posted March 21, 2008 10:01 PM            

Virgo is generally one of the two most realistic signs (the other being Capricorn), but Virgos do tend to be idealistic in close relationships, and this is even more true for people with Virgo on the Ascendant (Pisces on the Dsc). Other than that, the Fire signs and the sign of Pisces tend to be naive, and the masculine signs (fire and air) are all idealistic, if not naive. Hard aspects from Jupiter or Neptune can also suggest naivete. Libra is known for wearing rose-colored glasses, spinning everything they see and hear, to find the good. This can be a great gift, or a great curse. When Libras are unhappy, its just the opposite; they pick up on everything that is the least bit inharmonious, and they will nit-pick as carefully as any Virgo. I dont know about Gemini being naive, but, it is an early sign, with inherently less experience than the later signs. Of course, all this is subject to the aspects; strong outer planetary contacts, especially well-handled, suggest more complexity, but, speaking generally, Gemini is only the third sign, and corresponds to a childhood state (the first 5 signs are all somewhat childlike in their focus and expression). Mostly, I think, what you describe sounds like its connected to the Libra Moon. If that Moon is in your 2nd house, it can be indicative of a tendency to, not only see only the good, but, to hold on to relationships long after they have become unmanageable. The 2nd house is naturally connected to Taurus, and this is a sign that holds on to things and often takes pride in relationships too far. Frequently, they cannot admit to themselves that a relationship has "failed", because they see it as a negative reflection on themselves. Hope that helps. Good luck with everything. It takes time, and pain, to learn these lessons. Please, try not to be too hard on yourself. We all have our own lessons, our own weaknesses and blindspots, so, while it may seem like so many people are more aware or equipped than you in one area, dont forget that you are more aware and equipped than most in other areas. The best you can do is learn whatever lesson the universe has for you now, without beating yourself up for not knowing everything already.

Blessings,

posted March 22, 2008 04:20 AM            

The sextile is tight on my chart. I go in for positive thinking, making the best of it, and all that jazz. But my Moon is Trine Saturn, so I wouldn't say I was naive. Oh, and I also have Moon CNJ Pluto, like you ~ Moon in Libra.

You've got a Square here ~ that's Jupiter being overblown. Signs ~ Libra the people-pleaser, and caring Cancer.

Sometimes events in life come along and prove the pessimists right. This can be crushing. But the miserable moaners don't tend to be around when hope was needed to get everyone through, whatever the outcome. They are just protecting themselves from the sting of finding out the worst outcome has come to pass.

p.s

posted March 22, 2008 01:25 PM            

I usually discount aspects that are greater than 5 degrees. However, when 2 planets are together (as in a conjunction), if these planets are harmonious (as opposed to antagonistic like Saturn and Jupiter conjunction) their power is greater, practically doubled, so when their conjunction is aspecting another planet, the orb of influence is also greater. Makes sense? Therefore in your case, that 9 degree orb opposition is felt, and is expressed as naivety, gullibility.

posted March 23, 2008 05:23 PM            

On the bright side, GotGemini, your pluto/moon conjunction does give you some depth of insight regarding emotional situations, like often you can just feel certain inner truths about things. When jupiter is involved it's hard to stop things from being blown out of proportion, though.

As for the mercury/neptune opposition that others have mentioned, I don't think this would actually be that significant in your chart because the orb is too big. I prefer to use aspects under 5 degrees apart when it comes to major personality traits, and an aspect 9 degrees apart seems like a bit of a stretch for me. Tight aspects are like a personal theme song that you have blasting out load on your stereo, loose aspects are like the dim sounds of traffic on the road a mile away. You just don't hear it that often. Rather, I'd think of the condition of your moon as the main explanation of your naiveity (both jupiter & neptune aspect your moon within 5 degrees), and the neptune oppostition as a distant backround influence that adds to it.

posted March 23, 2008 06:12 PM            

Can you elaborate? I think I know what you mean but I need a little clarity. And by the way, I fit your "application" desription quite well wink wink ;-)

posted March 24, 2008 08:06 PM            

http://www.evolvingdoor.ca/glossary/glossary_bc.htm

The more the person can learn to face and resolve the conflict of the opposition, the more they will be able to use the talents and natural abilities in the Cradle in ways that are healthy, constructive and healing. On the other hand, the avoidance of problems can generate some pretty impressive creative ability, in the broadest sense of the word - not just artistic but any innovative, original or imaginative approach to the obstacles and challenges of life.

posted March 27, 2008 06:46 PM            

Just my hunch.

posted March 28, 2008 03:30 AM            

I don't believe that you have to have astrological indicators for being naive.

There are a lot of people in USA naive about race relations. I just don't see that having to do with astrological indicators. Maybe its the Mars in Gemini square Neptune in Virgo in the USA Chart.

I have Moon in Pisces square Neptune,and I am not naive. I am idealistic though

I have Moon square Saturn,and so that modifies...tend to be more realistic about things...even pessmistic.

posted March 28, 2008 03:41 AM              

ascendant in sagittarius, exact midpoint of venus and neptune (5 degree orb to midpoint, 10 from one another). neptune 12th house, venus 1st.

posted March 28, 2008 06:55 AM            

The cradle shape suggests the lesson is in the opposition holding the cradle together.

It's an astrological observation, not a personal one.

posted March 28, 2008 08:14 AM            

Those can indicate great idealism,inspiration,sensitivity,compassion

they don't have to manifest into being naive.

posted March 28, 2008 04:13 PM              

i think my pisces SN trips me up too. i used to have blind faith, thinking, if i believed in someone enough that meant they would be good. haha.

i'm really learning as i wisen up just how perfectly and beautifully reliable intuition is and that protecting myself is very important.