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Cappyscorp23
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posted February 22, 2008 01:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in Scorpio- your opinions, thoughts,and whatever else....

Specifically, what do you guys think of Mars/Pluto conjunct in Scorpio? And those of you who have this aspect, how does it play out in your lives in every area (not just sexually- the only thing most ever really talk about when discussing this placement)? I have this placement and was wondering who else has experienced this type of energy in his/her life. It's a powerful feeling.

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yourfriendinspirit
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posted February 22, 2008 02:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Here's the chart you tried to post.
Hope this helps...

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blue moon
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posted February 22, 2008 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Back in the day I had a friend with Mars at Scorpio at 19*.

Were there sexual vibes? I'd say.

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Beka
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posted February 22, 2008 04:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

:P

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blue moon
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posted February 22, 2008 05:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It reminds me of the song, "those were the days, my friend, I thought they'd never end".

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Glaucus
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posted February 22, 2008 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Mars conjunct dwarf planet,Pluto seems kinda wide to me

but

I couldn't help noticing that your Mars is conjunct the heliocentric South Mars Node. That's a strong Mars energy.

MARS NODES indicate assertive, aggressive behaviour, sporting prowess, accidents and operations. http://www.astrologycosmobiology.com.au/planetary_nodes.html

Also your almost exact Sun-Mercury cazimi is impressive too. Geminis,Virgos have nothing on you! A lot of nervous energy,mental activity indicated...can be very intellectual depending on what else is in the chart.

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted February 22, 2008 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Glaucus, I wouldn't read that as a conjunction, it's too wide.

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teaologist
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posted February 22, 2008 10:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interestiing...

So if the conjunction doesn't count, does that mean this person has an unaspected Mars?

Also, what are the recommended orbs for ptolemaic aspects again (the notoriously ever-repeated question)?

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posted February 22, 2008 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I personally use a 6 degree orb with all aspects. On a windy day, I might let the orb go a little further, but it starts to get ridiculous when you take it past 7 degrees. It all depends on the client. I've seen some clients who express the wider orbs very loudly in their lives, so Glaucus probably has a point about the conjunction here being too wide, but that Pluto is conjuncting the Mars Nodal Axis, which could be what CS23 is feeling.

If I had the time, I would take a look at the Nodal stuff that Glaucus is bringing to our attention, I just might do that at some point in the future.

If you are talking about sextiles in a chart, my feeling is that 6 degrees is truly the limit. It's really wishful thinking at that point, but you never know. I'm sure other astrologers here have different rules that they go by as far as orbs are concerned. It can get to the point where it's intuitive or other aspects in the chart completely take over.

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Green Fairy
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posted February 22, 2008 03:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[IMO]
The conjunction might be a bit wide, it's not out of sign though. I'd say it matters as well.

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Cappyscorp23
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posted February 22, 2008 04:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for attaching the chart, YFIS. I was multi-tasking while I was making this post, and was having some difficulties getting it to work.....

Anyhow, I was also wondering about midpoints. Could the fact that I have Mars=Pluto/AC have something to do with why I feel that the Mars/Pluto "conjunction" is in orb? Midpoints often tend to blend the energies more strongly.

Teaologist- I do have a Mars/Jupiter quincunx and some quintiles/biquintiles to Mars (if those count), so no, I don't think it could be considered as unaspected. And I can never get a good interpretation of that quincunx aspect because a lot of astrologers trivialize it I think. But, I find it to be significant. And I DO think that the Mars nodal axis must be pretty significant, as it's the planet Mars that's actually at that degree in my chart.

I'm also confused as to why there are so many NEGATIVE interpretations of Mars and Pluto in the 12th. Especially, when Mars (or Pluto depending on whether or not you use ancient or modern rulership) is the sole dispositor of my chart. Interestingly enough, I also have a sole house dispositor, Venus, but that's another matter entirely.

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Glaucus
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posted February 22, 2008 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah.....midpoint pictures could help you relate to wide orbed aspects. Robert Hand even wrote about that in his book,HOROSCOPE SYMBOLS

I have Ascendant square Mars/Pluto midpoint with 4 minutes of arc and Pluto square Sun/Mars midpoint with 14 minutes of arc. Maybe that helps me relate to my Pluto in 1st.

Maybe I can relate to Moon quincunx Pluto with 2'19 orb because my Moon semisquare Sun/Pluto midpoint with 5 minutes of arc.

When Cosmobiologists look at midpoints,they use narrower orbs for their regular aspects. They focus only on the hard aspects.


Another thing too is before the outerplanets were discovered, Ptolemy used aspects by sign.
Remember the outerplanets weren't used in those days because they weren't discovered.
The whole sign aspects don't work with the outerplanets because they relate more to the collective. That's why Classical Astrologers and Vedic Astrologers don't use the outerplanets.


You can calculate your planetary nodes here
Your Mars is conjunct South Mars Node. All the heliocentric Nodes are very,very slow moving..far more slow moving than the outerplanets. They relate more to the collective. That's how powerful,significant your Heliocentric South Mars Node conjunct your Mars is. I have heliocentric South Mars Node and heliocentric South Mercury Node conjunct my Mercury.

http://www.megadelfi.com/~jonathan/pos/


Where it says Center, make sure that you select Heliocentric

to get the nodes
go down to Fields.....then check NNode which is North Node and SNode is South Node

then when they are calculated.....look at Mars's coordinates and you will see the Nodes.


btw....orbs are very subjective....they are one of the most hotly debated things among astrologers.

so its a matter of what you feel comfortable with....if wide orbs work for you,use them.

I like to keep them narrow because of geometric purposes and with the narrow orb aspects raise more noise than the wider aspects.

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phoenix1111
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posted February 23, 2008 12:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
blue moon-

quote:
It reminds me of the song, "those were the days, my friend, I thought they'd never end".

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Mariangela
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posted February 23, 2008 10:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that song is Fire and Rain by James Taylor

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teaologist
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posted February 23, 2008 11:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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augentier
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posted February 23, 2008 01:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have never met a Mars in Scorpio man that I've *not* been sexually charged around. Whether he's gorgeous, married, ugly, or over the internet..I feel it.

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stillatlarge
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posted February 23, 2008 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was Mary Hopkins...Those Were the Days My Friend...This is the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siLcSl2nmqA

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