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babeefoxx
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posted March 01, 2008 04:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't been on here in a while, how's everyone doing? Good I hope!

Anyhoo, I recently got into a fight with my Virgo. It started when he started talking about this car accident that happened in his area which sparked anxiety I have toward dying and driving (separately). I am usually pretty brave, but being in a past serious car accident makes me scared to drive, mind you I wasn't saying i'd never drive again!
So he started yelling at me and saying that my fears are annoying and that I can't go on in life thinking that all of the time. (I know that, I'm an Aries). I felt totally betrayed and discriminated against because I thought he of all people would understand. I told him, "I think my fears are a little more understandable than yours of the ocean and birds, you don't see the birds looking for their new victims like in the Alfred Hitchcock movie!"
He hung up on me and called me disgusting and won't answer my phone calls. I can't believe something like this turned so serious so quickly. How can I make this work again and let him know that it's important that he takes these things into consideration?

He has a Cancer rising and Libra moon, by the way.

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Diandra23
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posted March 01, 2008 05:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HI Babeefox

that was just a disagreement you had - nothing too ser~ious i think so dont worry too much.

After some days you both will laugh about this and will miss each ohter so that will easily make peace with each other.

Virgos are very hard to deal with ( i know,im a Virgo myself),they are perfecionist,and always trying to be "perfect" in everything..and that just annoys a lot

By what i am seeing,he was just afraid that your own fears will limit you,and that you would feel trapped by it,so he just tried to made his point and say you must overcome your fears.

You on the other side,instead of feeling his worries concerning you,thought that he was attacking with the purpose of hurting you wasnt it?

Talks to each ohter and say what you are feeling. He, as a Cancer ASC is definately very sensitive and by what youve said about his own fears,now he is the ones feeling most misunderstood and hurted ( Cancers are like that as you know...). Libra Moon..so add more sensitiveness to ir

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Kat
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posted March 01, 2008 05:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,
If someone becomes upset over someone else's dilemma it is sparking something in him that has nothing to do with you! It could be anything that he is not dealing with. His frustration is at his own unhealed self and really not with you. Your fear annoyed him because he has certain expectations of his own self and instead of dealing with them he lashed out on you.

This has nothing to do with astrology. Everyone does it ALL THE TIME. To make matters worse, you then pointed the finger and turned the situation onto him by saying "I think my fears are a little more understandable than yours..."

I think the best thing you can do is learn how to argue constructively; start searching for tips that may include how to listen to another person, playing fair instead of blaming, calming your emotions, etc. Start reading book on the topic. You commented "... let him know that it's important that he takes these things into consideration?" Keep in mind the only person that you can control is yourself. He must choose to how to behave and respond. You can only set an example through your actions on how you want to be treated.

Give it some time. Wait and see what happens.See how you can learn new skills in relating. Strengthen yourself and you will attract people that reflect your state of consciousness.(Personnally I would not call him back, but I don't know your history with him. So you need to go with your gut. Right now I think your wounded and I'd hate to see you go back to him whining.)

I know I probably gave you advice that is tough to swallow and takes time to learn. Take care of yourself.
Blessings,
Kat

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writesomething
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posted March 01, 2008 06:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgos can be so grumpy sometimes...lol
I normally try to stay away from Virgo men...

Just give him time to be by himself. Virgos arent good at saying "sorry" or coming around...you'll have to be the one to do that.
Do remember, that Sun is in Pisces and its really effecting Virgos in general this month...especially with Uranus in Pisces..Im a virgo myself, and have been feeling very irritable this month. Dont take offense.

What degree is his rising? Pluto opposing his rising would cause intense irritability and control issues...Jupiter is saving your relationship right now, but next year it will move away and youll be left with Pluto for years to come...your relationship will either dissolve or survive depending how strong your relationship is.

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SilverFairy
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posted March 01, 2008 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YEP! Virgo's are grumpy... and my husband has gotten after me a few times, Because I have a lot of anxiety and really trying to overcome all of it. But with stress comes anger and the resentment. He has made comments as well. BUT He does apologize and I get over things pretty quickly. I understand were he's coming from.. he's got a lot on his shoulders. He's tough to deal with but i'm no better.

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mrsxdwinchester
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posted March 01, 2008 08:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not a Virgo Sun but I do have Mercury, Venus, Mars and my Ascendant in Virgo.

It irks me so much when I feel people are being irrational. My boyfriend is an emotionally intense Scorpio and we've gotten into plenty of fights over me not being sympathetic over something or another.

My mom and one of my very best friends are Aries. I take them in small doses though to avoid disagreements and hurt feelings.

My dad is a Virgo Sun, with Mercury, Mars, and Pluto in Virgo. He's pretty much the same way but he and my mom go well together for some reason.

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BLKFox
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posted March 01, 2008 10:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know what it is with me & Virgos...I seem to attract them (probably my Moon in Cap), but I just don't seem to be able to get along with them....they often seem contentious and way too finiky for me...and also kinda kinky in a way I find extremely disturbing...
They are often beautiful to look at, and I am inclined to think many of them have hidden agendas...but not like a Scorpio or Gemini...also, I've encountered many who could use a little self confidence.....

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Motherkonfessor
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posted March 02, 2008 02:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great!!

Another "Virgos suck" thread! how original!!

yup~ we are perfectionist picky sharp-tongued bundles of neurosis. Thanks. Like we didn't know that already. We only tell ourselves, every five minutes, that we are unfit for humanity.

And, with Saturn in Virgo for the next two years, we can all look forward to the Virgos in our lives being even MORE uptight than usual.

you know, its not easy.. taking out the garbage for everyone else. Its not easy to always feel obligated to follow the rules, to always be the "fun-killer." We have feelings too. Feelings that we have to suppress to keep the peace, feelings that we don't talk about because every other sign is just way more needy than we are...or just more dramatic than we are.

The word that is always used to describe Virgos is "service." Yeah, that's awesome. Libras are beautiful, Leos are fantastic, Geminis are fun. Imagine being the sign that is condemned to picking up everyone else's messes. It's hard enough to maintain some sense of self worth when even ASTROLOGY tells you that your purpose in life is to shut up and suck it up.

MK

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Nitpicky Sun
WishyWashy Moon
Obsessive Ascendant

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virgoleorising
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posted March 02, 2008 07:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm a virgo and love it and embrace my neurotic self, so what if we can out geisha a geisha, so what if were the secret sex kinks of the zodiac, were dependable, witty, most likely successful, loyal friends, shall i go on with the pages. i think we've gotten a bad a rap and need to stand up for ourselves quit saying sorry (the virgos i know always are polite and say sorry) yell from the solid earthed mountain tops we are virgo hear us roar (enough to make the leo jealous) it could happen

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victoriasgirl1
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posted March 02, 2008 07:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just for the record, I love Virgos. My dad and my SO are both Virgos. Nit picky at times but also they're the first ones there when it's time to pick up the pieces. I'm glad for such dependable and reliable men in my life. Just my two cents.

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mars446
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posted March 02, 2008 08:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well...what that Virgo did was quite unfair, telling that your fears are annoying, and yet reacted in that manner when you found that his fears were unfounded.

Virgos drive the people they know to do better. However, libra moons can be too logical, moody, and annoying. Having a cancer rising doesn't make it any better- hence that person's reaction.

Tell that virgo that what he did was unfair and wrong...you tell him that you told him his fears were unfounded to show him that what he told you hurts. It'll take a while for the virgo to admit he's wrong, or maybe won't say it at all...but will try to compensate by doing something nice for you.

I'm a virgo, leo moon, pisces rising btw...

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stillatlarge
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posted March 02, 2008 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The man I work for is a Virgo sun and he's impossible. That sounds just like him. I can't understand though, why almost every guy I've ever been attracted to has either Virgo ascendant, or like me, mercury in Virgo. I attract them like lint on a black sweater.

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artemisss
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posted March 02, 2008 09:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whats your moon babefox? is it in pisces?

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babeefoxx
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posted March 02, 2008 10:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Cancer moon, and Libra ascendant.

I too love Virgos, this is the first time he's ever lashed out at me and I feel very broken and confused. He can never see from my point of view.

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I love my Virgo <3

S: Aries
ASC: Libra
M: Cancer
V: Taurus
M: Gemini

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babeefoxx
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posted March 02, 2008 10:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Cancer moon, and Libra ascendant.

I too love Virgos, this is the first time he's ever lashed out at me and I feel very broken and confused. He can never see from my point of view.

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I love my Virgo <3

S: Aries
ASC: Libra
M: Cancer
V: Taurus
M: Gemini

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babeefoxx
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posted March 02, 2008 11:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Cancer moon, and Libra ascendant.
{sorry for the triple post!)

I too love Virgos, this is the first time he's ever lashed out at me and I feel very broken and confused. He can never see from my point of view. Usually we're pretty same-minded, and sometimes I feel more anal, fussy and clean than he'll ever be. I'm incredibly organized in all of the aspects of my life, except emotion. He probably resents me for it and thinks of me as immature.

Then again, at times I get annoyed of his lack-of. It really is falling apart here.

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I love my Virgo <3

S: Aries
ASC: Libra
M: Cancer
V: Taurus
M: Gemini

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artemisss
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posted March 02, 2008 11:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The reason I asked if your moon was in Pisces (a water sign) was because moon-in water signs tend to be more sensitive to such comments, and more inclined to such fears. (as a moon in pisces, I know personally)Try to communicate it with him, in a "pragmatic" sort of way. Something he might understand. Even though, we shouldnt always have to explain ourselves to our loved ones, sometimes...we just have to..because they dont "get it" Virgos are very "dilligent" individuals, they tend to be very organized, and disciplined, so, heavy feelings might not only overwhelm him, but turn him off. I hope he learns to understand you and you guys can get through it.

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