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artemisss
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posted March 26, 2008 10:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After 2 years of intense passionate love, I broke up with my boyfriend, whom I have been with every single day and night. I found out that for the past 2 years, hes been having cyber-sex with dozens of women, watching them on webcam, and planed to meet up with them. This all dates back from 2006- now, so I dont know if he ever did meet up with them. In any event, why did this happen? is it something with our charts, or something going on up there? what was it, his scorpio moon? im heartbroken.

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tatyh
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posted March 26, 2008 11:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey! I have a moon in scorpio. I'm not a guy, but still, I always thought my moon in scorpio was the reason why I demand loyalty from others even if I don't deserve it. That or I cry a lot.

I would never cheat or betray someone intentionally but I admit that I am not easy to live with.

At least you found out about all this now instead of later. I thought moon in scorpios were supposed to be secretive... Hope you're recovering well from this.

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SexyScorp103
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posted March 27, 2008 12:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey could u post the charts, i can't get to them.. I'm gonna have a look and try to help you out

I'm so sorry to hear, and i agree...I think moon is Scorpio is more faithful than the type to betray

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artemisss
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posted March 27, 2008 01:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
scorpiochk thank you


here they are again

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if that doesnt work here is another link to same composite
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posted March 27, 2008 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheelsofcheese     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a horrible shock. Hugs to you.

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Jugular
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posted March 27, 2008 06:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jenn - hugs to you, and sorry for what you're going through. Just want you to know that as trite as it sounds, you will find someone else who is more on the same page with you in terms of love style and -ahem- romantic appetites. I remember being in law school, 3 months before the New York bar, and breaking up with my BF at the time, who had been seeing someone else behind my back. I was devastated, and it's a miracle I passed the bar, since I could barely pick up a Pieper review book at the time. Trust me, other guys came along within a year, and they were more suited to me.

BTW, I have a wonderful psychic in the city who might cheer you up and give you some perspective on the whole episode. Roxanne Usleman - she's got a website - you can look her up. I just got a reading from her in February and was thrilled and amazed.

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posted March 27, 2008 06:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jupitersgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Artemiss you're chart is very similar to mine I was born on November 30th,1984 and I broke up with my bf for 4,5 years last October-November. It was something unexpected. There must be some aspect affecting our charts.

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posted March 27, 2008 06:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see this as being connected with Mercury square Neptune, its in his chart and in your composite. It must be especially mystifying and painful for you since your Mercury and Neptune are conjunct and in flowing sextiles at the midpoint of your Moon and Pluto.
I note all three charts have had Saturn transiting the 7th house. I would suggest this has the meaning of a maturing relationship for you. Its growing you up and making you more in touch with realities of partnering.
Transiting Uranus in the 1st house and Neptune over the ascendant with transiting Pluto conjunct Neptune in all charts and conjunct Mercury as well in yours, (again emphasising Neptune themes going on), all indicating the heaviness and power of feelings and emotions.
Pick yourself up, give it time, catch up with old friends and do some good things for yourself while you let everything sink in. Then look forward to a better future and dont ever look back. Take with you only the best memories and learn from the rest.

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posted March 27, 2008 07:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You should always start by looking at the birth charts, and for example the condition of Moon and Venus if you want to know how someone will behave and succeed in their intimate relationships.
The guy has both the "feminine" planets poorly aspected (Venus squared by a Moon-Mars conjunction) telling that he will have problems with his relationships with women. No synastry/composite chart can fix this. In short, his needs and wants are in contradiction and he's likely to have great difficulties with commitment issues.

Here's a short interpretation of Mars square Venus (his square is super tight):
"Insecure relationships or very difficult partnerships are common. You tend to be flirtatious, and can be self-indulgent. Often people with this aspect are quite good-looking. You tend to put too high a value on the trappings of success, and sometimes not enough on inner satisfaction.
Your sexual / romantic feelings are very intense. in fact, you have to be careful that you run them instead of the other way around."
I know a few males with this aspect, and what they all have in common is that they tend to have passionate relationships, but are somewhat incapable of being loyal/are very prone to having affairs. This aspect can manifest in slightly different ways depending on the rest of the chart, but in most cases this kind of symptoms are pretty evident (and your boyfriend seems to be no exception).
This is what immediately caught my eye, I hope someone else will have time to look at other factors that may have contributed.

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posted March 27, 2008 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally I think the composite Mercury SQ Neptune is a bit wide at 10* but even so, his natal one is quite tight, and quite telling.

But there is something I'd like to point out. That's his year of birth - troublesome aspects can get easier to deal with as we get older and/or mature. Without wishing to insult male Lindalanders, plenty of men don't seem to grow up until they hit around the age of 30.

There is also the free will factor. Even with an overactive imagination as this suggests, it can be kept in check or channelled into more productive arenas of life.

p.s

My post crossed with Nightjar's but it serves as a good example of what I'm talking about as I have Venus SQ Mars on my chart ~ as I've got older has been easier to keep its energies in check and channel it into creative areas of life.

Lack of self-control is no excuse for being disrespectful to your partner. This guy didn't get it right this time, but it doesn't mean he can't do better in the future.

p.p.s

I don't know who wrote that but I can assure you I am quite plain of feature, lol.

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Happy Dragon
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posted March 27, 2008 10:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
re:
**After 2 years of intense passionate love, .. etc etc .. **

on seeing that .. my first thought was towards a Neptune transit for starters ..
'cause that's the average time span for Nept. .. 2 years ..
i've skimmed thru the posted charts .. just with nept.s movement over the past few years ..
though .. didn't make any notes .. but it looks to have effected the charts ..

this gif shows the movement of 'outers' from march 2005 'till march 2008 ..
2005 positions are shown on the Outer circle ..
2008 positions are shown on the Inner circle ..


( symbol keys for the kairon chart ..
( ~ http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jkbx/Symbols.html ~ ..

.. the next shortest t.planet is uranus at about 18 months on average ..

note the 'outers' movements as related to the astrodotcom charts ..
( compare via two browzer windows )
( http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jkbx/noting.aspects.html )
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top to bottom ..
( allowing for any mistakes due to a current mega sinus headache )

chart 1 ..
t.nept. squares natal saturn
t.uranus squares natal uranus .. sextiles natals jupiter and venus ..
t.saturn .. oppositions squares 'n trines ..

chart 2 ..
t.nept. .. conjuncts the ascendant .. squares the moon .. trined saturn ..
t.uranus .. trines mars 'n moon ..
t.saturn .. squares conjuncts and opposes .. sextiling n.merc at one point ..

chart 3 ..
t.neptune .. trines the sun and node ..
t.uranus .. squares the node ..
t.saturn .. squares opposes sextiles trines .. 'n conjoins ..
( most recent it was conjunct mars 'n square uranus ..
( and square to chiron ..

t.chiron tranverses the ascendant/descendant on all 3 ..

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posted March 27, 2008 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I just dont see how people go this long with a relationship and dont pick up on anything. I guess you just have to ask yourself what kind of person you are to fall in love with a person like that. If I dont already have the person figured out before we are dating then its within the first month. Or if there wasnt some immediate vibe that I got when I first met them. Guy sounds like a disgusting perverted wierdo. he'll get his.

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted March 27, 2008 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Artemisss,

I'm so sorry you've been hurt. I hope I can answer some of your questions which were:

1. Why did this happen?
2. Is it something with our charts, or is something going on up there?
3. What was it, his Scorpio moon?

There are a lot of things going on with your comparison with him. The break up shows up more in his chart than your chart right now. In your chart it looks as if it happened within the last few weeks.

His chart suggests a highly charged sexual profile. Although this has happened, his chart does show that he does love you and that he is excited by you, however there are some people who appear to require more sexual activity, it doesn't mean that they have to go for it, they can control it by their free will, but let me continue.

It's not just his Scorpio Moon, that's not enough to do it. He has Moon conjunct Mars and that Moon-Mars is squaring his Venus. His Leo Venus rules his 8th house of sexuality and his 3rd house of communication. This man loves to dramatically communicate about sex and has a highly charged sexual appetite with his Moon-Mars charging up Venus ruling his 8th house of sexuality. That's A LOT of sexual NEED and energy rolling around in Scorpio and ringing the bells of his 8th house.

His Sun rules his 7th house of relationships and is located in the 7th house as well. His Sun sextiles Jupiter, ruler of his 11th house of receiving love, so it appears that he is "Lucky" in the "receiving of love" department, especially in terms of cerebral, communicative and/or educated women.

Looking at both of your charts together I have lots of thoughts. He naturally has Neptune square Mercury suggesting that he can be imaginative and intuitive, but his communication can be vague, confusing, illusionary or deceptive. You also have Neptune conjunct Mercury suggesting some of the same things but also that you can be confused by many things as well. Since Mercury rules your 8th house of sexuality and the conjunction is placed in her 11th house of receiving love, there may be a confusion about receiving love, confusion about sex, and your self-worth around receiving love. Also, an over pronounced idealism and naivety about love and relationships. You may have been ignoring or simply not seeing certain things about his personality, his sexual needs or behavior, in essence - hiding these thoughts from yourself, Neptune rules "Rose Colored Glasses".

Also, your Venus squares his Saturn so that suggests some longevity but it also suggests that at some point you become afraid to love him, or serious TRUST ISSUES pop up, like the current situation.

I think the internet is getting a lot of men in trouble who used to just keep a bunch of porn magazines stashed away somewhere in a closet or a secret drawer, away from their wives or girlfriends. Many spouses seemed to be able to handle that. There was no REALITY involved, it kept the sexual fantasies as FANTASIES. With the advent of the internet, the fantasies are more real than ever because there really is a woman on the other side of that moving picture they are watching or that web camera and the seduction becomes deeper, more daring and more adventurous. In other words, those porn pictures are now talking back to the men and reacting to the men and it activates that real sexual conquest button. I want to emphasize that this doesn't just happen for men, I have a few female clients, one in particular that I worry about to the extreme because she's a sex addict who actually meets up with men she meets on these sex sites and phone numbers. But this is happening to a lot of people accelerated by the speed and accessibility the computer offers.

For example, I can look at food magazines with my favorite cakes and pastries and not run out to buy them, but if I’m in my office and someone sends out an email that there are pastries available for everyone on the 2nd floor of our building, with a picture, I might hesitate for a little while knowing that I shouldn’t be eating them, but then the thought runs through my mind that those pastries are REALLY UP THERE and if I don’t want them to run out, I better go up there and get some. Next thing you know, I’m on my way up the stairs, running at a clip, to get some leftover cake and pastries.

It’s the same with old fashioned porn in a magazine as opposed to there being a real woman moving around on a screen and she sees him and really wants to be with him (or ACTING like it). He can tell himself “No.” for a little while, but then that feeling of reality is going to kick in and he starts really considering whether he could meet her or not. It might be a man who has never had the opportunity to be with a woman who says she’s going to do all the things she say on the computer, so he take the chance. That's just one a million scenarios that it could be.

I don't want to judge you or him, even though he's been doing this. I just wanted to give you an idea of what I see in the charts and some of the things that I see in both of your profiles, and also some of my experience with clients who have gotten involved with this type of behavior.

I also wanted to ask you if you know for sure that your chart time is correct. The same for his. Whenever I see charts with exact hour times, I always ask. Mainly yours because with a huge event like this, it makes me wonder why there isn't more exact angular contact or why it looks like this happened weeks ago instead of recently. When did this happen exact? And do you know the exact time you were born down to the minute?

I hope things work out for you, it appears you may be having some good energy soon, within the next few weeks. Please take good care of yourself. If you want more info. I am available professionally.

Geocosmic Valentine
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It’s actually easier than it sounds in that paragraph for many men and women to go over that edge now. It is sad but true.


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posted March 27, 2008 05:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow, geocosmic, you are awesome! your insights are amazing..

artemiss.. i dated someone similar to you for 3 years and found out that for at least a year and a half he was cheating on me and also had tonnes of internet sex.. not just porn. it was totally devastating. i think the worst part is being decieved. lying and hiding things means the person actually did it on purpose. i was upset because i had a feeling, but he always denied it.. and i wish he had just been honest. then he could have gone about his business, and i could have been free and had my dignity (not that anyone can really take it away, but it sure can feel like it).

i agree, though, that you will get over this and find someone better. i sure learned a lot from my experience and i know now to fully trust my intuition and that i am worth a hell of a lot more than how he treated me. you will learn from this and find someone who cares deeply for you and respects you..

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posted March 27, 2008 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Better times lie ahead for you.

I am so sorry you are going through this hard time... just know that it happened for a reason, and this person obviously does not deserve you...

Take heart, sister.

Ghani

p.s. Geo,

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I think the internet is getting a lot of men in trouble who used to just keep a bunch of porn magazines stashed away somewhere in a closet or a secret drawer, away from their wives or girlfriends. Many spouses seemed to be able to handle that. There was no REALITY involved, it kept the sexual fantasies as FANTASIES. With the advent of the internet, the fantasies are more real than ever because there really is a woman on the other side of that moving picture they are watching or that web camera and the seduction becomes deeper, more daring and more adventurous. In other words, those porn pictures are now talking back to the men and reacting to the men and it activates that real sexual conquest button.

So true... and so sad, how we are destroying ourselves... Everyone should be able to control themselves, but I think the world is so big to us now, and there are just so many temptations that are no longer healthy...


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posted March 28, 2008 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with the previous posters comments on the square between your ex's moon, venus and mars. It is a biggie.

But I also looked at your chart, and you have Venus, Jupiter, and to some extent Mars in the 12th house, which means that there is a certain lack of awareness of what's really happening in your relationships.

ETA: The 12th house is the house of secrets, the house of the unconscious, the house of the undoing. I personally feel that it might be helpful to you to get some therapy, as it will help you become more aware of your love nature and your relationship patterns. Planets in the 12th house point to hidden issues that can affect how we relate to the world and to others.

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posted March 28, 2008 12:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First off, thank you everybody for your comments and support, you are all angels, and this small post, with its responses, has helped me cope with this so much. I looked at our forecasts on astro.com and for both of us it said end of March would be the end of a relationship, and s perior of searching for inner harmony and ease, until Aug, I think I mine was Neptune conjunct Jupiter. I guess it was destined to happen.

Geo- you know, you will never believe this, I have been on your myspace before, I think 3 weeks ago I did a myspace astrology search and just came across your profile, and saved it because I love that song on your page. So I would go just to hear it. So strange!

You are correct with the one week comment. About 10 days ago I found out he would be moving for residency in Philadelphia, and he wbated me to come. Obviously, as we have discussed marriage, I asked it we would get engaged before we moved. My parents are middle ewstern and they wouldn't like the idea, not that I listen to everything they suggest but this was also important to me and my values. He said he wasn't ready, and I started questioning his insecurities with our love.especially since he knew I would give up job offers at the district attorneys offcue in NYand CA and start fresh if I moved.for such a huge sacrifice, I have to know he thinks I'm the one. Which he said he didn't know. A fight ensued, then this happened. Also, my birthtime is 1114 am his he said is 7 around could be wrong.thank you everyone again,


Jugilar

Thank you so so so much for your message . I'm gonna call her today.

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posted March 28, 2008 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Artemisss,

I'm glad that you're getting some healing and relief from the insight you're getting here. I'd like to make a teaching point here for everyone who is following. The change in the time of your chart has made a significant difference in how your chart is read now.

Your chart above shows an Ascendant of 10 degrees Aquarius and a Midheaven of 27 degrees Scorpio.

I've implemented the time change that you provided. You were really born at 11:14 AM which changes your chart. Your Ascendant is really 15 degrees 16 minutes Aquarius and your real Midheaven is 1 degrees 14 minutes Sagittarius. This makes a huge difference in reading the chart. I just wanted to point that out for future reference should you have your chart read.

From this change I can see that very recently you've had intense pressures to be independant and free, not just in your relationships but in all areas of your life

The Midheaven now being a completely different sign points to a different way of reading your parents, your profession and the way you present yourself to the world. The time change has also moved your Jupiter out of the 12th house and into your 11th house. It's still hugging the 12th house, but if I had to choose, I'd prefer Jupiter in the 11th house for financial purposes (mo' money, mo' money, MO' MONEY) and for social purposes as well, lots of love, friends and wishes come true (this is all surface, I can't tell anything without having a conversation with you, but that's in general).

Let's see if I can get my techinical skills together to post the correct chart here:

Oops, I can't, my office internet isn't opening photobucket, something not working. If someone else can post the chart with the correct time of 11:14 AM, you'll also see that Pluto has moved into the 8th house instead of the 9th house. An 8th house Pluto suggests a tremendous need for intensified insight and self study through out one's life such as psychological therapy, psychiatric analysis, or metaphysical searching which is what you're into right now, as well as receiving life time coaching, which is what all of this is anyway.

Wow, Artemiss, you're coming into clearer focus for me. Why.....you're BEAUTIFUL!!!

And I'm glad you like the song on my MySpace page. But a bit of sad news is attached to that. Corinne Bailey-Ray, the singer of that song, her husband died from a drug overdose last weekend. She's only 29 and he was a talented 32 year old saxaphone player. It almost adds a deeper meaning to her song.

Geocosmic Valentine
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"Everybody is a star!"
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posted March 29, 2008 05:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From Astro.com, intresting
This is Mine


Saturn opposition Moon: An emotional trial

Beginning of September 2007 until end of May 2008: This is one of the most emotionally trying influences. It is frequently associated with domestic or professional problems, emotional depression, loneliness, difficulties with women or difficulties with personal relationships, often leading to breakups.

This influence represents an "alienation crisis," that is, a crisis brought about by the discovery that you have been neglecting your emotional and psychological needs. As a result you feel alone and disconnected from others, like an alien in the world whom no one else can ever adequately understand.

To a greater or lesser extent, everyone's life revolves around an overall task or purpose that makes one's life unique. The purpose may be a job, motherhood, fatherhood, some movement that you believe in or anything else that gives you a sense of purpose. Often an alienation crisis occurs when you discover that you have gone too far too fast in pursuit of your life purpose and have neglected your psychological and emotional needs. Perhaps you have neglected your relationships or your domestic life, or you have repressed your feelings. In this way you build up a wall between yourself and others, which makes you feel alone and alienated.

You must make your personal life and your profession or other central purpose work together. That will require changing your lifestyle so that you can pay equal attention to both.


Saturn square Sun: Patience and perseverance

Beginning of November 2007 until beginning of August 2008: This influence represents a time of critical developments. Various factors in the outside world will challenge you strongly, and it may seem difficult to maintain your freedom of action in whatever you are trying to do.

You may feel unusually discouraged at this time, because your vitality is at a low point. It may be best not to struggle too hard against any adversity that comes into your life now. Patience and perseverance will carry you through until your energy level is up again.

Authority figures, such as employers, government officials or parents, may prove difficult to deal with. You may find that they are not receptive to your plans or suggestions, that they resist your efforts. It is advisable to work patiently to bring them around to your point of view. Don't withdraw from the confrontation, but don't fight blindly. That would guarantee defeat.

This period of your life is directly linked to a time seven years ago, a time of new beginnings for you. This time now is made especially difficult by the fact that many of these projects have been going quite well, and the current difficulties seem totally unexpected.

However, this is a period of trial, which will demonstrate whether or not those new beginnings were valid. Anything invalid is likely to fall by the wayside. You will probably regard it as a failure. But you may not be aware right away that this is happening, especially if you are not paying close attention.

Your ambitions may be thwarted now, but be patient and make sure you are on the right course. If you are, this period will be a trial rather than a defeat. Even if it is a defeat, you can still accomplish a great deal by transferring your energies to more productive areas.


Pluto conjunction Neptune: Inward transformation

Beginning of January 2008 until end of October 2009: This influence signifies a period of very deep inward transformation that will be reflected in changed ideals, goals and many other aspects of your world view. You may also work harder than ever to bring about in reality an ideal that you have held for years. However, you will have to give up a great deal to accomplish this, and you will not receive much ego-reinforcement at the time, even if you are successful.

You will find it necessary to question very deeply many beliefs you have held as a matter of course all your life. You may become disoriented as you discover that you have been living under illusions. But at least you will not be alone, for this is one of the influences that affect everyone in one age group at about the same time. In fact, the need to change your ideals may come through your peer group. It would be a good idea to discuss this with someone who is much older or younger and who is not suffering the effects of this influence, in order to get a better perspective on what is happening to you. If you begin psychotherapy now, which is quite possible, you should not choose a therapist of your own age. While he or she might understand you, he cannot give you a different perspective.

Many elements of your life - relationships, job situations, places - may pass away now, but this is only a reflection of the profound changes taking place within you. After this period is over you may find it hard to recognize the person you were before.

Whatever you choose to do, it would be a good idea to study a subject that will give you greater understanding about your life. Astrology, the occult, metaphysics or even depth psychology might serve this purpose. But don't get lost in abstractions: make sure that what you learn has real consequences in your everyday life, because you have great needs there that should be met. Also your studies should give you very deep understanding. Nothing superficial would help you at this time.


Jupiter conjunction Jupiter: Wonderful opportunities

Mid February 2008 until end of October 2008: This influence indicates the beginning of a new cycle of growth and progress. However, it is often the focus of exaggerated expectations. You may expect sudden windfalls, great wealth or luck, and all kinds of wonderful opportunities. And these things do happen sometimes with this influence, but most people should expect more subtle, but equally useful effects.

Events now, such as meetings with persons or even changes in your psyche, open the way for you to become wiser and more mature and to have a broader understanding of the world. At this time you will reach out consciously and unconsciously and ask more of the world, but at the same time you are willing to give more to the world.

This influence can make you feel either more demanding or more giving toward others, but you are not likely to get much out of it if you think only of what you can get. The law of conservation of energy in the universe says that you can transform the energies in your life from one form to another, but you cannot create them out of nothing. This influence represents a time when you should see whether you are doing that in your life.

Concretely, you can expect persons who are good for you to come into your life. Or circumstances will arise that give you increased freedom or an opportunity to do something that you have never done before. Educational opportunities may come to you at this time, or a chance to travel. Sometimes this influence does in fact bring about financial advantage, but you should not sit around passively waiting for it to happen.


Jupiter conjunction Venus: Elegance and taste

Mid March 2008 until mid November 2008: This influence helps to smooth over all difficulties in your relationships, as well as to promote friendship and give you a strong desire for happy and peaceful times. You enjoy being with and talking with friends and will probably attend or hold several social gatherings during this time. You may also be the center of attention for some reason, and you will enjoy basking in the limelight.

This influence occasionally will bring a new love interest into your life. If it does, and other factors are equal, the relationship should prove to be an unusually successful one in which you both grow a great deal and in which there is an excellent balance between love and freedom. Such a relationship will be devoid of jealousy or pettiness to an unusual extent.

The same energy affects existing relationships, so that you are able to relate to loved ones with great ease. Because you are concerned with the larger issues in your relationship, you are not about to cause trouble over any problem that is not extremely important. And such a problem is not likely to surface during this time.

At this time also your taste is likely to become more elegant, and you may be tempted to buy something that is very expensive or fancy. At the worst it might even be gaudy or tasteless. In fact one of the few real dangers to watch out for under this influence is the tendency to waste or squander money or other resources. Depending upon your own state of mind, however, this influence can also bring in money and increase your resources. Whichever way it goes, it should be well under your control.

You have a strong desire to surround yourself with beauty. Sordid or ugly surroundings are much harder than usual for you to bear, so make an effort to avoid them. You are concerned with the beautiful side of life at this time, and you should do everything to expose yourself to it.


Uranus trine Saturn: Understanding limitations

Beginning of April 2008 until beginning of March 2009: At this time in your life, discipline, order and responsibility can lead you to understanding and freedom. You will learn to understand and respect your limitations and work with them so that they are no longer so limiting. Everyone has limitations, but they can be used in a positive way and actually become tools for managing your life.

Your approach to life is very methodical and thorough, but you are not satisfied with the status quo. At this time you will seek out ways to constructively create changes, taking a very definite course of action to achieve what you want. Not satisfied with abstract formulations of principles, you want to know exactly how to do something, so that you can immediately get to the task. Therefore this is an excellent time for studying any difficult but practical technique.

This is a good time for learning new ways to advance in your profession. You may appear ambitious, but you are really working carefully to expand your world and avoid undue limitations on your life. Whatever your motivation, you will win favor from your superiors, because they can see that you have balanced hard work and discipline on one hand with innovation and originality on the other. For this reason you may get a promotion of some kind now, which will bring you greater power and authority. But even if you achieve a new position, you are not likely to cease working for change within the system that you are part of. You will continue for some time, perhaps always, to work for reform and new ways of doing things, but always in the practical manner that got you there in the first place.

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Saturn conjunction Sun: Concentrating energy

Beginning of September 2007 until beginning of June 2008: This influence can bring both fulfillment and difficulty. Roughly fourteen years ago you went through a period of adversity and low vitality. But at the same time you made new beginnings, which are having results now. These efforts will either reach a climax and be successful, or you will realize that they have failed. In any case this is a time of tremendous responsibility and hard work, either to guarantee the successful conclusion of your old projects and endeavors or to salvage the best from the failures.

In those areas of your life that you have handled successfully - in your job, your domestic life, or whatever - the responsibility of bringing your activities to a successful climax will limit your freedom of movement. Even if you know that events are turning out as you want, you may feel restless under the burdens. Try to be patient and concentrate wholly upon the tasks at hand.

Do not take on any new projects at this time that are not directly connected to what you are already doing. The additional responsibility could be too much for you and could cause health problems, especially with your heart and circulatory system. When you have successfully completed all your current projects, you may start new ones. This is a time of perseverance, hard work and heavy responsibility.

Those areas of your life that have not worked out as expected should not be regarded as complete failures. Several years ago when you embarked on these projects, you may not have understood as much as you understand now. This influence will make you aware of this fact. Don't start out on a new course until you have cleared up whatever has not worked out.

During this time you may feel cut off from others and lonely, but do not be too concerned about this. Even if this influence coincides with the breaking up of a relationship, which it may, it means that the relationship itself is distracting you from matters that you must attend to now. This is a time for concentrating energy, not scattering it.


Saturn square MC: An evaluation of goals

Mid October 2007 until end of July 2008: This is a challenging time in your life. You will have to make many choices about what areas of your life to emphasize. Will you work to build up a new career or continue to build upon a current one? Will you work to make your personal life as satisfying as possible? Will you work collectively with many other people or by yourself?

Often there is an "alienation crisis" with this influence, a sudden feeling of being cut off from everyone else, as if you have spent too much energy pursuing purely personal goals. This in turn generates loneliness and a feeling of being distant from others, even loved ones. Or you may suddenly feel that you no longer have the strength to go on in the direction you have chosen. Fears of your own inadequacies may distort your perspective. All of this is most likely to happen if you have neglected personal relationships in your life. You cannot go on forever without supportive emotional relationships, and you may have been trying to do so.

Sometimes this influence can have the opposite result, and you discover that various personal entanglements have been interfering with the pursuit of your valid goals. In this case you will break off relationships and gain the freedom to go your own way. The issue here is the balance between personal relationships and advancement in life.

On another tack, this period can test your choice of goals. You may encounter opposition from others that forces you to examine whether your goals are really valid for you. If they are, the conflict with other persons or against trying circumstances will be useful. But if you find that your heart is not really in the path you have chosen, you may have to make adjustments and change your course of action. It is far better to do this now than several years from now, when you may be overcommitted to an inappropriate course and discover that you are trapped. Now is the time to change. It may not be pleasant, but it is possible.


Pluto trine Sun: On your behalf

Beginning of February 2008 until beginning of December 2009: At this time in your life you have a strong sense of having survived heavy challenges in the past and of having reached a level where you can be effective. And indeed you can if you make an effort. This influence can bring you rewards on a silver platter, even if you insist on being totally passive, but it is far better to work positively with the energies that are operating on your behalf. You are able to express yourself more powerfully and completely to others now than at almost any other time. Others see you as a powerful and effective individual, and they respect you for it.

Obviously this is a good time for personal advancement. You may be given power in an organization, in business or in government to help bring about reforms and changes in the system. Yet you will be seen not as a revolutionary but as someone who can get things done. Your relationships with people in power over you is likely to be excellent, and your advancement may result at least partly from their favor.

On the more personal level, this influence can bring positive change into your life that does not disrupt, but allows you to evolve and grow. You can gain tremendous insights into yourself at this time and make successful efforts to change if you want to. Your physical body is in good condition under these influences and unusually able to throw off illness and heal itself. You should take advantage of your increased physical vigor and involve yourself in some form of physical education, such as conventional body- building exercises or a discipline like yoga. Yoga is particularly good for you because it involves the mind and spirit as well as the body. You should not compartmentalize yourself into two units - mind and body - because now you can see your essential unity and can make good use of that insight.


Jupiter sextile Moon: Warmth and generosity

End of February 2008 until end of October 2008: This influence makes you feel quite good, optimistic and positive about life in general. You have strong feelings of warmth and generosity toward others, particularly friends and those whom you encounter on a day-to-day basis. You feel that you would like to protect and care for everyone you meet.

You will derive uncommonly deep experiences from what appear to be ordinary, routine interactions with others. Your everyday surroundings, your family and relatives will provide satisfactions that may be missing at other times. And these encounters will provide opportunities to grow and to enlarge your life. The usually confined limits of daily routine can actually become the vehicle for new chances and opportunities.

Cultivate your friendships, for there is a good chance that a friend will be able to perform a valuable service for you at this time. And it is just as likely that you will do the same for a friend. In either case you will come out ahead. Friendships or other relationships with women quite often prove rewarding at this time, with various benefits. You could have an emotional experience that enriches you, or a business opportunity, or she could act as a guide to aspects of yourself that you do not normally experience, but which help you come to complete self-understanding.

On occasion this influence signifies that you are in the public eye or that you have to deal with large groups of people in some way. In either case, you should be successful.


Jupiter square Saturn: Something is wrong

Mid March 2008 until mid November 2008: During this time you will make many adjustments in your life, separating yourself from persons or circumstances that are doing you no good. You will change many standards of behavior and morality that you realize are inappropriate and generally realign your conception of duty and responsibility more in accordance with reality. In the process you may experience a considerable amount of tension, and for a time you may be confused, not quite knowing whether to go backward or forward, to expand or cut back.

Probably you would be well advised to go off by yourself for a while, because other people's advice will be of little value, unless you select your advisors with great care. The challenge here is to increase and go forward in some areas but to cut back in others. You will not be able to keep everything going, no matter how much you want to. Unfortunately there is no way of telling in advance which areas of your life will be affected.

Under this influence there is often a strong feeling of restlessness and uncertainty. You know clearly that something is wrong, but you are not sure what it is. The best way to deal with this is not to be in a hurry. Usually you will have all the time you need to make a decision based on careful observation of the facts, so don't rush.

In business and professional matters, this is a critical time, but not necessarily a bad one. It simply means that whatever you do now will have a more important effect than usual on the future. It is possible that you will change jobs during this time, because a new offer gives you more opportunities to get ahead than your old job. In that case, take it, because such changes are often beneficial with this influence. In general you should take any opportunity that comes along now to broaden your scope and release yourself from limitations that have held you back. The trick is to do this in a way that is not destructively disruptive.


Neptune sextile Neptune: Positive reforms

End of March 2008 until end of January 2010: This is a time of new awakening to a sense of what your life is about. Before this time you have been working to establish your sense of who you are in the community of adults, and by now you probably have a pretty clear idea about that. But you may also have discovered that what you are doing with your life is not entirely appropriate. You may conclude that in the past you were motivated by too narrow a conception of what you are, by a need for security, or simply by petty ego-drives. Now you will begin to see your life in terms of a larger perspective. You should do whatever is necessary to make sure that you can live according to this new understanding.

This influence does not arouse your sense of idealism particularly, but it does make you see that the universe is a very large place, and you are a much larger part of it than you have realized.

You may be attracted to rather mystical ideas, but they will have meaning only according to how they affect your everyday world. At this time you don't need more abstractions to chase around - you need to make positive reforms in your life. And you will do so!

This influence will cause you to cut away your past and reorient your life in accordance with the larger vision you have now. The many changes that occur may seem somewhat scary, but they are ultimately for the best. You will find new freedom in a new consciousness.

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venusdeindia
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posted March 31, 2008 10:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
give him a slap from me, then turn around walk away and move on. u deserve much better than this mess.
i dont care what men say about porn but it does have detrimental psychological undertones. porn shows women as a piece of flesh to be done. no emotions, no love hell the actors might as well be pigs .it definitely does destroy love becoz of its sublime messages no matter what men say about it being just for fun.dont buy his excuses.

this problem is way beyond astrology.

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posted March 31, 2008 10:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Artemiss

May l ask how you found out about his seedy side?

Did he tell you or was it through a friend or by looking at his emails?

Sorry to pry but l think it's important.

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i pryed. he was acting suspicious, so i mointered the keystrokes on my laptop,
which recorded his passwords...and i looked
i never looked..but he gave me reason to!


[i know its not nice...but its what i do for a living! criminal investigator]

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also,

i have been doing much better.

i had a dream 2 nights ago that i was swimming with my deceased grandfather in the ocean, who was visiting from heaven.

he told me we would take a little break and swim in the ocean together, then he told me he had to leave. we had alot of fun.

my grandmother told me he came to cleanse me of my pain during this time. and offer hope.

any ideas about this?

thank you very much

artemiss

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posted March 31, 2008 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course you did! I'm not a criminal investigator, but I did the same thing... Don't try to mess with an Aqua girl on a mission... she will find out what you are hiding.

I am so sorry this happened to you. I just went through the exact same thing yesterday... and I was suspicious.. and now I know. I wish I didn't... But I just want to know, WHY? You know? I'm sure your situation was similar... and you're just asking why? They are attentive to you, you are their girlfriend, the one they spend a lot of time with and go to the grocery store with, and fall asleep to a movie... and then this??? It makes no sense! It takes away your confidence and self worth...

My heart truly goes out to you. Vent to me, I understand....

Ghani

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When betrayed, it's natural to wonder if the love and bond you experienced was ever really there. That doubt could do a number on your confidence and ability to trust your instincts. I obviously don't know him, but I think often when someone behaves in a hurtful way like your boyfriend did, it doesn't mean that there wasn't really love between you two. It's just that some people aren't able (yet or ever) to love someone well. (And looking at their charts will show you where their issues are.) But that inability doesn't mean that he didn't love you as much as he could, being who he is right now. Now you can let him go b/c you deserve so much more than what he can offer you, and I truly believe that the more aware and clear we are about what we need from a partner, the more likely we'll receive that. The ones offering less won't appeal to us.

Take care and I'm glad you're already feeling a little better.

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