posted March 12, 2008 07:44 AM              

any views would be interesting.
thanks.

posted March 12, 2008 10:35 AM            

Looking at the chart...and off the top of my head, I would say an empty 10th House would mitigate against a career in the public eye.

There are some who cannot escape the public eye no matter how hard they try to hide.

The 12th House is loaded with all that Taurus and I doubt he would be at all comfortable having the spotlight constantly shined on him.

posted March 12, 2008 11:43 AM            

Most (or all) presidents will have Pluto or Saturn in either the 1st House, 9th House, 10th or 11th house. Some combination of that.

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posted March 12, 2008 12:58 PM            

12th House

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posted March 12, 2008 01:44 PM            

Evolutionary Astrologer Maurice Fernandez focuses Neptune/12th/Pisces as career stuff as he believes that it has something to do with one's calling.

President Bush has nothing in his 10th house and he has Sun and Saturn in 12th. his lack of 10th house planets and his strong 12th house emphasis didn't keep him from being president.
www.mauricefernandez.com/12thhouseandcareerTMA07.pdf

Also in her THE NODEBOOK, Zipporah Dobyns wrote that world figures tend to have strong contacts to the nodes of Jupiter and beyond.

posted March 12, 2008 02:08 PM            

G.W. Bush has Pluto in the 1st house which was one of the placements I mentioned. Also, G.W. Bush has all kinds of luck in his chart. I wish I could remember this Vedic Astrologer's name, he's very famous. When I remember his name, I'll let you know it, but he mentioned that G.W. Bush had all of his planets on one side of his Nodal Axis and it suggests some kind of great luck or safety. So far, he has avoided Tecumseh's curse and impeachment, etc.

I also remember Bush having a ptolemaic Jupiter-Uranus aspect suggesting that he's even more surprisingly lucky.

posted March 12, 2008 02:43 PM            

I wonder if the Vedic Astrology was pointing out that he has Gaja Kesari Yoga with his Moon conjunct Jupiter....with it being a very close conjunction...a powerful yoga

I also wonder if he was talking Kal Surpa yoga when mentioned all his planet on one side of the node.

I wrote about him in regards to 2004 Election....I was talking a little about Magi Astrology.

According to Magi Astrology:
Bush has Sun,Uranus,and Pluto in planetary synchronization
in declinations, and that is supposed to be good for both
politics,popularity,power,and big business. Sun parallel Uranus and
Sun parallel Pluto are enhancement aspects. He also has Jupiter trine
Uranus which can means expansive popularity and success at politics,
and its part of a triple conjunction trine for his Uranus is trine a
stellium of Moon,Jupiter,and Chiron. Moon conjunct Jupiter can mean
domestic success, and that could apply to success in his own country.
Now add Jupiter and Chiron, and you have fabulous public image too.
Add Uranus to the mix, you get success in politics due to fabulous
image in domestic area. Bush has 2 Jupiter-Chiron aspects. He has
Jupiter conjunct Chiron and Jupiter parallel Chiron, and that's a
planetary eclipse. That would add to the fabulous public image that
could greatly help him in politics.

posted March 12, 2008 04:09 PM            

That wasn't the astrologer but I think it was "Kal Surpa Yoga". I'm not familiar enough with Vedic Astrology, but he was definitely talking about all the planets being on one side of the node.

I have to read your group posting at another time, I'm looking forward to it.

Geocosmic Valentine

posted March 12, 2008 05:20 PM              

heres a chart of a famous taurus leader its very familiar to his.

the reason i think the person in the OP could be president is because his thoughts and ideas are so intensely passionate, and different from the norm. i think he could change the world, he cares about people a lot although at the same time i think he "hates" them. i only think he feels that way because he feels so intensely. hes very intelligent, and his mind will blow you away when you first meet him.

posted March 12, 2008 05:44 PM            

12th house is also house associated with selfless service.....well....I don't see that in Bush and Saddam

I remember being taught in Transformational Astrology class that 12th house is the house of Serve or Suffer

12th house/6th house is the health and service axis

12th house is associated with institutions of all kinds