Moon. IP: Logged | |