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pOllierOller
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posted March 13, 2008 11:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so, this is a reading that was done for me in another forum, but it doesn't really make any sense to my wondering mind. there seems to be a lot of contradictory aspects between the two of us, which leaves me flabbergasted, and the negaives and positives are almost exact in number. can anyone please help me decipher this encryptic mass of ups and downs? it would be sososo appreciated. you really have no idea! sigh.... i am Queen and he is King. i hope there are those that can AND WILL use their wonderful powers of compassion and understanding to ease my confusion. i know it's a lot to read. thanks and much love.

King's Sun square queen's Sun:
Your basic life energies are naturally at odds with each other. Therefore, you tend to compete and
fall into patterns of putting each other down, rather than supporting each other. To have a healthy
relationship, you both are forced to stretch your acceptance of the differences in each other.

King's Moon conjunct queen's Moon:

Your emotional styles are compatible, allowing you both to feel you can be yourselves. Even the
way you experience "down time" is in harmony, so you can rejuvenate in each other's presence.
You speak the same emotional language and likely feel that you "get" each other at a deep level.

King's Mercury trine queen's Mercury:

It is easy to understand each other, as your minds work in similar styles. Making decisions together
is supported, and when communication difficulties do arise, they are readily resolved when there is
the intention to do so.

King's Jupiter opposition queen's Jupiter:

Since what each of you finds rewarding is at odds, you need to create enough space in your
relationship for both of you to take part in the separate activities that you each find rewarding.
There could be disagreements over each other's political, religious, or philosophical beliefs.

King's Ascendant sextile queen's Ascendant:

Your approaches to life are in harmony with each other, making it enjoyable and easy to spend
time together. You both feel supported in your outlook on life.

queen's Sun conjunct King's Chiron:

It is likely that you will come into each other's lives at a time when you are both recovering from a
wounding experience. Your relationship heals these wounds for each other. After this initial healing,
you may find a common interest in alternative healing and spiritual paths.

queen's Sun trine King's Ascendant:

You enjoy and support each other's outlook on life, making it enjoyable to spend time together.
Your personalities mix well.

queen's Sun sextile King's North Node:

You naturally support each other's path toward soul growth. This happens without effort. You are
able to help each other glean valuable lessons from your personal histories, freeing you from having
to repeat the past.

queen's Sun square King's Mercury:

Communication difficulties arise because of the angular nature of your perspective on issues. You
see things differently and must allow for this if the relationship is to flourish. Otherwise, petty
arguments could arise over how things are said to each other.

queen's Moon conjunct King's Mars:

This is a hot, passionate, and volatile combination. queen can feel picked on and badgered by
King. King can have angry eruptions over queen's emotional responses. If you can handle the heat,
passion and intensity are assured.

queen's Moon trine King's Neptune:

An empathic rapport between the two of you is likely. King helps queen rise above petty issues,
and queen helps King stay in touch with personal feelings.

King's Moon sextile queen's Mercury:

Communication over personal issues is favored. You can always depend on each other for
understanding when needed, and this brings clarity into your lives.

queen's Moon opposition King's Pluto:

queen can feel threatened, unsafe, and powerless to withstand King's will. A healthy relationship
can develop only if King can remain conscious of the potential misuse of this power of intimidation.
Otherwise, the potential for unhealthy psychological patterns to develop between the two of you is
strong.

queen's Moon square King's Venus:

Emotional issues are quite tricky to resolve. When one of you expresses emotional needs, the other
person's feelings get hurt. Or you get your feelings hurt when the other person is simply having a
bad day. It is hard not to take the other person's emotional issues personally, but that is exactly
what can improve your relationship.

queen's Moon square King's Ascendant:

Misunderstandings often arise when queen's emotional needs are expressed in a way that irritates
King. Your relationship benefits from spending a little time apart in the daily schedule to avoid
getting on each other's nerves.

King's Moon square queen's North Node:

Your relationship could be characterized as "one step forward, two steps back," as you
periodically pull each other into past emotional patterns, and can feel threatened by each other's
growth.

queen's Mercury opposition King's Uranus:

A tension exists in your communications with each other. King wants queen to change the way
queen thinks about something in a way that is inconceivable to queen. queen can feel King is a
disruptive, unruly influence, and King can view queen as narrow-minded and stuck in conventional
thinking.

queen's Mercury opposition King's Neptune:

Your communication with each other can become clouded by confusion, mostly over what was not
said. Fact and fantasy blur. It may not be clear what was said and not said, what is true or not true;
these types of issues cause the confusion. Absolute honesty is required to avoid these pitfalls.

queen's Mercury square King's Jupiter:

Your learning styles are different enough that it makes it difficult to carry out intellectual projects
together without getting exasperated with each other. King is interested in growth that doesn't
interest queen. queen can seem narrow-minded and picky to King. Give space for your different
learning styles and interests to avoid conflict.

King's Mercury square queen's Ascendant:

Misunderstandings are not uncommon with this aspect, as you both tend to misinterpret each
other's attempts at communication. Avoid this potential for misunderstanding by double-checking
important communications with each other.

queen's Venus conjunct King's Chiron:

Your values, appreciation for beauty, and capacity to receive love are fertile ground for healing for
King. The activities that you enjoy together naturally lead to soul growth for both of you. You can
be drawn to the arts and creative expression as a method for healing.

King's Venus trine queen's Mars:

There is very favorable magnetic flow between the two of you that could best be described as
delightful. This creates an energetic spark that is well received by both of you. You are skilled at
keeping this spark of magnetism alive long into your relationship.

King's Venus trine queen's Jupiter:

The friendship between the two of you flows naturally and you encourage movement toward
refinement in each other's life. The arts, culture, philosophy, and socializing together are all favored.

King's Venus trine queen's Saturn:

This aspect adds stability to your relationship because you have the patience and commitment it
takes to work through the rough spots. You complement each other's lives, as King brings out
queen's personal side, and queen helps King keeps it together in the world.

King's Venus sextile queen's Uranus:

Your relationship will never be in danger of stagnating because you constantly find innovative ways
to explore life together. You are attracted to each other's uniqueness and allow each other
considerable freedom in the relationship.

King's Venus sextile queen's Ascendant:

This is a highly magnetic and sweet combination. King is very attracted to queen's looks and style.
It is easy to love one another, and interests in the arts, entertainment, and culture are favored.

queen's Venus opposition King's Saturn:

This aspect dampens the natural attraction and magnetism of the relationship. It is hard to avoid
judging one another. queen sees King as no fun, too harsh, and demanding, while King judges
queen's values as superficial, indulgent, and undisciplined.

queen's Venus opposition King's Uranus:

King feels constrained by queen's values and attitudes about relationships. queen's security is
threatened by King's need for freedom. There can be sexual magnetism that comes from the
fascination of something different, but your tastes being so different would be a test.

King's Venus opposition queen's North Node:

The past-life karma you bring into this life is that of King having been a female lover for queen in a
previous life. It is easy to love one another, but soul memories stir feelings that don't make sense in
this life. Will you promote soul growth for each other in this life, or will you cling to memories and
yearnings for how things were?

queen's Venus square King's Jupiter:

It is not always easy to find ways to socialize together. What one of you considers a
growth-oriented activity, the other might not value at all. When you do get together, there is the risk
of encouraging each other's excessive behavior.

queen's Mars trine King's Ascendant:

Your energies flow well together, making it easy to work or play together. You rarely trigger each
other's defenses, allowing you feel safe with each other. Knowing you can count on each other's
support in any conflict gives you courage.

queen's Mars sextile King's Jupiter:

You bring out a confident and positive attitude in each other, allowing you to work and play well
together. You also travel well together and encourage each other to take part in the opportunities
life has to offer.

King's Mars square queen's North Node:

King's choices of activities are often off track for the path of soul growth for queen. You would be
advised to allow space in your relationship for your separate interests.

King's Jupiter trine queen's Uranus:

This motivates the two of you to look for growth beyond your relationship together. You support
each other's independent views and opinions, encouraging each other to constantly expand on your
experiences and learn from life. Travel, education, and spiritual growth are all favored.

King's Jupiter trine queen's Ascendant:

This aspect is favorable for most relationships as the two of you share common philosophical,
political, and religious beliefs, as well as cultural interests. It simply feels uplifting to be in each
other's company.

King's Jupiter trine queen's North Node:

You provide strong support for each other's spiritual growth and can actively pursue spiritual
studies together. Travel together can be related to your spiritual quest, and it will not be difficult to
find a path that is growth-oriented for both of you.

King's Jupiter opposition queen's Saturn:

Your sense of timing is not likely to be in synch with each other; when one of you wants to expand,
the other wants to hold back. You may have many conflicting views about politics, religion,
business ethics, and the like, making it difficult to support each other's plans.

King's Jupiter square queen's Neptune:

You encourage each other into blind spots and plans based on false optimism. With this aspect, it
is always best to think things all the way through before heading off on a fantasy. You can
encourage indulgent behavior in each other, and this could be trouble if either of you has problems
with escapism or addictions.

queen's Jupiter square King's Uranus:

Although this combination promotes a great deal of excitement, you too easily encourage each
other into rash and even reckless behavior. There is an unfounded feeling of luck that encourages
risk taking that can be disastrous. Arguments can flair up over political and religious issues that you
are not likely to see eye to eye on.

King's Saturn conjunct queen's Neptune:

The best of this combination is when King grounds queen's imagination and helps find ways of
manifesting this in the world. It is also favorable when queen inspires King to open to a reality
beyond worldly responsibilities. The low road is when King doubts and disapproves of queen's
imagination, or when queen erodes King's strength to carry out responsibilities through guilt or fear.

queen's Saturn trine King's Ascendant:

This is a stabilizing aspect for all relationships. queen is patient with King and can be a source of
guidance without being heavy-handed. King helps queen stay focused on manifesting ambitions and
goals. This combination is excellent for being able to work through the difficult times together on
any type of commitment.

King's Saturn sextile queen's Pluto:

You give each other strength and support for tackling large projects, and the two of you together
are very effective when dealing with administrative authority. You can count on each other during
crunch time, when your back is against the wall.

queen's Saturn square King's Uranus:

There is tension from queen wanting to maintain the status quo and King wanting change. queen
feels King is a loose cannon and disruptive to what is going on. King becomes frustrated by
queen's narrow thinking.

queen's Saturn square King's Neptune:

You tend to feed each other's doubts and fears, eroding each other's strength. When a cycle of
doubt comes over the two of you, it feeds on itself, and soon everything can look bad. This misuse
of the imagination needs to be addressed as if it were a test. Discipline needs to be developed to
block these negative wanderings of the imagination.

King's Uranus conjunct queen's Neptune:

There is a creative flow between King's intuition and queen's ability to image. This sets up a
favorable flow of spiritual guidance that comes to the two of you spontaneously through
coincidences and sudden knowing.

queen's Neptune opposition King's Chiron:

You don't have faith in each other's path of health and healing. Since you don't really understand
each other in these matters, any advice you give tends to confuse rather than help. Your lack of
faith in each other translates as doubt and worry--all disempowering images to send to each other.
Learn how to send angels instead of worried images to each other--it does more good.

King's Pluto square queen's North Node:

A karmic pattern of mistrust must be faced to avoid the undermining influence of this aspect. If
issues of mistrust exist, put them on the table and clear the issues before proceeding. Overcome the
tendency to let these issues putrefy beneath the surface, which can breed all types of ill feelings.

queen's Pluto trine King's Chiron:

Powerful healing energy flows between the two of you, particularly if you are blessed with an
intimate relationship, as this would bring sexual healing. You draw hidden strength just from being
in each other's presence, and together you are unknowingly a powerful healing force in other
people's lives.

King's Ascendant opposition queen's North Node:

There is something hauntingly familiar about each other, and it is easy to get to know one another
because of this. The path of least resistance is to get caught up in the presentation and looks of the
relationship, while the path of growth is to cultivate substance.

~pollie <3

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blue moon
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posted March 13, 2008 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The simple answer is that humans are often contradictory.

What you have there is a list of aspects that need to be blended together into a whole picture that makes sense.

So, for example, just taking a couple of those aspects:-

You enjoy each other's company (SU TRI ASC) but you tend to have different perspectives and this can lead to disagreements (SU SQ ME).

A mix of positive and negative synastry is a reflection of a relationship which works easily on some levels, but in other ways takes more effort. That sounds fairly standard to me.

So in the example above you have two people who don't have to think much about whether or not they want to spend time together, but when they do, they might have to make an effort to communicate in a way that avoids unnecessary arguments.


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amowls
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posted March 13, 2008 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are Synastry aspects, not Composite. I would look at the Composite chart to see what the overall outcome of the relationship would be if you're confused about what the Synastry aspects mean.

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Nightjar
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posted March 13, 2008 02:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There isn't much point in looking at synastry/composite charts until you've learned the basics of chart/aspect interpretation. You'll notice that there are lots of contradictory aspects in birth charts too.
Cook book astrology won't give you much insight unless you know how to combine different aspects and planetary placements. Also, relationship astrology (just like natal) isn't just about aspects. You should start by comparing two natal charts and then look at the house placements. The problem with newbies who start their astrology hobby by trying to straight away interpret relationship charts is that they're trying to make things waaaaaay too simple and jump to conclusions.
Master the basics first

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pOllierOller
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posted March 16, 2008 09:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, i did end up doing a composite, and also found out that it's just the dynamic of the two energies making an entirely different energy together. is that true? also, that it's more insightful to match the personal charts with that of the composite, and find out how that dynamic affects each individual, because it can be different for both parties.

nightjar~ thank you for your advice, but the reason i come in here is to learn more. i have been trying to understand the deeper qualities within astrology, but i really have no idea where to go to for more info; that's why i come to you. i try different sights: astro.com for chart info, cafeastrology for ways to look at astrology, astrologyweekly for interpretations, and there are a few more, but that's all i have to work off of. if you have any recommendations for books, or the like, i would appreciate it. i have a couple, but they are super general. also, what about the house placements should i be looking at? what about house overlays is important? i've been doing those as well. it's just that aspects are so complicated, and i need more info on them.

btw, this relationship is very important to me, and i want to research as much as i can on how the two of us are compatible.

anyway, thanks (=

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pOllierOller
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posted March 16, 2008 11:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Composite aspects for King and Queen:

SUN CO MOO
SUN CO MER
SUN TR JUP
SUN BQ URA
SUN TR NEP
SUN OP PLU
SUN TR ASC
SUN OP MID

MOO CO MER
MOO TR JUP
MOO OP SAT
MOO TR NEP
MOO OP PLU
MOO TR ASC

MER TR JUP
MER OP SAT
MER TR NEP
MER OP PLU
MER SSE CHI
MER TR ASC
MER OP MID

VEN QX SAT
VEN TR URA
VEN SQ ASC

MAR BQ JUP
MAR OP SAT
MAR BQ NEP
MAR TR LIL
MAR BQ ASC

JUP CO NEP
JUP SE PLU
JUP CO ASC
JUP SE MID

SAT SSE URA
SAT SE LIL

URA OP TN
URA OP CHI
URA SQ LIL
URA SSQ MID

NEP SE PLU
NEP QX CHI
NEP CO ASC
NEP SE MID

PLU QX CHI
PLU SE ASC
PLU CO MID

CHI QX ASC

ASC CAP
IC ARIES
DES CAN
MID LIB

House placements:
SUN/ARI/4TH HOUSE
MOO/TAU/4TH HOUSE
MER/TAU/4TH HOUSE
VEN/ARI/3RD HOUSE
MAR/TAU/4TH HOUSE
JUP/CAP/12TH & 6TH HOUSE
SAT/SCO/10TH HOUSE
URA/SAG/12TH HOUSE
NEP/CAP/12TH HOUSE
PLU/SCO/10TH HOUSE
TN/GEM/5TH HOUSE
CHI/GEM/5TH HOUSE
LIL/VIR/8TH HOUSE


i would LOVE view points from those of you who may spot anything interesting!

thanks again,
pollie

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pOllierOller
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posted March 31, 2008 08:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

well, this is the Composite Chart. anyone see anything super interesting??? the composite sun is conjunct the composite IC by one orb (i'm pretty sure) what does that mean??? yay to you if you help help help!

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