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HunkOfRope
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posted February 14, 2008 01:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm feeling more and more annoyed with someone I admitted liking to.
He ran away after that- literally.
I know he likes me, but ever since I told him, he's changed routes to class and things. He's afraid of this, and I want to call him a coward, but I can understand what's going on.
He has a tight Moon square Venus, Moon conjunct Pluto, and Venus square Pluto.
Can you help me with what's going on?
I'm willing to wait, certainly, but what do you have to fear in love?

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HunkOfRope
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posted February 14, 2008 01:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some people feel as if they're going to lose everything if they love.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 14, 2008 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't you mean, "What does a person with a tight Moon square Venus, Moon conjunct Pluto, and Venus square Pluto have to fear in love,"? I'll tell you. Profoundly disturbing emotions which most people are in no position to imagine, and definitely should not expect others to confront for their sakes. Would you be afraid of going to war? Would you call it "cowardice", if a man avoided going to war until confronted with an extremely good reason? Well, when Pluto conjuncts your Moon and Squares your Venus, love and war are not far off. I suggest you give him space, and, only if you really feel the possibility for something HUGE should you put any energy into bringing about a romantic relationship. These people's hearts are not to be trespassed upon without divine permission. Good luck with everything.



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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 14, 2008 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Some people, like, for instance,
people with Pluto in dynamic aspect to the Moon and Venus,
may indeed lose everything when they love.

Mental institutions exist, in part,
for cases just like this.

Hearts break,
and deep hearts break deeply.
Sometimes they don't heal;
not in this life, anyway.

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SexyScorp103
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posted February 14, 2008 01:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
a guy that i love, a gemini, hasn't run away for good YET but he runs away periodically when things start to get more serious - basically only with me! it hurts, believe me i feel youre pain. In my case it's just to intense for him, from the aspects you listed my guess would be the same for yours.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 14, 2008 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are the aspect orbs?

A 7 degree orb is nothing like a 0 degree orb.

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HunkOfRope
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posted February 14, 2008 01:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, that's what I mean.
I know what's going on in him, but I'm bothered to feel that my love's been turned away.
I wrote a great letter to him and literally shook to the bone writing it. I had to rewrite it five times. I've never been a girl to show my love for someone, but I liked him enough to do it. I'm a responsible person, and I strive to get to know him, if he would just let me.
So here I am, walking the halls without seeing his face. He's no longer here after declaring my love. He's afraid, alright, but I'm not trying to hurt him. I have no wrong intentions.
I've been through a lot, too. I hope he'd understand.
Yet I fear I'll be left hanging. He'll never answer to me.

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HunkOfRope
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posted February 14, 2008 01:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The orb for Moon conjunct Pluto is 2 degrees or less. The other aspects are pretty close.

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HunkOfRope
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posted February 14, 2008 01:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't want to call him a coward.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 14, 2008 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you have a lot of Scorpio or Pluto in your chart?

Venus and the Moon, in a (straight) man's chart,
indicate the type of women he is attracted to.

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HunkOfRope
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posted February 14, 2008 01:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 14, 2008 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I don't want to call him a coward."

Then don't.

Unless Pluto is afflicting your Moon and Venus,
you are in no position to judge him.

And, even if you did have those aspects,
and could relate to those self-swallowing feelings,
the entire chart must be taken into account.

You already sound like an intolerant person to me;
someone who would not care to, or know how to,
understand an intensely passionate man like him.

If you understood at all,
you wouldnt be starting a thread about him
called "A coward".

Frankly, I dont think he is a coward
for avoiding a relationship with
such an apparently judgemental person.

How would he react, if he saw this thread,
and heard you refer to him as a "coward"?

I'm sure he'd surrender his deepest heart in an insant, lol.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 14, 2008 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

No, you dont have much Scorpio or Pluto.

The relationship may be intense,
on account of the interaspects, but,
its unlikely that he'll find what he's looking for.

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HunkOfRope
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posted February 14, 2008 01:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do care. That's why I'm posting.
I have no wrong intentions. I understand if he feels uncomfortable with the thought of a relationship; I do, too. I did for a long time. I've never done this before, and it took a lot of courage. I have fears and so does he. He doesn't have to flee from me. I'm willing to listen and I already understand.

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HunkOfRope
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posted February 14, 2008 01:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And I find your thinking a little faulty. The aspects between us are pretty damn good.
That's why he cares.

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Xodian
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posted February 14, 2008 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If this is gonna be a relationship, he has more to consider here then himself HOR. Imagine it yourself; If he believes that he might get too possesive or harm you one way or another if he innitiates a deep relationship, then he is just looking after you in an indirect way.

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what do you have to fear in love?

Love itself or what one might precieve as love and the other person might not.

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And I find your thinking a little faulty. The aspects between us are pretty damn good.
That's why he cares.

Do you know his past history? Did he have relationships before? Did he go through past breakups? etc.

Aspects are only part of the equation.

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posted February 14, 2008 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've had amazing synastry with numerous people.
Trust me, its not enough.

Now that you've been called out,
of course, you are trying to deny it,
and paint yourself as an understanding person,
but you still called him a coward,
and your views show that you are not looking
to understand the reasons why he is as he is,
but, for reasons why he should be something other than he is.

A man with Moon Square Venus wants someone
who is both lunar and venusian, -
these planets have to do with sympathy and understanding.
Pluto in the mix describes the intensity
and depth of that sympathy and understanding.

You are already thinking so much about yourself
that you have begun looking for reasons
to blame him and demand more from him.

And it isnt even a relationship yet.

I hope I am wrong about you.

I hope you are good for him.

My heart goes out to people, especially men,
with aspects like the ones he has in his chart.
I feel protective of people like that.
I know that the majority of people in this world
do not understand, and do not care to understand
the nature of a man with aspects like that,
between the Moon, Venus, and Pluto.
I hope you are thinking of what is best for him,
and not just about what you want from him.

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AcousticGod
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posted February 14, 2008 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Coward" is a manipulative term in almost all uses. You don't call someone a coward unless they're not doing what you think they ought to be doing. It's a power play. You're not the boss of him, and he doesn't owe you anything.

Moon conjunct Pluto:
You are a born psychologist, understanding the inner workings of those with whom you come into contact. http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/moonplutoaspects.html
(He sees right through you.)

You have high ideals for a perfect partner, and would prefer to remain alone rather than become involved with others who do not match this ideal.

You can be impatient and domineering (Domineering people understand, but don't necessarily enjoy other domineering people such as yourself). Close friends are likely to be few, including only those who can accept intensity and depth rather than preoccupation with triviality, especially as your emotions are consistently powerful and active. http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrological-aspects/moon-conjunct-pluto.php

I have Moon conjunct Pluto myself, though my Pluto is in harmonious aspect to my Venus. I'm well aware of anyone's attempts at controlling me.

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CoralFrequency
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posted February 14, 2008 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uh oh..

I noticed reading another post that you are actually in high school.. so..
Forget everything I said previously, if you read it. Sorry, I didn't realize.

Best thing to do at this point, I think.. would be to ignore the letter and leave it for a while.. then ask him out one weekend on a GROUP date – not just the two of you.. Him and a friend and you and a friend.. and you can do something fun together - like go to the beach or something.. ok?

And just leave the letter issue - alone for a while.. Don't mention it if he doesn't.

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CoralFrequency
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posted February 14, 2008 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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i have tight Moon-Venus-Pluto aspects myself. Heart Shaped Cross said it well, good synastry is not enough. feelings run very deep and putting oneself in a vulnerable position is very, very painful. you may feel a broken heart is painful to everyone, which is true. but the moon-venus-pluto native must deep with the pain in a very internal way, in a way that many people don't have to encounter.

High school is a learning time for anyone entering a romantic relationship. this is no time to be making bold strides in one's life. the person is just learning about their own feelings - as a Moon-Venus-Pluto person, i never felt like I could open up my heart until I found myself in a more mature and trusting group of people in later college years.

i would relax, everyone gets a broken heart or two in High School

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venusdeindia
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posted February 15, 2008 06:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
he doesnt deserve to have u wait for him to turn around, no COWARD does.
move on

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GemGemGem
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posted February 15, 2008 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I'm interested in having some clarification on this topic.

I am dating a person right now with a Moon square Venus, and Venus square Pluto in his chart.

What does this mean in regards to his attitude/approach to love?

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Astra
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posted February 15, 2008 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the moon square venus, but my venus opposes pluto rather than squaring it, so perhaps I can provide a little bit of insight.

Basically, with these intense aspects, a person would crave true love and affection, BUT they are also well aware of the pitfalls of love. As a result, they are very cautious about giving their heart to anyone. Once they love someone, they give that person their heart and soul. The depth of their love knows no bounds

It requires a lot of patience and understanding to pursue someone with these aspects as they can be very mistrustful and can easily see through the bull**** of others. They may have been betrayed by loved ones in the past or deprived of love in some way. I'm not saying that all of this is true for ALL people with these harsh aspects, but it is true for me and my friends who also have these aspects.

The good news is that once you win their love, they will be completely devoted to you and genuinely love you. Just be careful that you don't cheat on them because then you may see the really ugly side. They can hate as much as they love, so be careful. Of course there are some that won't seek revenge, but will instead be hurt for a very long time.

Don't pursue a relationship with him unless you are really serious. Playing with his heart can have devastating effects. Remember these types have everything in the world to lose in love, so don't have them make that sacrifice unless you're willing to become completely devoted.

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Diandra23
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posted February 15, 2008 03:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heart Shped Cross

what do you mean by dynamic aspect to the Moon and Venus?

My bf has Pluto trine Moon and Pluto semisextile Venus.

Does in him applies what youve talked about? Of deep heart break and dificulty healings?

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