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Rubina
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posted February 05, 2008 11:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My presence is extreemly intense so much so that I think that people feel uneasy or uncomfortable around me especailly on first meeting them but not only then.
I think it is because of the rigidity of the fixed signs that are prominent for me
I'm a Leo sun, Scorpio asc, Cap moon.
Does anyone else have this problem?
Any suggestion to make things easier?

Thank you

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blue moon
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posted February 05, 2008 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe think of it as a filter system.

People who take the time to get to know the real you are the ones who are going to find it easier to deal with a fixed sign intense person, or at least make an effort.

Capricorn isn't a fixed sign, anyway. It's Cardinal.


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blue moon
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posted February 05, 2008 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Vintry
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posted February 05, 2008 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vintry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rubina, post your chart please

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augentier
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posted February 05, 2008 12:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rubina, it's the Scorp rising

Apparently I give off a negative or "weird" vibe...I take some ITV classes (two classrooms connected over TV) and one of my professors told me during the first class that he got a negative vibe off of me..and he was in the other classroom!

People have told me I am not easy to approach. When I'm not smiling I look "mean". I have had someone tell a friend of mine that I was weird, and he hadn't even talked to me.

When you go places, like to the store, do you find that people look at you a lot..especially if you are angry? You don't even have to say a word and people can feel your presence.

I used to be offended by this but now..meh, who cares. The people who care to get to know you are the ones who see you as interesting rather than weird..so just run with it, there is nothing wrong with a little mysterious flare

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posted February 05, 2008 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Leo sun gives you a regal and commanding presence. The scorpio rising probably makes you look mean or very intense. The capricorn moon can make you seem "cold" in your interactions with others. No wonder you seem intimidating!

As others have said, this can filter out judgmental people. However, it is very important to make a good impression on interviewers, prospective employers, etc who will decide within a few seconds whether they like you. They are usually not interested in becoming anyone's friend; they just want to see if: (a) you have the skills to do the job and (b) if you are pleasant enough to work with.

If you look angry or overly intense, you are probably going to have some difficulty in making a good impression on people vital to the success of your career unless of course you are dealing with people more intense than yourself or those who are not easily intimidated.

I have the same problem with you (cap rising, though I have intense eyes so I might as well be scorp...). What I did to dramatically improve my interactions with others is to simply smile. When you smile, make sure you think of something that makes you happy, otherwise you'll just look fake or creepy. Smiling will make you look more approachable and put others at ease.


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BLKFox
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posted February 05, 2008 02:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Blue Moon, you're right on!!!
I am intense---when people used to tell me that, I'd feel as though I needed to change...now I simply accept it. The people who can't handle it, leave me alone....I prefer it that way...
My motto is: Come Strong, or don't come at all!!!!

Way too many people devote their entire lives to becoming non-entities. I like to keep it REAL
augentier--ROLFMAO!!!!

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posted February 05, 2008 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would the world be like if we all bounced around like Ronald McDonald?

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posted February 05, 2008 04:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you probably feel more intense than is comfortable because you are a Leo Sun and Scorpio's type doesn't come natural to you. you should really post your chart because there can be other reasons for this ... but otherwise just remember: don't be afraid of yourself.

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posted February 05, 2008 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree BLKFox! Come strong or don't come at all is right!

I get this same reaction as well, and I too have a Scorp rising (not to mention an Aries Moon and Leo Mars). When I was a kid people didn't like me because they thought I was "snobby" or "stuck up." The sad truth was that I was just really really shy and quiet. Also, I was really smart, so when I did speak it was to answer a question the teacher had posed, and while I didn't realize this at the time, people tend to project THEIR insecurities onto you...

As I've gotten older, I've become more outspoken and more confident, but I still tend to intimidate people if I'm not careful. HOWEVER, I've also learned how to transmute this intensity into something more pleasant... To the point where I can now simply walk into a place and have random people come up and talk to me. Never used to be like that.

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posted February 05, 2008 07:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think the cap with the scorp can make you appear very intense. i know this cap rising with scorp sun and eveybody says he is intense & deep, even vice versa. caps can look cold and 'calculating' plus the scorpio...its a bomb of intensity!

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teaologist
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posted February 05, 2008 08:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 05, 2008 08:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Enchantress, I had the same problem with people thinking I was snobby when I was just shy. I had to literally force myself to be more friendly, so I wouldn't scare people! lol I don't have Scorpio rising, but I have Aries, which is close!!!

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Sun - Capricorn (10th House)
Moon - Gemini (2nd House)
Mercury - Sagittarius (9th House)
Venus - Aquarius (11th House)
Mars - Aries (12th House)
ASC - Aries

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SexyScorp103
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posted February 05, 2008 11:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand your problem as well. I only have the 'intense look' when im not smiling, which is always. But I have a cancer rising and am very cautious when meeting others, so my shyness usually tends to intimidate.. it gets worse from there usually lol, i guess they feel the scorpion ego. With your scorpio asc though my advice would be to relax and calm yourself amoungst other. Many times the way we appear to the world is a reflection of what we're feeling on the inside; so try to be more trusting and open minded when approaching/being around others. Don't go to extremes though!, you should never have to compromise yourself =)

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jane
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posted February 06, 2008 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sure people of all signs have had your experience, but I'm curious if there are any Scorpio Risings who haven't.

I have a Scorpio Asc too, and I think what can make people uneasy around our rising sign is how we're focused and quiet. There's a steady calmness to the way we take in our environment. I think when others can sense how focused & observant we are coupled with us not sharing what we're thinking, some people can project their own neuroses on us and assume that we're judging them, and it's that reaction of theirs that makes them uncomfortable around us. I don't think most people are automatically uncomfortable around intensity; it's their anxiety over why we're intense that makes them uncomfortable.

Now it's hard for me to know what about me is from my Scorpio Asc and what is from my Scorpio Mercury, but even if my Mercury has a lot to do with this, perhaps you can relate. I usually take in life like those readers who make constant comments in the margins of their books. I analyze and interpret, I analyze what someone else said and then analyze my own reaction to what they've said. It can make for an introspective experience, stuck in my own head.

Socially, I'm still like that but I focus less on me & on the other person and more on what we're creating together. Our conversation. (Or whatever else we're doing ). So what may help you put others at ease is if you take that intense Scorpio Asc focus and take it out of yourself (away from your own inner monologue) and put that focus into the interaction. I'm not sure if I'm clear here, so I'm probably not. Basically, try to go all zen and really live in the moment with what you're experiencing with the other person. Now you'll still seem intense, but the other person will intuitively sense that you're there with them, rather than as an observer. Some people need to feel that sense of fellowship to be comfortable.

And as was already mentioned, smiling can go a long way.

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ErickaF
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posted February 06, 2008 12:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a friend who has Scorpio rising with venus rising and sun in scorpio...she comes off very nice and sweet and she is stunning girl. i think the venus rising helps her be more likable and not intimidating like a lot of scorpio risings are known for lol.

for me i am a scoprio rising. but i realized my BML in sag can make me appear too nice. you think the BML can have something to do with our appearance, or at least for us women?

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posted February 06, 2008 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ericka - Yes, that makes complete sense to me about your Scorpio Rising friend who also has her Venus there. Venus is about relationships, connecting with others. So it's automatic for her to feel the desire to connect with others, and others can easily pick up on her warmth and sociability. I think it's when people sense that a Scorpio Rising is emotionally outside of the interaction, more of an observer than a participant, that her intensity makes them uncomfortable.

I have a Leo Moon in my 10th house and warm relationships are important to me. But it squares my Scorpio Mercury in my 1st house, and the thing that I am by far the most moody about in life is sociability. Sometimes I want to emotionally connect with others, other times I just want to sit back and observe. And all my life I've seen the way people react differently to those different sides.

I haven't thought much about our BML placement impacting the way others perceive us, but I'm sure it's possible. If it's in your 1st house that could increase the level to which you identify with it and then present it to others. But if it is in your 1st, then Sag is at least partly there, so maybe merely having a big chunk (?) of your first house in Sag affects the impression you make.

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posted February 06, 2008 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Augentier, I am also not easy to approach and have a "mean" or "sad" look. However, I am Gemini rising. The only planet conjunct my ASC is Chiron (12th house).

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Rubina
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posted February 06, 2008 02:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm kind of new to astrology so I dont know about the aspects and dont have a birthchart yet.ButI know where the planets were placed when I was born on 25.7.80.

Sun ~ Leo,
Moon ~ Cap,
Asc ~ Scorpio
Mercury ~ Cancer,
Venus ~ Gemini,
Mars ~ Libra
Jupiter + Saturn ~ Virgo
Uranus ~ Scorpio
Neptune ~ Sagg
Pluto ~ Libra

Thank you all for your reply's xx

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enchantress299
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posted February 06, 2008 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Purple Chick- Ah ha! Maybe the snobby part was my Aries moon then.

However, I DO know that I have that scary Scorpio look... I've been told as much many many times. In fact, my nickname through college was literally: "Scary." My good friends gave it to me, partly because it rhymed with my real name and partially because my friends thought it was funny. They know me for who I am, so I think they were kind of poking fun at my "scary" exterior (which really isn't all that scary once you get to know me). As a result, Scary has kind of become a term of endearment for me.

Remember... There are also the people who have an appreciation for us Scorpio risings. One of my college friends told me several years after we met that when she met me she didn't see me as scary or intense. In fact, she thought I was cool because I wasn't like all of the other freshman girls who were bubbly and overly exuberant. She said: "I just thought you were really cool because you did your own thing and didn't care what anyone else thought. You didn't say a whole lot, but when you did, it blew us all away."

So, it's not all bad to be a Scorp rising. Honestly, it helps keeps the jerks in the clubs away from me when I go out, so I'm cool with that.

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BLKFox
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posted February 06, 2008 03:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jane, thanks for your concise assessment...I totally agree with you.
In my case, I have Venus in Scorpio, Moon conj Jupiter in Cap. That may have SOMETHING to do with my intensity, although, I also happen to be a dark skinned, Southern, African American woman. <---those things seem to put people on alert...they just KNOW that I must be up to something from the moment I show up....then they say I'M TOO INTENSE...I want to know, Too intense For Whom?

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posted February 06, 2008 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cooljen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rubina, I have Leo Sun, Scorpio Rising, Taurus Moon and what Jane said about a Scorpio rising being emotionally outside the interaction, just observing, seems to make people uncomfortable...that makes a lot of sense.

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posted February 11, 2008 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BLK - Concise, me? *peers behind herself for another jane*
Thanks, I often feel like such a windbag here. I assume that nobody reads posts I write that are longer than an inch, so thanks for reading & I'm glad it made sense to you.

When they're saying you're too intense, I bet most of them mean that they'd like to connect with you but don't know how.

Maybe we should clarify what we mean by intense. I mean focused passion, as opposed to unfocused passion, which comes across to me more as wild than intense.

When people are focused & passionate, they can seem apart from others, like they're fixed on their own path and consider only a select few (or no one!) as being in that world with them. So others feel rejected and like what they can offer you--some light banter, something other than what you're focused on--is something you have no need or desire for.

So, imo, when people complain someone's too intense, they're saying, hey, we could be connecting here but you don't want what I have to offer. And maybe you don't, nothing wrong with knowing who you are & being true to that.

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posted February 11, 2008 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cooljen - Welcome to the board!

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Lara
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posted February 11, 2008 06:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes l can totally understand what you are saying.
People always tell me i'm so intense and deep too...

I'm taurus sun, aries moon and supposed to be Capricorn rising. (l thought l was scorpio) lol

I'm too much for so many people and it's annoying... most people can't handle me.

My s/o is leo sun, sag moon, scorpio rising

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