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Mama Mia
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posted March 20, 2008 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are they called Sextile or Quincux???

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blue moon
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posted March 20, 2008 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sextile 60*

Quincunx is 150*.

Semi-Sextile 30*.

edit: I confess I skim read that and didn't pick up on the mix-up between sextile and semi-sextile. Maybe he won't have noticed when you told him, either.

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posted March 20, 2008 10:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, I think you`Re referring to semisextiles, like Venus in 6° Capricorn and Mars in 5° Sagittarius would be.

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posted March 20, 2008 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Darkdreamer has it right.

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Mama Mia
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posted March 20, 2008 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, here it is I had a guy ask me what do I think about neighboring signs like Virgo and Leo, bc his parents are this. He did not give any degrees or anything..I told him that they were sextile..

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Got Gemini?
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posted March 20, 2008 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought sextile signs were the second sign in either direction of a sign? Like my Gemini sun sextiles Aries and Leo. Of course I'm not using orbs in my example.

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posted March 20, 2008 11:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sextile:

Aries: Aquarius and Gemini
Taurus: Pisces and Cancer
Gemini: Aries and Leo
and so on.

semisextile:

Aries: Pisces and Taurus
Taurus: Aries and Gemini
Gemini: Taurus and Cancer

Sextiles connect compatible elements like Fire and Air, or Water and Earth.

Semisextile connect imcompatible elements, for ex.: Fire: Water and Earth

DD

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blue moon
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posted March 20, 2008 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

http://www.astrology.com/aboutastrology/interpreting/aspectsandorbs

Semi-sextile

We see a semi-sextile in a chart when two planets are 30 degrees from each other. This is one of a number of minor Aspects and, as a result, an orb of influence of only one to three degrees is acceptable.

With the thirty degree separation between the planets in this formation (they are usually but one Sign apart), the semi-sextile is half of a sextile. Even so, this Aspect is not quite as harmonious in tone as a sextile. Further, there tends to be a fated quality to this Aspect.

Semi-sextiles tend to create minor tension. It's not the big message or jarring jolt that's brought forth by an opposition or a square. Rather, there is a niggling sense of something going on underneath the surface which can't quite be placed. Unease is the result, and a sense that something should be done (or that if it were done, all would be better).

This Aspect also has a karmic tie. When two planets are semi-sextiling each other, we need to know that there is a lesson (albeit a small one) to be dealt with and effectively overcome. This lesson may well come to us from our past. Lastly, with this Aspect, there is always that karmic connection. Something is out there, and while we're not quite sure what it is, we just can't seem to break away from it. Is this yet another lesson from the semi-sextile?


Aries-Pisces Gemini-Cancer
Virgo-Libra Sagittarius-Capricorn
Aries-Taurus Cancer-Leo
Libra-Scorpio Capricorn-Aquarius
Taurus-Gemini Leo-Virgo
Scorpio-Sagittarius Aquarius-Pisces

Quincunx

A quincunx is present in a chart when two planets are 150 degrees from each other. Since this is one of the minor Aspects (there are nearly ten of them), an orb of influence of only one to three degrees is considered acceptable. This Aspect is also referred to as the inconjunct.

The planets involved in a quincunx do not share the same quality or element, as is the case with squares and trines. Rather, these are two planets with very little in common, and their celestial meeting can be uneasy as a result.

This Aspect, above all, demands that adjustments be made. Things will appear muted or unclear and one must resolve to gain some focus on the matters at hand. A reorganization of priorities, as well as a change in the way things are done, is wanting. A change in attitude, outlook and perspective can also be indicated. The individual must take a further cue from the planets and Houses involved in this Aspect to understand its energy fully.

Quincunxes often influence health and financial matters. It is also believed that this Aspect has karmic lessons to teach us. Along those lines, an extension of the quincunx is the Yod, also referred to as the 'Finger of God.' In this little-known configuration, considered the most fated in Astrology, two planets which are sextiling (a sixty-degree Aspect) each other are in communion with a third planet which rests opposite the midpoint of the sextile. These three planets would then form the letter 'Y' in the heavens (draw it for yourself and you'll see). The third planet, effectively at the bottom of the 'Y' figure, is the trigger point of the Yod. This very fated configuration adds great emphasis to the quincunx and speaks to significant lessons and issues to be overcome. Further, whenever a planet is transiting through the midpoint of the sextile segment of the Yod, the entire configuration is essentially on red alert. The burden is upon us to listen closely at this time, and to learn.


Aries-Virgo Taurus-Sagittarius
Cancer-Sagittarius Leo-Pisces
Aries-Scorpio Gemini-Scorpio
Cancer-Aquarius Pisces-Libra
Taurus-Libra Gemini-Capricorn
Leo-Capricorn Virgo-Aquarius

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posted March 20, 2008 11:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great article, Blue Moon.

It makes sense that the quinkunx as well as the semisextile have a slightly karmic overtone.
The quinkunx connects signs which are in a 6 / 8 relationship after all. And the 8th house / sign is said to be a heavily karmic house, isn`t it?

Also, in a semisextile one planet is in the 12th house / sign of the other, another highly karmic connection.
Hmm, maybe the square would also have some karmic overtones, since a square means that one planet is in the 4th house / sign of the other, and some people believe that the 4th house also has to do with karmic business.

It would be interesting to learn if two people experience the same aspect differently.
What I mean is, let`s say:

My Venus is on 6° CApricorn and someone elses Venus is on 6° Taurus.
That would be a trine, obviously.
But person`s 2`s Venus would fall into the 5th house (from my Venus of course), while mine would be in his 9th house.
I wonder if I might experience more of the romantic, creative side of the trine and the other person would experience a rather philosophical connection to me, which helps broaden his or her horizon, but isn`t necessarily as personal as the other way round.

DD

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Got Gemini?
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posted March 20, 2008 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even though my sun sextiles Aries, I usually clash with Aries dudes. I guess its my libra moon that dislikes arrogant people. However, I get along with almost every female Aries I have ever encountered.

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posted March 20, 2008 12:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, it`s those Aries-types that always break my heart.

And there should be neverending bliss only applying Sun-sign-astrology, since I am a Sagittarius-Sun.
But my Pluto is in Libra and my Saturn is in Cancer, and Chiron is in Aries itself, and even though I am drawn to them like a moth to the flame, I always end up getting burned. That goes even for men having their ASC or Moon in Aries.

Funnily my best friend has her Moon in Aries, too, and we get along great. Of course she has got a Virgo Sun and a STellium in LIbra, which balances the Aries-qualities A LOT. Besides her Aries Moon is part of a grand trine with Neptune and Saturn.

The astrology of relationships is more than just comparing the Sun-signs.
Even persons with the same Sun-sign can be quite differently, if they have different aspect to Sun.

Let`s say:
Two persons have a Gemini Sun

But P1:
- Sun conjunct Saturn and square Pluto
- Sun--ruler Mercury in Cancer

While P2:
- Sun conjunct Jupiter and trine Uranus
- Sunruler MErcury in Gemini

I think, even though both persons would feel the need to communicate with other people (that is typical Gemini, isn`t it), Person 1 would be much more withdrawn, brooding, serious and very easily hurt, maybe being even manipulative and controlling, whereas Person 2 would appear more Gemini-like: outgoing, charming, with a great, maybe a bit weird sense of humour.

Definitely different.

DD

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jane
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posted March 21, 2008 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like me some karmic lovin'.

I'm a Sag and my relationships have been with guys who have their sun in a sign that semi-sextiles, quincunx, or squares mine.

Many moons ago, I briefly went out with a Libra. A nice sextile, but his Sun fell in my 12th house.

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Lara
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posted March 21, 2008 04:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hear ya DarkDreamer... I have been burnt by the Aries scorching flame ever since l was a child.
sigh

I recently made a promise to myself never to go near an Aries again!

It's tough. I have moon, venus, saturn, n node and chiron in Aries.

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Dani California
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posted March 21, 2008 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dani California     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got Gemini? Yep, I'm the same, I find Aries men a bit difficult, but have got along with Aries females, one of my close friends is an Aries.

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posted March 21, 2008 09:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Definattely you are talking about semi sextile aspect - me and my bf are one of the so called " Semi sextiled couple" since im a Virgo and he´s a Libra,so our signs are neighbours of each other.

I can easily identify with the saying that this is a karmic conection as well as the kikunkx.

Some time ago there was a thread here about the semi sextile relationships and suprisingly,there are many happy couples like this sharing their love for many many years!

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blue moon
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posted March 22, 2008 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Given that Mercury can only be one sign either side of the Sun, and Venus two sides either side of the sun, chances are a semi-sextile couple are going to have placements in common, and possibly some powerful conjunctions.

Example:

Me -> Sun Gemini; Mercury, Venus, Saturn in Taurus

my Dad -> Sun Taurus; Mercury, Venus in Gemini; Saturn, Uranus, Jupiter in Taurus

I won't bore you with the list of conjunctions - it's long!

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posted March 22, 2008 07:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regarding semisextile relationships:

To me there are several reasons why those relationships can work.

1. the karmic connection through the semisextile itself

2. the possibility of conjunctions between personal planets like Blue Moon pointed out

3. progressed synastry


Regarding Aries:
I once told myself to stay away from Aries, but then it turned out that those men all had some other personal planets in Aries. I am doomed when it comes to Aries, I guess.

DD

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