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Glaucus
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posted February 20, 2008 04:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have started off as a psychological astrologer influenced by the work of Glenn Perry,Liz Greene,Steven Forrest.
As a psychological astrologer,I have been very accurate and helped people. I feel that I was in compassionate in how I did Astrology...especially when I didn't charge for readings...and mostly wanted to do Astrology readings for people who had significant problems and painful pasts. Maybe because those are things that I experienced to. Therefore I was operating as an astrologer as more of a wounded healer with my Chiron sextile Midheaven with 42 minutes of arc and sextile North Node with 3 minutes of arc.

Then I leaned more towards transformational astrology by Stephen Arroyo,and even took a transformation class by Aspire Foundation which focuses on spiritual improvement,transformation.

I got involved with Magi Astrology which focused mainly on planetary geometry including declinations and a strong emphasis on Chiron. I lost interest in it, but I kept with strong focus on planetary geometry and declinations. I found Magi Astrology very useful for things like presidential elections when focusing on stuff like Cinderella transits.

Through an irc friend of mine and Magi Astrology, I got very interested in midpoints. Reinhold Ebertin's Cosmobiology fascinated me. It got me into using the 8th harmonic aspects,the semisquare and sesquiquadrate,midpoint pictures,90 degree dials. It's Cosmobiology which I prefer when looking at Medical Astrology. Ebertin was a physician,and so he knows a lot about Medical,Health stuff. Eleanora Kimmell wrote a book on COSMOBIOLOGY FOR THE 21ST CENTURY,and that gotten me more into Cosmobiology. I also started looking into Uranian Astrology which is what Cosmobiology is an offshoot of, but I couldn't really get into the use of hypothetical planets. I felt more comfortable with only using objects that astronomers discovered. Noel Tyl's Astrology uses midpoints extensively too.

I studied Vedic Astrology for a year. I feel that it is very insightful,accurate system but fatalistic in some respects. A vedic astrologer who did readings on irc got me interested in it. I actually liked the karmic approach to Astrology charts. However,I couldn't fathom with the Indian culture.....especially with the way Dalits(Untouchables) are treated in India. I also didn't believe that Vedic Astrology is compatible with Western Culture....especially with things like interracial relationships,international relationships.

Karmic approach to Astrology got me interested in Evolutionary Astrology by Jeffrey Wolf Green. I am a regular at Maurice Fernandez's Evolutionary Astrology forum. I learned about the insights that the planetary nodes can bring from that system. I even got Green's Planetary Node workshop DVD,and it helped me understand planetary nodes and the collective karmic significance of the nodes of Jupiter and beyond. I got more interested in the nodes when reading Zipporah Dobyns book.

Philip Sedgwick got me very interested in the Astronomy of Astrology as well as galactic points like black holes,quasars, pulsars,and extra solar planets. I even have strong Black Hole,quasar,pulsar,extrasolar planet emphasis. My street address was Pulsar Circle when I was a teenager....I have many pulsars in alignment with my IC. hahahahaha


Mainly, I still approach Astrology with a psychological approach leaning towards Evolutionary. My curiosities,hobbies,and research involves minor planets(asteroids,centaurs,kuiper belt objects),astronomical abstract points like nodes,perigree/apogee,perihelion/aphelion
Philip Sedgwick,Zane Stein,Roy MacKinnon,Mark Andrew Holmes,Demetra George,Douglas Bloch are the astrologers that really like when it comes to those things.

Since watching videos and reading articles by Astrology skeptics, I have been reconsidering things about Astrology. I have been think that the possibility of the Forer Effect maybe why some think that astrological methods could be accurate. I also thought about maybe there is heavenly body geometry that help me relate to my tropical zodiac sign and house placements. I have been thinking about discontinuing use of signs,houses. Astronomer/Astrologer,Johannes Kepler came up with the minor aspects,and he didn't believe in the use of signs nor houses in Astrology. He referred to the zodiac signs as Arabic Sorcery. He also debated if there were 12 houses or not. He devised the quintile and biquintile which is used by some astrologers. He devised the sesquiquadrate which is regularly used by Cosmobiologists and Uranian Astrologers. I think that I am thinking like him. Reinhold Ebertin didn't believe in the use of houses either,and his Cosmobiology seems to fit with my beliefs and views. Theodor Landscheidt's Astrology including planetary nodes (he pioneered) and golden ratio aspects seems right up my alley,and they seem to make really good sense.


I believe that Astrology is both a science and art.

As a Dyslexic,Dyspraxic,ADHDer, I am very rightbrained in my thinking(Mercury parallel Neptune - '33,Mercury biquintile Eris - '06,Mercury in golden ratio aspect to kuiper object,Pluto - '00,Mercury conjunct Sun/Neptune midpoint - '14,Mars square Mercury/Neptune midpoint - '54,Mercury square kuiper belt object,Rhadamanthus - '47,Mercury square kuiper belt object,FY9 - 2'01). Studying Astrology helped me be more analytical,detailed,and precise. It helped me tone down my nonlinear thought processes. I am more of a psychonalytical when it comes to being analytical. I feel that my intuition is useful when it comes to delineating a chart....no matter what system

My other interests are fixed stars......I prefer Fixed Star paran system by Bernadette Brady,and I have her book on Fixed Stars as well as her program,Starlight. Because of Brady,I don't believe in projecting stars onto the ecliptic....especially when many stars are off the ecliptic.

I was an Astrology Skeptic until the age of almost 28 years old. I believed that Astrology was B.S. because I didn't believe in sunsign Astrology based on things like my mom is a Gemini and I am a Scorpio,but we are very similar in personalities. After I learned about moonsigns, I had an accurate hunch of my mom having Moon in Scorpio. Her Moon squares Pluto. She also has Sun sextile/parallel Pluto and very Plutonian through the declinations and midpoint configurations. I had believed in genetics influenced personality,and that had nothing do with Astrology. Everything changed after my grandfather's death. That opened the door for me to get into Astrology.

my indicators for skepticism
Mercury contraparallel Saturn - '38,Mars oppose Mercury/Saturn - '5

My current transits in synchronicity with reconsidering things about Astrology


Transiting Pluto square Natal Pluto - '10 applying
Transiting Jupiter square Natal Uranus - 1'30 applying
Transiting Saturn square Natal Saturn - '22 applying
Transiting Saturn sextile Natal Sun - '10 applying
Transiting Saturn oppose Natal Moon - 2'19 applying
Transiting Uranus trine Natal Mercury - '42 applying
Transiting Chiron square Natal Mercury - 1'24 applying

Golden ratio aspect transits:

Transiting Pluto to Natal Mercury - '09 applying
Transiting Uranus to Natal Sun - '12 applying
Transiting Jupiter to Natal Sun - '21 applying
Transiting Jupiter to Natal Neptune - '30 applying
Transiting Eris to Natal Moon - '03 applying
Transiting Eris to Natal Jupiter - '10 applying


The Golden Section: A Cosmic Principle
THEODOR LANDSCHEIDT http://bourabai.narod.ru/landscheidt/consider.htm

Johannes Kepler www.skyscript.co.uk/kepler.html

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posted February 20, 2008 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a cool post.
    As your astro research bio shows, we are never done. There are always other methodologies and ideologies to explore. Like arteries.
You have some serious transformational transits right now Raymond.
    13 constellations, 13 signs. That Ptolemy knew there were 13 when he drew his map but, chose 12. This ties in with Linda's theory of new planets, new assignations and that the current dual sign rulerships will change. Ultimately I think that we will stay with 12, but the assignations of planets to signs will change once we absorb the significance of the discoveries.
There are two people on this board that I hesitate to share links with. yourfriendinspirit and yourself. Why? Because you both have serious skill in research/investigation. And you probably have already clicked on it. This site took weeks for me to digest. I still find something new every time I click on it. Today I learned that Louis IVX had Neptune on the ASC. While it centers on the astrocartography research of relocation astrologer Rob Couteau, includes over 400 pages of e-text and 350 astrocartography maps, ...it is much much more.

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posted February 20, 2008 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a taste of what Rob writes about Pluto->
    Transcendental Pluto

    Things keep their secrets.
    –Heraclitus.

    The roaring of lions, the howling of wolves, the raging of the stormy sea, and the destruc­tive sword, are portions of eternity too great for the eye of man.

    For light doth seize my brain
    With frantic pain.
    –William Blake, The Proverbs of Hell and “Mad Song” from Poetical Sketches.

    Called or not called, God shall be there.
    –Erasmus.


    Core meaning:

    Pluto is considered the Great Transformer of the cosmos and is epitomized by Einstein’s dictum that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. While the organization of energy is altered, metamorphosed, and transformed into new forms, the energy itself does not perish. Pluto symbolizes this transformative alteration and the process that determines such far-reaching change.
    Pluto rules in-depth transformation processes that occur in the psyche. While such processes have an enduring effect on the personality and on the structure of consciousness, they originate at a level far removed from the ego-complex and its ordinary functions and concerns. Pluto symbolizes the archetypal world of the col­lective unconscious (a terrain first brought to the attention of the contemporary world through the research of Carl Jung). Although each planetary symbol describes an archetypal pattern (typical patterns of perception and behavior that are innate and that transcend the spatial and temporal world), Pluto symbolizes the overall repository of the archetypes. It represents the “underworld” of the collective unconscious and of the collective psychic changes that originate there and that manifest as mass movements in social history.
    Pluto also rules psychoanalysis (and the collective aspects of the Freudian subconscious). The date of (astronomical) Pluto’s discovery roughly corresponds to the period of initial research into depth psychology: a field originally termed “deep psychology” and, later, the “depth psychology” of Freud, Adler, Jung, and others. The existence of Pluto was strongly suspected by Percival Lowell and by other astronomers as early as 1905; it was officially discovered by Clyde William Tombaugh in 1930. Besides the exploration of the Freudian subconscious and of the Jungian “collective unconscious,” these dates roughly parallel the era of the First World War and the rise of political mass movements (such as Fascism and National Socialism) that culminated in the Second World War.
    Such mass movements reflect a transpersonal dynamic at work within the collective unconscious. Whether on the mun­dane, intrapsychic, or spiritual level, Pluto symbolizes forces that mani­fest through broad, deep, and irrevocable change. Such Plutonian effects engender transgenerational repercussions, which reach forward through time (horizontally) and which reach up (vertically) and touch the foremost point of collective consciousness: the focal point round which humanity as a whole is regen­erated and reborn (i.e., the Zeitgeist). Since Pluto symbolizes forces that contain a greater potency and range than the ego, the proximity of such energies to conscious­ness is often experienced as life threatening, fracturing, or overwhelming. When the need for such change is not recognized, Pluto forcibly enacts it in ways that are often experienced as terrifying to the ego, with its limited field of con­sciousness and its merely personal range of experience and comprehension. It was in this sense that the philosopher Rudolf Otto conceived of God as a terrifying and fascinating force, which he called mysterium tremendum [Pluto] et fascinans [Neptune].1
    When such Plutonian energies are not feared and, instead, are “worked through” by means of a conscientious cooperation with the ego, this leads to a positive transforma­tion of consciousness. This is the goal of Pluto as manifested on the human plane. In accordance with its “depth” symbolism, Pluto signifies penetrating depths of awareness. Depth comprehension of the divinity of the higher Self (the god in man) is the ultimate goal of individuation, and it is toward this goal that Pluto con­stantly (often imperceptibly) moves. In its extroverted form, this includes a “reach­ing in-depth” into the divine Self of another person and achieving a spiritual understanding that transcends all mundane forms of comprehension and explication.

    Improper manifestation of the energy:

    •The attempt to transform another person against his will.
    •Widespread destructive transformations that affect people, places, or things and the psychic inflation that results in channeling such destructive energy.

    Just as Pluto is the mythic god of the underworld, the contemporary use of the term “underworld” signifies marginal forces in society, such as organized crime, that eat away at society in a manner that remains invisible to the ordinary person. This exemplifies the hidden or invisible nature of the Pluto principle; the most powerful and mysterious forces in the world remain beyond our capacity to perceive or to understand. When someone is unconsciously identified with Pluto, rather than assisting Pluto in its transformation of consciousness, they may act-out processes that reflect nega­tive, destructive transformations (either personal or social in nature). Pluto will then manifest as a need to control another person or situation, often in an “invisible” or “behind the scenes” fashion, e.g., executives of corporations who control processes of mass consumption. Leaders of crime syndicates personify yet another aspect of Pluto, especially in their seizing of “mass control” through negative forms: murder of enemies; corruption, on a global scale, of social-collective institutions etc. The phenomenon of “deep politics” or of the hidden agendas of the “powers that be” (sometimes referred to as the “invisible” government) also falls under the Plutonian rulership. In its most negative form, we have instances of mass surveillance and control; incarceration; and liquidation. Other negative keynotes include psychotherapists who misuse their knowledge of the “collective” unconscious and physicists whose research into subatomic particles results in the use of weapons of mass-destruction and control (e.g., the critical “mass” of an atom bomb).
    When the archetype of transformation directs energy to a new pathway of regeneration and that pathway is blocked, then mental illness may ensue. Pluto will then manifest in a repetitive cycle of symbolic behavior, ideation, or hallucination. Such symptoms contain meaningful symbols that point to rebirth and reconstitution, yet such clues and “hidden meanings” will not always be decipherable to consciousness. This is the meaning behind such complex, highly baroque symbol structures and behind the hermetic nature of neu­rotic and psychotic behavior and ideation.2 When the hidden meaning contained in such ideation remains unrecognized, the symbols will be acted out in a concrete, literal fashion. Since Pluto symbolizes energies origining at the fur­thest reaches of the archetypal realm, Pluto’s language, like that of myth, religion, and poetry, is metaphoric: rich in imagery and ideation.
    The “death and rebirth” function of Pluto tears away at and destroys out­moded forms of psychic functioning and transforms these into expressions that are more vital. When such regenerating pro­cesses are blocked or halted while in this “tearing down” phase,3 however, Pluto will manifest in self-destructive urges. Instead of the regenerating power of “death and rebirth,” destructive behaviors and a fascination with “dark forces” will ensue, minus any positive attempt at regeneration or reconstitution. Another typical form of halted transformation is an obsession with suicide: instead of the rebirth of consciousness, the psyche concretizes the death-and-rebirth symbolism as a literal need to physically perish.4
    When Pluto’s positive function of in-depth transformation is blocked, a yearning for inner transformation will haunt the personality, but the means of effecting such a change will remain difficult or impossible to imagine. It will then manifest in a projected guise, e.g., as an unconscious attraction to “shady characters” who embody dark, underworld aspects of the Pluto complex. This represents a dangerous psychic symptom, particularly if it involves a romantic attraction. A fascination for dubious situa­tions or experiences that seem to promise some form of elemental regeneration will result. Yet the surrendering of one’s will to the control of a repressive force is usually the price one must pay (e.g., submitting oneself to analysis with an irresponsi­ble psychotherapist; the offer of lucrative employment with an organized crime figure; agreeing to a quid quo pro arrangement with a powerful yet corrupt politician or political machine etc.). Such dangerous behavior is avoided if the need to “redeem” the unconsciously functioning transformation process is consciously recognized.

    Transcendental potential:

    One of Pluto’s most peculiar qualities is that, sometimes, even if one is working con­sciously with psychological transformation processes, the effects of such processes are only dimly perceived at the level of ego-consciousness (particularly when such work is in process). This is a keynote effect of Pluto’s “invisible” quality.5 Many of the effects wrought by Pluto will not be consciously assimilated or fully appreciated until years later, well after Pluto has achieved its metamorphosis.
    There may be a function of psychic self-pres­ervation at work here, as certain experiences are, indeed, over­whelming, especially if they are made too apparent to the conscious mind while they are occurring. For example, a person undergoing medical treatment for a life-threatening illness may repress the full implications of such an experience until some time afterward, when the ego will more safely absorb the horrifying details of such an event. Similarly, the astrological (or astrocartographic) enhancement of Pluto as a Transcendental energy will result in transformations that may take years to fully integrate.
    Pluto symbolizes the need to comprehend things at a core level: to uncover ultimate truth. Historically, this has manifested in a variety of ways: examples include Sigmund Freud, who studied under Charcot in Paris, in proximity to his Transcendental Pluto; Teilhard de Chardin, who contemplated the evolution of spirit and matter and the processes of creation and change in the universe under his Transcendental Pluto, in China; and the Dalai Lama, born under Transcen­dental Pluto in Tibet, who served as a figurehead for collective spiritual move­ments that reaped social change in the world-at-large.
    In the Tran­scendental Pluto region, psychic processes that were previously blocked or repressed will break into consciousness in the form of impersonal images that press for conscious recognition and formal expression in life. The “sex, death, and rebirth” theme of Scorpio (traditionally ruled by Pluto) will find formal expression in a broader understanding of sexuality, perhaps as a means of transforming or transcending the personal identity (e.g., la petite mort); an awareness of death as the ulti­mate transformer of the Self; and a fuller comprehension of the forces that must be channeled to effect a collective rebirth in the global society. Pluto’s transformational energy finds expression in cer­tain classic Pluto professions: a therapist who tears down inhibiting autonomous complexes; an archaeologist who tears through layers of sediment to uncover archaic ruins; a researcher who delves deeper and deeper, burrowing into the essence of his subject; a surgeon who penetrates the body and transforms its functioning.
    The search for an ultimate metaphysical truth (and the realization that it will ever elude us) lies at the center of the Plutonian mystery. According to Rudolf Otto:

    The truly ‘mysterious’ object is beyond our apprehension and com­prehension, not only because our knowledge has certain irremov­able limits, but because in it we come upon something inherently ‘wholly other’, whose kind and character are incommensurable with our own, and before which we therefore recoil in a wonder that strikes us chill and numb.6

    Or, as succinctly stated by Tersteegen:

    A God comprehended is no God.

    As Jung has remarked, “Death is a drawing together of two worlds, not an end. We are the bridge.”7 Through Pluto, worlds are drawn together and, through the new incarna­tion of personality, symbolized by the Sun, the cycle begins once again. In the words of Heraclitus, “The beginning [Sun] is the end [Pluto].”

    Personalities with Primary Transcendental Pluto:

    Muhammad Ali (world heavy-weight boxing champion renowned for his “destructive” talent); the Dalai-Lama (born near Primary Pluto in Tibet; a spiritual leader who personified a “transformation and metamorphosis of self”; renowned for “catalyzing deep-seated change in the personality” of others); Claude Debussy (musician whose work “revolutionized and transformed” composition in the late nineteenth- and early twentieth century); Benjamin Disraeli (British statesman remembered for “imposing the will” of England on other nations: notably, through the imperi­alistic policy of his second ministry–a classic Pluto keynote of dictatorial “control of others”); Adolf Eichmann (Nazi and chief-coordinator of the deportation of Jews to the “extermination centers,” whose Secondary Mars / Primary Pluto manifested as “autocratic, willful, aggressive, and violent acts leading to widespread social upheaval”; “enforced collective transformation”; and “energizing the forces of mass destruction”; whose negative use of such energies epitomized the darker qualities inherent in this intense planetary pairing); F. Scott Fitzgerald ([with equally aspected Saturn] author who chronicled “excess and self-destruction” in his autobiography, The Crack-Up, and in his most acclaimed novel, The Great Gatsby (which was written under his Primary Pluto line, in France), and who was a central figure in the “Lost Generation” Paris of the 1920s: a site directly under his Primary Pluto); Sigmund Freud (whose “research” led to the discovery of “depth psychology” and the “unconscious”); Benito Mussolini (“dictator” whose “politi­cal activism” led to political upheaval, “mass movements, and social turmoil”); Arthur Rimbaud ([with equally aspected Venus] poet who “revolutionized” creative expression in modern literature); Teilhard de Chardin (“paleontologist” whose “research” near his Pri­mary Pluto line in China led to the discovery of the Peking Man; whose “deeply reflective” writings explore “profound transformation processes in the cosmos” and “ultimate ques­tions concerning cosmological processes”; whose writings were censored and repressed by the Church and which were all pub­lished “posthumously” (Pluto rules the “return of the repressed”);8 Luchino Visconti (Italian film director who attempted to “transform social conditions” through the artistic medium of film [with Secondary Venus] and whose later works portray “decadence”).

    * * *

    Keynote phrases for Pluto:

    •Wisdom gained through in-depth transformation processes, often experienced as horrifying, annihilating, and ego fracturing.
    •The tripartite archetypal process of: complete breakdown into constituent elements; realignment and metamorphosis; transformation, regeneration, and renewal (rebirth).
    •A process whereby the ego or will (Sun) undergoes a thorough change through an intercession of the transpersonal Self (the latter referred to as the Divine Will; the Cosmic Will; the imago Dei; or the god in man).
    •The experience of God as a terrifying or insurmountable obstacle upon which the iden­tity is smashed apart and, ultimately, reborn.
    •The deus absconditus: the “hidden” or “concealed God,” whose presence is felt during experiences of profound and irrevocable change.
    •The final form of yang consciousness in the symbolic solar system.
    •Yang energy experienced as a cosmic identity or transpersonal spirit.

    1. See his Das Heilige (1923): “These two qualities, the daunting and the fascinating, now combine in a strange harmony of contrasts, and the resultant dual character of the numi­nous consciousness, to which the entire religious development bears witness, at any rate from the level of the ‘daemonic dread’ onwards, is at once the strangest and most notewor­thy phenomenon in the whole history of religion.” The Idea of the Holy, trans. John W. Harvey, p. 31. Or, in the words of Joseph Campbell, “Here is the revelation. And it’s a rev­elation of what? Of a mysterium. A mystery. And there are two aspects to it: one is the tre­mendum, the horrific, and the other is the fascinans, the charm.” “[Kant] said that blue eyes are beautiful; dark eyes are sublime. And this indicates the problem. The problem is beauty and the sublime. Beauty invokes; the sublime shatters, overpowers ... It’s the expe­rience of the mysterium tremendum. The beauty is the experience of the mysterium fascin­ans: that’s the difference.” The Hero’s Journey, pp. 191, 88-89. Yang planets fall under the category of the mysterium tremendum; yin planets describe various stages of fascinans, as noted in my essay, “Summary of Planetary Energetic Evolution.”
    2. John Weir Perry, Roots of Renewal in Myth and Madness.
    3. See Robert Hand, Horoscope Symbols.
    4. See Hillman, Suicide and the Soul. Hillman’s emphasis is on suicide as the unintegrated fantasy of rebirth.
    5. Often, this effect is often observed in natives undergoing a Pluto transit, particularly when the native is open to working with the transformative powers of Pluto, rather than fearing change and psychic transformation. (A Pluto transit occurs when Pluto reaches a degree in the zodiac that aligns with a planetary degree in the horoscope.)
    6. Otto, “The Analysis of ‘Mysterium’,” The Idea of the Holy, p. 28. (See my essay, “Numinous Consciousness.”) This work, which explores essential aspects of the fascinans et tremendum experience, was published in 1917 (and it appeared in English translation in 1923): the quintessential Pluto epoch, marked by Tombaugh’s discovery of the planet, as well as by the rise of mass movements, fascism, world wars, and research into subatomic physics and the psychology of the collective unconscious–all classic Pluto themes, as previously noted. At the moment of Tombaugh’s discovery of astronomical Pluto, Pluto and Saturn (Pluto’s lesser octave) were the least aspected planets: hence, they were the Primary Transcendentals for the discovery of astronomical Pluto. (See part two: Transcendental Events.)
    7. C. G. Jung, Emma Jung, Toni Wolff, p. 95, as cited by Claire Dunne, Carl Jung: Wounded Healer of the Soul. An Illustrated Biography, p. 180.
    8. Brau, Jean-Louis, Helen Weaver, and Allan Edmands, Larousse Encyclopedia of Astrol­ogy. Ed. Helen Weaver. New York: McGraw-Hill, 1980, p. 220.

    Additional Pluto quotes:

    What we are reluctant to touch often seems the very fabric of our salvation.
    (Don DeLillo, White Noise.)

    That which always was, / and is, and will be everlasting fire, / the same for all, the cosmos, / made neither by god nor man, / replenishes in measure / as it burns away.


    By cosmic rule, / as day yields night, / so winter summer, / war peace, plenty famine. / All things change. / Fire penetrates the lump / of myrrh, until the joining / bodies die and rise again / in smoke called incense.


    What was scattered / gathers. / What was gathered / blows apart.


    The living, when the dead / wood of the bow / springs back to life, must die.


    Gods live past our meager death. / We die past their ceaseless living.


    After death comes / nothing hoped for / nor imagined.
    (Heraclitus.)

    Even in a wound there is the power to heal.
    (Nietzsche, Twilight of the Gods.)

    Does anyone know what is in his subconscious? It would not be his subconscious if he did.
    (Picasso.)

    True philosophers make dying their profession.
    (Plato.)

    The more one probes, the more one deepens the mystery; it’s always out of reach.
    (Georges Braque.)

Summary of Planetary Energetic Evolution

Spirit
. Soul

(Yang Planets):
. (Yin Planets):

. . .
Sun
Individual self:
egocentric individualization, self-expression / -creation
. Moon
Personal soul:
the intrapsychic emotional foundation; personally supportive unions

. Mercury
Cognition & communication: intellectual formation and & comprehension (lending form & order to cognition & consciousness)
.
Mars
Interpersonal self:
interactive separation & specialization
. Venus
Interpersonal soul: interpersonal intimacy & relationship

Saturn
Societal self:
organization of scientific & institutionalization objective truths
. Jupiter
Societal soul:
organization & institutionalization of cultural & subjective truths

. Uranus
Transpersonal intuition, inspiration, communication:
reformation and restructuring of cognition and consciousness
.
Pluto
Transpersonal self:
metaphysical transformation, reconstitution, renewal
. Neptune
Transpersonal soul:
cosmic dissolution, reunion, incorporation

Mysterium Tremendum . Mysterium Fascinans

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Dear NODE,

Thnk you for your wonderful input about Pluto. This is so true NODE, I've run lots of charts of mystics and many of them have Scorpio Ascendant. These Scorpio-Ascendant-Mystics are powerful Mystics who left incorrupt bodies, bone relics, and who can perform miracles...
Cordially,
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posted March 08, 2008 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ranti     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, as a beginner it will take me sometime just to understand all that you are talking about here but you know what; it's always good having this 'log' so that other travelers, regardless of their mileage, can stop by and munch on. If possible I'd like to see you put them together somewhere for this purpose though.

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