posted February 06, 2008 06:55 PM              

I prefer to embrace my challenges, LOL!

So anyways... Which Lilith specifically are we talking about?

Are we talking about...

The Mean Apogee Black Moon Lilith, [h12]
Here is it's Glyph

This is what astro.com offers automatically in its additional objects area..

Black Moon Lilith is not a celestial object but an abstract, geometric point. An ellipse has two focal points: in the case of the Moon’s orbit, the Earth is located at one of the focal points and Black Moon Lilith is considered to be either the other focal point (about 36,000 km from the Earth), or the apogee of the Moon’s orbit, both points lying in the same direction from the Earth.7 Black Moon Lilith is commonly used in mainland Europe, and its use in the US and UK is increasing...

Or are we talking about one of these four others?...

h13 Oscillating apogee Black Moon Lilith
also called true BML, this point actually fluctuates a lot, as much as 30 degrees from the mean BML, and it retrogrades often...(It's like the difference between mean node and true node.)

h21 Interpolated Lunar Apogee (Lilith), also called 'Natural Apogee'

h58 Dark Moon Lilith (Waldemath)
Dr. Waldemath’s Black Moon
This is another hypothetical second moon of the earth, postulated by a Dr. Waldemath in the Monthly Weather Review 1/1898. Its distance from the earth is 2.67 times the distance of the moon, its daily motion about 3 degrees. The orbital elements have been derived from Waldemath’s original data. There are significant differences from elements used in earlier versions of Solar Fire, due to different interpretations of the values given by Waldemath. After a discussion between Graham Dawson and Dieter Koch it has been agreed that the new solution is more likely to be correct. The new ephemeris does not agree with Delphine Jay’s ephemeris either, which is obviously inconsistent with Waldemath’s data.
This body has never been confirmed. With its 700-km diameter and an apparent diameter of 2.5 arc min, this should have been possible very soon after Waldemath’s publication. source

1181 Asteroid Lilith
A main-belt asteroid, represented on astrological charts by a glyph of an upturned hand (right). The asteroid Lilith was discovered in 1927 by Russian-French astronomer Benjamin Jekhowsky and given the provisional designation 1927CQ.
Here is the asteroids glyph

And what other factors are we working with?