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Urania*
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posted February 06, 2008 09:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ever met someone with whom you had great synastry with, but in no way you were attracted to?

I met this guy through a good friend of mine, and it's crazy how compatible our charts are. His Moon and Mars conjuncts my Venus and Sun which fall in his 7th house. His Venus conjuncts my N. Node, His Mercury conjuncts my Sun, my Pluto conjuncts his Sun. He even has his Sun at 18 degrees in Libra, exactly conjuncting my Part of Marriage. We should be all over each other, but we're not. I don't think he's ugly either, but I don't see him like that. He doesn't see me like that either. He's actually crazy about the friend of mine that introduced us. Their synastry is not bad but it has nothing showing great passion. Makes you wonder...maybe great synastry does not apply to everyone..Makes sense too, I know too many people that constantly choose Mr or Mrs Wrong over Mr/Mrs Right all the time.

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posted February 06, 2008 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Urania,

What are your Saturns doing?

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Urania*
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posted February 06, 2008 09:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Geo,

his Saturn sextiles my Ascendant. My Saturn squares his Neptune and conjuncts his Jupiter. It also makes a sextile with his Moon, Mars and Uranus.

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posted February 06, 2008 11:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you check, how you fulfil each other 7th house needs?

For example:
Someone with Pisces-DSC would be drawn to someone with Pisces-ASC, Neptune in 1st house or ASC in strong aspect to Neptune.
Do you have something like that?

I really think, the attraction starts there, with a comparision of what everyone needs.
I`d look at 7th house and 5th house for that (maybe also 8th house) and compare if the other one has Sun, Moon, ASC or chartruler-placements that fit.

If nothing`s there - well, then nothing`s there.

Also, how about aspects between 5th, 7th, 8th house ruler with the ruler of 5th, 7th, 8th and 1st house of the other person?
Particularly, any connections of 7th and 8th house of one person to the 1st and 5th house of the other person?


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posted February 06, 2008 04:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This just illustrates how astrology is all about potential, not destiny. It's still free will.

It's like how serial killers have really amazing synastry/composites with their victims, and vice versa.

There has to be some special spark that makes a person different from the rest in order for you to get involved with them intimately. If it weren't that way, you'd be compatible with millions of people on this planet. It's mysterious how love works.

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posted February 06, 2008 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's a Grand Cross on the synastry chart of my husband and I, it might not sound good on paper.

But there's nothing like a bit of spark (and it includes Mars/Mars Opposition!).

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posted February 06, 2008 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Blue Moon,

what are the aspects....what are the orbs of those aspects?

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posted February 06, 2008 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Urania, I'd say give it more time. I know many people who hook up after years of platonic friendship.

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posted February 06, 2008 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What signs and degrees are both of your Sun/Moon and Venus/Mars. Do they aspect each other?

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Urania*
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posted February 07, 2008 02:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are our planet placements and degrees. Mine:

Sun Scorpio 7°50'01 in house 4
Moon Pisces 21°53'36 in house 8
Mercury Sagittarius 1°26'56 end of house 4
Venus Scorpio 25°29'10 in house 4
Mars Leo 20°45'14 in house 1
Jupiter Virgo 5°41'38 in house 2
Saturn Virgo 23°16'42 in house 2
Uranus Scorpio 20°28'22 in house 4
Neptune Sagittarius 18°43'53 in house 5
Pluto Libra 19°52'28 in house 3
True Node Virgo 6°40'13 in house 2


HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
Ascendant Leo 6°51'04
2nd House Leo 29°08'25
3rd House Virgo 25°44'03
Imum Coeli Libra 27°40'09
5th House Sagittarius 2°50'58
6th House Capricorn 6°44'09
Descendant Aquarius 6°51'04
8th House Aquarius 29°08'25
9th House Pisces 25°44'03
Medium Coeli Aries 27°40'09
11th House Gemini 2°50'58
12th House Cancer 6°44'09

Him:

Sun Libra 18°29'57 in house 6
Moon Scorpio 16°20'57 in house 7
Mercury Scorpio 13°31'15 in house 7
Venus Virgo 7°46'06 in house 5
Mars Scorpio 29°34'46 in house 7
Jupiter Virgo 26°48'15 end of house 5
Saturn Libra 2°29'30 in house 6
Uranus Scorpio 23°38'52 in house 7
Neptune Sagittarius 20°20'55 in house 8
Pluto Libra 21°33'58 in house 6
True Node Leo 18°11'20 in house 4

Ascendant Taurus 11°07'06
2nd House Gemini 10°19'16
3rd House Cancer 3°20'42
Imum Coeli Cancer 25°48'01
5th House Leo 22°02'14
6th House Virgo 26°58'35
Descendant Scorpio 11°07'06
8th House Sagittarius 10°19'16
9th House Capricorn 3°20'42
Medium Coeli Capricorn 25°48'01
11th House Aquarius 22°02'14
12th House Pisces 26°58'35

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posted February 07, 2008 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Mars Opposition is within 3 degrees.

My parents have a Mars opposition within 2 degrees orb. It falls across my MC/IC.

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posted February 07, 2008 04:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
actually to be honest, it doesn't look *that* powerful. i study my friends synastry charts and i'm used to seeing tighter orbs and more compatible signs when it comes to mercury to mercury.

for example, your moon-sun opposition forms a 9 deg orb which i think is too big to be potent. your venus at 25 Scorpio is still pretty far away from his moon(though this aspect is active), and a 7 deg orb from Mercury. but i think your Mars is playing a much more influential role here, as the orbs are tighter in squares to his Scorpio stuff. As being that you are a woman, Mars comes more prominently in play when it comes to who you are attracted to. i think most of the mild attraction is through the Leo-Libra sextile from your Mars to his Sun which is a positive aspect but not enough.

you have different patterns of speaking and are at odds when it comes to doing things. emotionally though, you will be able to relate spectacular. perhaps a very close intimate friend?

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Urania*
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posted February 07, 2008 05:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I overreacted? So i needn't worry that one of these days I'm gonna start having lusty thoughts and romantic feelings over him? I sure do hope so...I mean he's interested in my friend ( who for the time being does not seem indifferent to him either). The last thing I need is this kind of trouble. Maybe I should avoid them just in case though lol.

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posted February 07, 2008 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think he'll end up with you anyway. Just a hunch.. no use fighting against the current if it flows that way.

The friend will find someone else.

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He's actually crazy about the friend of mine that introduced us.

because he told u that?

Maybe he's just going on about it to stir..

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posted February 07, 2008 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sysnasty is like a marriage compatibility report; Just because it says it will happen, does mean it will. My ex-grilfriend and I had an amazing Sysnasty; but we couldn't connect due to our differences in our life paths.

With the trnsaforming love that I have now for an amazing girl, she and I have... "challenging" aspects in our synasty chart. Yet we connect like Lego blocks Lol! Moral of the story: Compatibility is what you make of it .

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Urania*
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posted February 07, 2008 10:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Coral he didn't say anything to me, I could tell by the way he was acting around her -also he did tell her that he's falling for her already, wither or not that's true I do not know. Besides that he met her long before he met me. I don't think that seeing me would just erase his feelings towards her. And honestly, I can tell when someone is interested in me. With this one I don't believe the thought ever crossed his mind. I would have never of guessed our charts had so many common planetary placements if my friend never asked me to check his chart.

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posted February 07, 2008 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay. I see that you have no natal planets in Aquarius, your 7th house, the house of partnership and marriage, while he on the other hand has 4 planets in his 7th house, Scorpio. That makes for a difference in focus.

But, you have some important planets falling in HIS 7th house, and that could indicate indeed a relationship leading to marriage.

I see that your 7th house of marriage, Aquarius, falls in his 11th house, the house of friendship, so the friendship thing is big for between you.

Additionally, lets look at your 7th house of Aquarius. The ruler of Aquarius is Uranus, and your Uranus is in Scorpio, which falls in HIS 7th house, the house of marriage. So yes, I still say that there is a strong chance of you 2 eventually getting together.

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posted February 07, 2008 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jcweimpw     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been lurking for two years and finally realized that I can post.

I once had a "friend" that I had incredible synastry with. There was a considerable age difference, so it was unlikely that anything would have came of it. Then he stabbed me in the back and betrayed me. I can't be around people that I can't trust, so I told him goodbye. He still calls my cellphone sporadically, but never leaves a message.

My placements:
Sun in Scorpio 23 1st house
Ascendant in Scorpio 11
Moon in Leo 13 9th house
Mercury in Scorpio 4 12th house
Venus in Scorpio 21 1st house
Mars in Aquarius 17 3rd house
Jupiter in Cancer 29 9th house
Saturn in Scorpio 13 1st house
Karma asteroid in Virgo 10 10th house

His placements:
Sun in Libra 8 8th house
Ascendant in Aquarius 14
Moon in Scorpio 8 8th house
Mercury in Scorpio 2 8th house
Venus in Scorpio 20 9th house
Mars in Leo 17 7th house
Jupiter in Libra 17 8th house
Saturn in Libra 13 8th house
North Node in Cancer 29 6th house
Vertex in Virgo 10 7th house

Composite chart has stelliums in the 9th, 10th and 11th houses, including Venus/Mars conjunction in the 11th house and Moon/Uranus/Pluto conjunction in the 9th house. It was a very intense relationship.

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posted February 07, 2008 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About the friend situation..

Unless they are
- dating
- going out
- in a relationship
- de factos
- planning on being de factos
- getting engaged
- getting married
- planning on having babies (u get the drift lol)


It's hearsay (subject to interpretation - including your friends) and obviously not set in any stone.. so maybe he loved her that night when he said it lol.. I don't know - based on what you said so far there could be a lot between them or there could be nothing at all.

You should get to know him better.. if you think you guys could be right for each other and see where things go from there.

If things DO get serious with the friend, then sure.. stay out of it. But it's not at that stage yet.

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My friend would -literally- kick my ass even if she's not interested in him. She's very strict about this kind of thing. And she's right. We can't both be flirting with the same men, it would then become a competition and it wouldn't be a pretty one.

Not to mention that in case we were ever to become a couple I would always worry about him wanting my friend. :S

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posted February 08, 2008 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If she was in love with him, I'd understand.. but if it's some ego trip.. who cares?

I wasn't saying 'flirt with him' or 'hit on him'. You asked whether you should stay away from him. There is a lot of grey area between staying completely away from someone and putting the moves on.

I just meant be normal around him - see him as you would anyone else.. if the situation comes about, and talk, get to know him..

Only if you want to, off course.

If you're completely uninterested in him as a person and a man.. then don't worry about it. Astrology won't *make you* be interested in someone. That's your free will at work.

Anyway, just my opinion. You should do what makes you most comfortable.

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Urania*
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posted February 08, 2008 10:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Coral no, I get what you're saying and even though I'm intrigued to test the mars/venus conjunction in synastry - and in Scorpio no less - I won't pursue anything because I feel it would be wrong. If it's fated to happen then OK but for the time being I'm staying out of the way.

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posted February 08, 2008 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jcweimpw,

I noticed that none of the big 3 are in compatible signs

Your Suns aren't in compatible elements
Your Moons aren't in compatible elements
Your Ascendants aren't in compatible elements

having all of your big 3 in incompatible elements is a big sign of incompatibility in traditional astrology

2 of the big 3 in compatible elements would indicate some good basic compatibility.

the Mars in tight opposition also is very challenging as actions,passions are at odds with each other. This can be rather challenging if you don't have basic compatibility.

You didn't list your Uranus,Neptune,and Pluto placements....so I couldn't see how they compare with the other planets,points. Also the aspects to the Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis are important to. Cosmobiologists and Uranian Astrology believe that Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis is the most important point..even more important than the Ascendant/Descendant axis.


There is also no telling what's in the declinations.

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posted February 08, 2008 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Urania,


Your Suns aren't in compatible elements
Your Ascendants aren't in compatible elements
Your Moons are in compatible elements

So 1 out of your big 3 are in compatible elements... that's doesn't show a good degree of basic compatibility. at least 2 out of the big 3 would be good for compatibility.
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also to add to that....Your Marses aren't in compatible elements either nor are your Mercurys. Your Venuses are.

There is also no telling what's going on in the declinations.


like others have said in here,

free will is the ultimate factor.

there are many factors in why people with good synastries might not be interested in each other.

some factors could be things like age difference,ethnic differences,racial differences,intellectual differences,social background differences,religious differences,educational differences....they may not like people who do drugs,alcohol,or party a lot.....some might think that person is not attractive looking....some might prefer a person of the same race,some might prefer a person of a difference race, some might like partners who have lots of money, some might like partners who are muscular, some might like partners who are thin...............it really depends on the person.


There was a couple that had numerous trines and only one hard aspect - Saturn square Neptune.

Together,they were very lazy...no ambition....both were into smoking pot,used other drugs. Both came from dysfunctional homes. They met in Astrology channel on irc.So they first met each other online. I knew them,and I met them in person when they were a couple.

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posted February 09, 2008 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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