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Xodian
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posted February 04, 2008 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well techincally not her but the actress Chiaki Kuriyama is. But the personification of her character in Kill Bill is totally inline with that of a Libra. The smile... the way she walks off the stairs and then her amazing skill in handling that ball/chain weapon.

I really didn't know the actress was a Libra.

Though I really can't comprehend the Japanese facination with schoolgirl uniforms though...


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posted February 04, 2008 04:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She is so beautiful

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Though I really can't comprehend the Japanese facination with schoolgirl uniforms though...
Repressed sexuality/childhoods?

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posted February 04, 2008 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmm... Maybe, maybe not.

I refuse (or just don't want to believe Lol!) that such a vast majority of the nation's males have the lolita complex. The obsession with schoolgirls is a huge phenomenon in Japan which I must say borderlines to almost a stereotype. But there maybe a possibility that there is indeed a major Lolita-esque obsession imbedded in the modern Japanese culture, but I don't wanna make assumptions without real unbiased proof Lol!

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posted February 04, 2008 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought the costume brilliant. and showed Tarrantinos homage to the genre. Gogo was perhaps the most un-repentantly evil of all..and didn't the bio in the movie relate an abusive childhood to the character? I forget the exact details..would have to pop the movie in now.

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posted February 04, 2008 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm, you have a point there Node. Possibly the character wears the costume as a reminder of the evil that tormented her in the past and that the character's persona is that of a truly psycotically damaged person in the body of an attractive Femme-Fatale.

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posted February 04, 2008 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow... I just skimmed read through it all and man that was some interesting reading; Espcially the underlining belief of Shintoism. You know, this could be a very good topic for my Sociology class. Thanks for that Tea (Hope you don't mind me calling you that Lol!)

Actually my girlfriend is quite the goth (well I wouldn't say hardcore goth; More like Goth-esque) and when we had just started dating she had quite the cool gothic look (some others would call it eccentric. I found it alluring Lol!) So I am kinda used to the whole gothic fashion style if it isn't taken wayyy too much to the extreme. Actually I love the emphisis most gothic girls place upon their eyes.

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posted February 04, 2008 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I am not surprised about her being a Libra, after all we do have both charming feminine qualities and at time brute masculine attributes...she is sweet and innocent looking but very deadly when it comes down to the fight, she played the character well and the school girl outfit just accentuated it

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posted February 05, 2008 05:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheelsofcheese     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She scared the bejesus out of me and I'm a Libran.

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I LOVE the Kill Bill movies!

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posted February 05, 2008 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suppose it wouldn't hurt for me to see this movie one more time...looks like rent a movie day

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posted February 05, 2008 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that as a country, Japan either has sun, moon or ascendant libra.

As for Gogo, she came off as a caricature of libra. Librans are not generally war-like. I don't know about her other movies, but judging from this one, this actress probably has strong planets in Aries or Scorpio, or Mars on the ascendant.

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posted February 05, 2008 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Curiosity got the best of me, and I just had to look her up. She was born October 10, 1984.

I don't have her time of birth, but it does look like she might have moon in Aries.

She has Saturn conjunct Venus, which would give a certain chill to her emotions. She does come across as very icy.

And she has Pluto sextile her mars, while same mars is also conjunct Jupiter, so her mars is very strong and yes, she could be deadly if she needs to be.

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posted February 05, 2008 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What Librans do you know? The ones I know are not war-like... AT FIRST. Then they become extremely war-like. I've crossed a Libra here and there, and have lived to regret it.

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posted February 05, 2008 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Enchantress, Libra is an air sign, and I think Libra's war-like attitudes are mostly in the realm of the intellect. They will fight (usually arguments and debates) for their ideas.

Aries is war like. It's opposite, Libra, is the peacemaker. Those are traditional astrological understanding of those signs.

Of course, you can have a totally unbalanced libra that veers into violence, but that's rather rare.

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posted February 06, 2008 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Librans are not generally war-like.

Actually I will have to disagree there. By War-Like, if you mean they engage in physical battle for the jist of it, then no. Stategy however... Yes, big time. Some of the most famous military Generals in History are Libras.

And this is kinda Ironic but most famous Libra Actors and Actresses have portrayed some intelligent, focused military person somewhere in their career:

- Linda Hamilton played Sara Conner in Terminator.

- Matt Damon played Jason Bourne in the Bourne Trilogy.

- Sigourney Weaver played Ripley in the Alien Series.

- Jean-Claude Van Damme... Should I even start with him? Lol!

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posted February 06, 2008 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Xodian for backing me up on this one... Honestly, out of all the signs, I think that Pisces are really the least "war-like" out of all the signs because they really literally just don't have a need to debate or fight at all. They just chill and do their thing.

The Librans on the other hand DO have a need to prove themselves to people for some reason, and I've even seen it happen without my Aries moon being involved. I think that, on the SURFACE, they try to be diplomatic and they try to play well with others, but underneath, they have their own version of "right" and "wrong" to contend with, and when someone crosses into the territory of "wrong" then they feel the need to correct them.

And Xodian, you are totally right about them being brilliant strategists. They ARE.

Will Libras be violent for the sake of being violent? NO. Will they get violent if their sense of right and wrong are crossed in some way? Yes. Will they get violent for the sake of other people? Yes. Will they become violent if it is a cause they can get behind? Yes.

Ultimately, Belage, you are right in that what IMPELS them to be this way is their ideals and their version of how things should be... But some of the most war-like people have justified their violence with ideals and not reality. Violence is still violence no matter what way you slice it.

Pisces, on the other hand, unless they have some major Aries or Scorpio going on, will not do that kind of thing period. It's just not their style.

I do understand the "traditional" astrological interpretations. However, many times these are one-dimensional and stereotypes more than they are fact. The "opposites" rule applies, but not in the way you think, because the way the axis works is that they are on opposite ends of the SAME axis. Aries are more overt about it, Libras are more covert about it. Aries are the foot soldiers while the Libras are often the generals or the politicians who put it all into action.

In any case... That's just my take on it...

And also, to go along with this thread: It doesn't surprise me that the actress who plays Go-Go is a Libra; she looks like one. The detached part of her ruthlessness makes sense. However, I don't think the character is actually a Libra, because indeed, her violence is too overt and unmotivated. ALTHOUGH, she is playing the part of a protector, so maybe the character is a Libra...

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posted February 06, 2008 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A very well thought out view Enchantress. We would like to believe that the gift each individual sign is given can't be used to harm others but the so far from the truth.

In my view I like to represent the Libra male and female with the analogical gods of Greek myth; Particualrly, Apollo and Athena.

Apollo was indeed an enlightened god. He was the god of Healing, Prophesy and Music and on top of that he is credited with providing humans with the gift of reasoning and he was very open sexually. However, he was also a very versitile god who knew how to fight and did indeed take sides to defend his city of Troy during the Trojan war.

Athena was the partron goddess of Wisdom, The Arts, of industry and Justice and skill. However she is also the goddess of War ironically and yes... even she took sides in the Trojan war, in favor of the Greeks.

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posted February 06, 2008 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I do understand the "traditional" astrological interpretations. However, many times these are one-dimensional and stereotypes more than they are fact. The "opposites" rule applies, but not in the way you think, because the way the axis works is that they are on opposite ends of the SAME axis. Aries are more overt about it, Libras are more covert about it. Aries are the foot soldiers while the Libras are often the generals or the politicians who put it all into action.

Your argument has merit, and if I follow it to its logical conclusion, Gogo's murderous behavior is still not a libra characteristic since Libras are the Generals, not the foot soldiers. As such they're not the ones getting down in physical fights with their enemies, they have others do it for them. The particular character of GoGo gets physically involved in fighting. To me, that is not a typical Libra characteristic.

Interestingly, I have moon in Libra, and you have moon in Aries. lol.

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posted February 06, 2008 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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To me, that is not a typical Libra characteristic.

Correction: Not a STEREOTYPICAL Libra charactersitic; Which can't be further from the truth. Remember, Libra is a cardial sign which means "naturally being of a certain intensity of one's own accord." They may be commanders but even officers need to fight their own battles and Libras do train accordingly. It may not be raw power but it could be precision; Martial arts being a big factor in that area.

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posted February 06, 2008 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Xodian, I am not following your logic, but please carry on.

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posted February 06, 2008 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well the logic is simple:

To lead soldiers, you have to know yourself what a soldier's key strengths and weaknesses are so you can decide strategically as to how you're gonna command an army effectively. So, that means putting yourself in their shoes and what better way to learn combat tactics and strategies then to train in combat senerios yourself. That way, you can decide as to what factors can give you an advantage in combat and what factors don't.

Plus having the ability to fight yourself gives you an added advantage to defend a position yourself if the need comes to be. Knowladge is power and the knowlage to an effective combat technique is power as well .

Gosh... Why do I sound like a drill sergent all of a sudden? Lol!

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posted February 07, 2008 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While we are on the topic of Libras and Japanese culture Lol! Have a look at the following clip (Meh, just ignore the music.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO4zcziM3q4&feature=related

Is that how a Libra guy would end a relationship or what? Some people might call it cold but I call it being logical. Comeon... Its not like he is breaking up for the sake of breaking up.

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posted February 07, 2008 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know its so funny, its so stereotypical that we are seen as all peaceful and lovey dovey all the time. All the Libra's I have known can be calm and peaceful yes.....until you **** them off real bad, my real father is a Libra and he had a terrible temper(it was like watching a tornado in action), it was frighting to be around as a child...

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