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Venus De Milo
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posted March 23, 2008 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just ended a very intense 1-month "relationship" with this person... it was amazing, because when I met him at the beginning of January, the moment I locked eyes with him, I felt instantly that something would happen with him.

He broke up with his girlfriend sometime between the end of January and Valentine's Day (I never asked for details), and we went out for our first date on Valentine's Day. The whole thing ended last week, a few days after his 29th birthday on March 13th.

Scarily interesting is... those of you that remember my rantings about the Pisces Psycho... this guy is not only a Scorpio Rising, just like the Pisces Psycho... but he's also a Virgo Moon... and get this... at the exact same degree of Virgo as the previous guy. They also both have Uranus conjunct their ASC. How weird is that?

Anyhow, I'm just curious about any insights you all may have by looking at his chart or our composite.

I am still very fond of him, but I know it isn't going to work and I'm trying really hard to preserve the friendship at this point and minimise any bitterness.


[charts removed due to incorrect year... lol]

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posted March 23, 2008 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quick look at the Composite:

Moon conj Ura in 1st - electric and new emotions
Ruler of 8th, merc conj sun in 5th/pisces - dreamy, lurrve (cf venus trine saturn)
Ruler of 7th, mars squ ura - short yet electric relationship, trine asc/pluto - a bit spicy
MC Leo conj Jupiter - maybe an expansive experience and a bit of heat/passion/entertainment. Also ruler or asc (sun) in 5th
Venus trine NN

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Venus De Milo
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posted March 23, 2008 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! I'm not that proficient at reading composites, and thanks for highlighting to me that I need to start looking at what aspects the rulers of each house are doing... very enlightening!

In synastry, we have some electric chemistry aspects and some really great communicative aspects:

His Mars sextile my Moon (1 orb)
His Moon trine my Mercury (1 orb)
His Venus conjunct my Sun/Mars (7/8 orb... yes, I know it's wide, but in my experience, it is very valid)
His Sun square my Venus/Neptune (4 orb)
My Venus conjunct his Neptune (1 orb)
His Mercury conjunct my DC (1 orb)

Regarding that last aspect, I have that with everyone born around 1978/79... so while I think I would be used to the feeling of Neptune hitting my Venus... for him it would be different, right?

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posted March 24, 2008 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well reading a composite in my understanding would be the same as reading a natal chart etc.

The sun/mars/venus conj despite being 7/8 deg apart would still hold IMHO because they are such a powerful combo. I can personally feel someone's venus/mars in the same sign as mine, but of course a wide conj would be stonger. Its that plus the venus-neptune thing happening that's the affect here. And yes, his neptune nudging your venus would have an impact, regardless of your own nudging your venus. He fits into your idealistic dreams of a man.

Hope that helps.

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Venus De Milo
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posted March 24, 2008 03:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, he really does in a lot of ways... I have Aries on my DC and this guy is almost a caricature of the alpha male, Aries type. He has an incredible physique and he's a professional MMA fighter.

However, despite the incredible attraction and friendship... I am so comfortable with this man, we can just hang out and laze around the house all day talking... or not talking... and it feels completely natural... but really, we mostly have these endless conversations and despite his thuggish image, he is really quite thoughtful and sensitive...

Anyhow... we are extremely sexually incompatible, but last weekend we had a fight due to his arrogance... and I'm not putting forth the effort to patch things up... because it was never going to work anyway. So it's better that it stays finished, even though it's hard and I sort of miss him

Thanks 23...

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Mama Mia
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posted March 24, 2008 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You just keep on with these Pisces men don't you..

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posted March 24, 2008 03:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh my! he has the same birthday (and year) as one of my best friends! this guy is gay though.. and has leo rising..

when i get some free time i will look too!

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Venus De Milo
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posted March 25, 2008 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mama Mia! I just don't know how to escape them!

*exasperated*

I purposely didn't ask this guy what his birthdate was until our third or fourth date and he was like March 13th and I was like, DOH!!!

Then I weasel his birth time out of him and I'm like, wtf??? He's pretty much the other Pisces guy's astro twin... which is really bizarre.

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posted March 25, 2008 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What Planets do you have in Pisces or perhaps water signs??? Cause something is attracting these Pisces..

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posted March 25, 2008 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no planets in Pisces at all, and Pisces is intercepted in my chart (6th house).

(actually, I only have my South Node in Pisces)

I also have no water planets, except for my Uranus singleton in Scorpio... URANUS of all planets! It makes me even more Aquarian-like.

Plus, I have Neptune conjunct Venus... argh.

It's all these factors that I think it is.

I did go through a Cancer phase for awhile. Literally every guy I met was a Cancer, but nothing ever got serious.

With Pisces, it always becomes some big emotional drama. I'm trying to contain the drama in this one, but the potential is big. Luckily it only lasted a month.

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posted March 28, 2008 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, it's back on.

Talk about chemistry in that other thread... I love the chemistry I have with this man, it's electric. I knew something big was going to happen with him the moment I laid eyes on him. The very moment.

He came over last night and stayed and today I keep smelling his pillow, it smells like him and I love it!

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posted March 28, 2008 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow! My wife's bday is 3-13-79! Her planets are different though. Anyways, glad to see your happy! Good luck with your new relationship.

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Virgo Asc & Mars
Gemini Sun
Libra Moon
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus

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posted March 28, 2008 10:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's great Venus!

I'm worried now after what 23 said - I have the same aspect you have with your man..... ""Ruler of 7th, mars squ ura - short yet electric relationship""

eek!

23, does this definitely mean a relationship wouldn't work, with this aspect pls?

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Venus De Milo
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posted March 28, 2008 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Gemini

Lara, don't worry, you can't take one aspect and say "well, that means this relationship won't last"... you really have to look at the whole chart. You could have a lot of other stabilizing influences that will counteract any funky Mars-Uranus, or any other "negative" aspect. So, don't worry. nothing is etched in stone.

Mars-Uranus aspects can also indicate that you keep each other on your toes, it's not all doom and gloom.

And if this person was only meant to come into your life for a short time, you should just enjoy them and relish the experience and let them on their way, cherishing whatever it was that you loved about them and what they brought into your life and taught you, right?

What's so bad about that?

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posted March 28, 2008 11:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yep Venus

I agree. Cool attitude

As long as l don't get electrocuted l don't care! lol
I'm good at getting back on the horse after l have fall off

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posted March 28, 2008 11:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ooohey, venus, congrats!!

every relationship has so many beautiful lessons in it.. even the ones that ended crappily. relating is great stuff.

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posted March 29, 2008 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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23, does this definitely mean a relationship wouldn't work, with this aspect pls?

I specifically mentioned that re Venus' relationship. It is would neither be fatal to yours or her relationship. Its about how you accomodate it.

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Venus De Milo
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posted March 31, 2008 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WHOA!!! (and a big fat L O freggin' L!!!)

I just found out that the Pisces' birthdate is actually... lol... in 1980, not 1979... hahahahaha!!!

So this changes everything.

Most startling is that... we have a double whammy Venus trine Moon

I am a little flabbergasted.

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Venus De Milo
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posted March 31, 2008 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heheh... here are the new charts:


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posted March 31, 2008 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And your chart please?


I think in the composite chart the conj between mars/ura points to a bit of electricity, esp in the 1st and esp in Sco. Mars is rules sco and ura exalted in sco. The very near miss of the asc in libra means that its a pleasant, beautiful relationship, charm is added by sun conj venus in the fourth, which gives it a very visceral and close feeling but an eccentric relationsip (aqu). Viscerality also added by moon conj IC. Also squ between sun/veus and ura adds a bit more to the friction. I'd say its too wide for a trine between pluto and sun/venus.
Pluto lurking the 12th - secret magnetism/unearthing of something in the closet or at least exploration?

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posted March 31, 2008 09:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG, VDM

is that spooky or what ??????
BTW i just remembered something Iqhunk had said. his wife for eg. was in love with prince willian and refused to be married to any other dude.after a lot of parental and emotional intervention she gave up and agreed to marry IQ. well they did fall crazily in love when they met. but heres the thing, IQ said he is the closest match to Prince william in India. they are both cancerians, Princes moon conj IQ's sun, they both lost their mothers at 15. and IQ almost missed out on being in the same school and college as the prince.all in all what IQs wife wanted was out of reach so her oversoul sent her the closest match, sans the billions of course

anyways he told another girl on this board, to forgive her soulmate, and if she did that either he would come back or she would find and be in love with someone else exactly like that.ofcourse he said if the forgiveness was genuine the relationship would be made in heaven.

but , i dont know , how has it been so far VDM. do u see it going on well ???

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posted April 01, 2008 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is my chart:


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23, I think that is very insightful! Honestly... I think I'm falling pretty hard for him. Ever since things got back on track with him, we are closer than ever. What I really love about him is how affectionate he is. If I snuggle up to him, he's the type that will kiss my eyelids and my forehead and stroke my hair and he ALWAYS wants to snuggle and cuddle.

Any time my skin touches his, it's electric!

I feel drunk on all the affection. Now that I know we have the trine/sextile double whammy, I'm like... aaaaahhaaaaaa.

Venus De India, haha... did you catch my edit??? IT WAS THE WRONG YEAR!!! LOL!! All that freaking out because I thought he was my exe's astro twin... it turns out they are very similar, but at least it's not a Virgo Moon at the same degree. That scared me! Instead he has an Aqua moon that is sextile my Venus and Neptune. Hehehe. My Moon is trine his Venus and Chiron.

But that is very weird about Prince William and IQ hunk's wife.. I guess it is still very valid as my ex and R______ are still very similar astrologically...

They are both Pisces with Scorpio & Uranus Rising. I think this one is more stable due to Venus in Taurus. My ex had Venus in Aries. He was such a dog. Ggggrrrr.

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posted April 02, 2008 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry for taking so long to get back....

your mars squs his venus! Tension, tension!
His mars is in leo and your venus is in sag. Although there is no major aspect between the two, the signs are compatible. Although pluto is generational, it is touching his moon and this must produce some intense emotions. There doesn't seem to be anything there that is with uranus, which give the electricity, except his sun and your ura. I suppose all these aspects get activated together producing a combined effect.


His moon is in your 5th making him emotionally appealing to you and playfully so. His venus in your 7th so you want to be with him. Your amor in his 5th. Your lust in his 8th.
His pluto in your 1st (but that is a generational thing, so we really can't count it), likewise your ura on his asc. Interestingly, I'll pay your juno on his IC.

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You share two important progressed synastry aspects that are close to exact this year. A progressed Venus natal Sun trine and a progressed Sun natal Venus trine.
It's quite rare to get both as close as this at the same time. Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban had this combo two years ago. Susan Sarandon and her first husband Chris Sarandon had both aspects when they met back in the sixties, and Nelson and Winnie Mandela shared both in 1958. These types of aspect (Sun Venus trines) are so common in relationships that its not an exaggeration to say that they are the aspects which are most consistently responsible for relationships (successful and otherwise).
However, you also share three Sun Venus squares including two progressed Venus progressed Sun squares (the Sarandons had two Sun Venus square aspects as well). When trines and squares happen at the same time in relationships what tends to happen is that the harmonious music that the trines create drowns out the discord of the hard squares (which symbolise the areas of your lives and developing personalities where you have marked differences) - Trines give us rose colored glasses because they feel good. Problems can arise after the progressed trines separate leaving behind in your case a natal Sun natal Venus square, which can be very satisfying and stimulating, but is not conventionally desirable in relationships because it usually means you both have to make compromises to get along.
The reason I'm mentioning these types of connection is that it's fairly obvious to me now that progressed and natal Venus connections are the most potent connections in synastry and we should pay more attention to them than we do. Composites and natal chart synastry is very good astrology, but the evidence for progressions in relationships is compelling when compared to the evidence for some other techniques. If, for example you share very little planetary commonality (which is the case with most of your personal planet connections in your example), you might wonder why you are having a relationship. In this case, and many others, the answer lies in progressed synastry.
I hope this is helpful.

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posted April 03, 2008 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Newstar - you know your stuff! What about other transits (in progression) that somehow involve venus (apart from a sun-venus combo)?

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